jamesn Wrote: that guy I agree that ..."the outcome was never in doubt"...
No one changed anyones mind, and that was never in doubt. All those on Nye's side think they won. All on Ham's side think they won.
Just exactly like all the bandwidth that is wasted on this DemocraticHub stating their religious views. And the bandwidth that is wasted on this DemocraticHub stating that their religious views are wrong.
No one changed their views because of this debate, just as no one changes their views because of the debates on this so-called political forum.
People believe what they WANT to believe.
My observation of the extreme right of religious groups, including Christians, is not so much what they WANT to believe but what they are TOLD to believe as in indoctrination. This 'teaching' starts at very early ages and is obvious, intentional and subliminal. Children wouldn't dare challenge their elders mostly because they don't have the developed intellect to debate, and I'm not saying they are unintelligent.
The problem with the debate was on one side logical argument by Bill Nye versus deeply held faith by Ken Ham. I did notice that when Ken Ham got flustered looking for an answer he went to the self belief routine of saying that when one sees their god and the joy and warmth etc they will realise the existence of the only true God. The response seemed programmed not dissimilar to Tom Cruise' Scientology rants.
In supporting the argument of science of creation, I admit to being an atheist. But the debate wasn't about anti-religion. If it were then what would be fair would be for atheist groups to enter each church, mosque, synagog on their holy day and stand in the congregation and challenge the religions beliefs. Sounds radical but no less radical than hearing the US GOP rant this unchallenged tripe on television daily or having people knock on my door almost daily selling
their religion, because religion is an industry.
I wonder if it is unconstitutional to have In God We Trust on the US currency ? Yep I'm a goddamned Aussie and from the home state/city of Ken Ham.