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  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    @Schmidt

    No. Simply pointed out the flaws and fallacies of your argument.

  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    It says that traditional Medicare benefits would be expanded in the fourth year. Not that the transition would only take 4 years. So you lied.
  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    @ Schmidt
    It pains me to infight with a fellow blue, but that comes off as saying, in other words, you’re lying about the 12-year transition period by saying it's 4 years. You're claiming it's "not economically feasible" while providing no numbers to that effect. Where on the Pro Medicare-For-All side have the examples of literally every country in the world except the U.S., Honduras & North Korea. The Sanders plan simply wants to take the best aspects of the nearly 80 years of thriving systems around the world and importing them here to America. Nothing personal, but that comes off as why you're running away. Because you've been exposed as a purveyor of false information. I suspect you knew this was false & misleading. It makes you a liar instead of simply mistaken.

  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    @Schmidt

    The Sanders Medicare-For-All plan doesn't outlaw private insurance. It doesn't have to include outside private companies. With this, you're engaging in dishonest debate tactics and cherry picking.

    Your argument falls apart immediately. The creation of unemployment benefits didn't stop private supplemental insurance like Aflac from existing. From your own words we can all see that your narrative is irrational. Address these holes in your argument instead of deflecting or engaging in logical fallacies.

  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    Your reluctance to defend Sanders disappoints me. Senator Bernie Sanders isn't trying to eliminate private healthcare insurance. His plan is to expand Medicare and fund a public option through taxes. Just like Canada has. Which you just praised. Americans already pay hundreds of Billions a year for ineffective corporate health care coverage. A tax-funded system would cost less than allowing predatory corporations who don't work in a free market to continue in a defacto monopoly. Americans need their coverage to be effective, portable and affordable.
  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    You both disappoint me. Though retreading it, it can be argued that it’s weird how there wasn't 1 citation in that meme. Even that senate.gov reference doesn’t provide anything directly. In other words....it’s nothing in the way of an explanation. At best it's his “goals”. Essentially this’s hyperbole and comes off suggesting that he can pass off someone else's personal opinions as objective truths. Reminds me a lot of what religious people do.
  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    669
    Anyone?
  • Jan 14, 2020 12:53 PM
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    669

    If this is wrong, please explain to me how so I can hit back with your better educated response(s)...

    “Bernie’s Destroy-America plan add 43 million to the debt by the end of 2030:

    •Spending: $30 Million Med-for-all; 16.3 trillion Green New Deal; 2 trillion Free College Tuition; 10 trillion for pace we are already on = 60 TRILLION DEFICIT SPENDING
    •Taxes added to cover it: 2 trillion on Wall Street trading tax; 4 trillion payroll tax; 3.5 trillion income tax (+4% per person); 4.2 trillion from ending health cost deduction; 3.6 trillion higher tax rates on the rich; 1 trillion addt’l business taxes [source sanders.senate.gov - options-to-finance-medicare-for-all] = 18 TRILLION ADDT’L tax revenues (and only if the economy remains very good, otherwise tax revenues will drop.

    2030 Debt = 66 trillion
    (42 under Bernie + 24 projected by the end of 2020)

    Debt as a % of 31 Trillion GDP will be 213%.
    Greece collapsed at 179% (2009); Mexico at 148% (1982).”

  • Jan 14, 2020 12:40 AM
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    Is Washington post even that reliable with their ownership under Jeff Bezos?
  • Jan 14, 2020 12:40 AM
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    But doesn’t that only deflect the scandal on Trump with whataboutism? How does that defend Snopes?