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  • Mar 30, 2020 11:57 PM
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    TJ Wrote: I agree the elections are a concern. A major move to allow and insist on voting by mail is necessary. I worry about corruption derailing that is far more likely. The word of the day is Landslide.

    On this, I agree. We should be far more worried about a free and fair election come November than having martial law declared.

    Republicans can very easily use this crisis to steal not only the Presidential election, but numerous House, Senate, and state house elections to boot. I can see a number of scenarios playing out across the country where Republican governors move to make voting all but impossible and then move to use emergency powers to basically award their states electoral college votes to Donald. That's why we have to start preparing for the worst-case scenario now.

    The answer is simple - nationwide vote-by-mail. Unfortunately, Republicans would never allow that because they know they'd lose in a landslide if it were that easy to vote.

  • Mar 30, 2020 11:57 PM
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    It's a pretty big leap going from a private company choosing what to allow on their privately owned platform to suggesting the next logical step is martial law.

    As I've pointed out before, we don't have nearly enough active duty and reserve soldiers to impose martial law on a national scale. We'd devolve into anarchy overnight if Donald tried such a crazy thing.

    History also shows us that societies stay largely intact during periods of pandemic and plague. It's difficult to start a revolution when no one knows who is and isn't sick. Can you also imagine how silly people would look standing six feet apart as they attempt to overrun the White House?

    If anything, plagues have done the opposite and helped to quell bubbling revolutions throughout world history.

  • Jan 26, 2020 12:43 AM
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    Here are flu numbers for this season:

    Overall, the CDC estimates 29 million people have gotten sick, 280,000 have been hospitalized and 16,000 have died.

    So why are we letting Trump destroy the country over a tiny number of Covid-cases to hide his tanking economy ???

    This is very, very dangerous thinking.

    The season flu death rate is 0.1% while the Covid-19 death rate is anywhere between 1 and 2.9%. That may not seem like a big difference, but it is massive.

    Secondly, the seasonal flu has a virus transmission/reproduction rate (R0/R-nought) of 1.3. That means every person who has the flu is expected to transmit it to 1.3 people. Covid-19 has an R0 value between 2 and 3. And unlike the seasonal flu, there is no vaccine or (currently known and accepted) treatments for Covid-19.

    Social distancing isn't meant to be the cure all. It is meant to prevent hospitals from being overrun with patients at the same time. Hospitals aren't equipped to care for 10% of a city's population all at once. Hell, they aren't equipped to care for 2% of a city's population all at once. Social distancing and "flattening the curve" helps prevent that from happening.

    If Donald insists on easing social distancing restrictions too early then he will have the blood of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of American citizens on his hands.

  • Mar 18, 2020 01:17 PM
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    TJ Wrote: Were are absolutely all in this together. We need to join forces and combine efforts.

    My hope of all hopes is that Bernie sees the writing on the wall, bows out, and throws his full and unconditional support behind Biden. He may have to drag his die-hard Bernie or bust army kicking and screaming with him, but they will follow his lead. If he is genuine in his support of Biden then his supporters will follow. If he isn't then they won't. It's as simple as that.

    Hell - he can even frame it in doing what's best for the country. He gracefully bows out and lines up behind Biden because he doesn't want to worsen the pandemic that's beginning to sweep across our nation. He will stay in D.C. and work tirelessly to help everyday Americans grapple with this crisis while Biden shores up support, unites the party, and takes Donald on with one voice.

    It's anyone's guess if Bernie will go that route, but I sure hope he does.

  • Mar 17, 2020 09:56 AM
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    Schmidt Wrote: However, one more point to ponder. What if the Covid-19 virus comes back in a big way in the fall. Could Trump use his emergency powers to put off the November 3rd general election like the Ohio Secretary of State just did for Ohio?

    Just saying...

    Lord help us if he tries to do that.

    Now is the time for every single state to pass a vote-by-mail law, even if it is used as a backstop in case of emergency. I honestly don't know if Congress has the authority to pass one and it would undoubtedly be held up in the courts if they did, but every state can pass a law requiring vote-by-mail today. They should do it now.

  • Mar 18, 2020 01:17 PM
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    Sorry, Bernie supporters. Democratic voters have spoken and he's just not who the Democrats want to take on Trump in 2020. They have spoken with one voice and overwhelmingly so. It's over. Vice President Biden is going to be the nominee. Now, will you stand with us to help throw Donald out of office?

    What you do next will determine the trajectory of our country for the next generation or more. If you pout and sit out the 2020 election then Donald Trump will stay President and continue to be in charge during these very uncertain times of pandemic, market turmoil, and almost certain major economic recession on the horizon.

    If you come to terms with Bernie's loss and accept that the future of our country is more important than one man who excites you then Trump will be a one-term President and an actual adult would be able to guide us through these difficult times.

    Things are about to get very bad in our country. Things are about to get very tough. Many people are going to die in the coming days, weeks, and months. Many of these deaths will have been preventable if we had an adult in the room who cared more about his country than he did "his numbers." But we don't and we will continue to have this President through January 20, 2021 at the earliest.

    My only hope is that Bernie supporters unite with us hated and loathsome moderates and cast Donald away once and for all. If we don't then God help us all.

  • Mar 04, 2013 03:21 PM
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    I've long forgotten about this thread, but it's interesting how prescient it is.

    Justice Roberts is not a centrist or an umpire calling balls and strikes. He's a far-right jurist who has worked with his other far-right justices to reshape American law for decades or more. Just imagine how different things could have been had Bernie or busters not overruled the will of the American people in 2016. We'd be living in a different world (and would trust our government more during this time of crisis.)

    The 2020 election will determine the trajectory of our country for the next 50 plus years. I wish I was being hyperbolic, but I'm not. If the Democrats are able to unite then Donald will lose and we will be able to prevent Donald from stacking the Supreme Court with a 7-2 majority. If we don't then the Supreme Court will be in Republican hands for a generation or more.

  • Mar 09, 2020 09:19 AM
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    I agree. This crisis, more than anything before, shows what happens when an incompetent President is at the helm during an international emergency.

    We need sober, steady leadership and instead we have a narcissistic sociopath who only cares about himself. The scary thing is that shit is getting real and thousands, if not millions, of lives are at risk. And all Donald can think about is his next trip to play golf at Mar-a-Lago.

  • Mar 09, 2020 09:19 AM
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    I'm not arguing that everything is peaches and cream. It's quite to the contrary.

    All I am saying is that we have to have two consecutive quarters of negative GDP before officially being in recession. The layoffs, selloffs, and every other "off" you can think of will certainly be going on throughout that time and technical definitions don't really matter much to people who have lost their jobs, but we won't be officially in recession for a number of months at the earliest.

    Basically, people need to start preparing for the worst now because it certainly looks like we're heading in that direction. And fast.

  • Mar 09, 2020 09:19 AM
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    We're not in recession...yet. We haven't had one quarter of economic decline, let alone two.

    With that said, it's not a stretch to think we might be barreling towards one in the very near future. How bad it winds up being is anyone's guess, but I'd be shocked if it even comes close to the 2008 financial crisis.