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  • Nov 15, 2016 09:10 AM
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    The country is divided, but not in half. about 300 million wanted a President and 59 million wanted a Trump, well they didn't really want Trump either, they wanted a real candidate, but their party failed to have any values what so ever which allowed Trump to take it over.

    I have to say that even though they did not win, I was the proudest I have ever been to be a Democrat this year especially during the convention. To be honest, the best thing that could happen would be for Trump to kill Obama Care stone cold dead. One it should have been a single payer system, but more importantly most of the people using it voted for Trump. I love the irony of that. If he keeps his campaign promise (and all the other Republicans' promise) they will kill it and lose everything. Even if they replace it with their own it will suck so bad, they would be better off just killing it..think the state of dental insurance and you have an idea of Ryan's plan. Either way they lose, the midterms, then next Presidential election and then we can actually do what we should have done in the first place which a single payer system with full negotiating power.

  • Nov 17, 2016 09:42 AM
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    mbernardi Wrote:

    I've started a petition directed at the leadership of the DNC calling for the immediate elimination of Superdelegates.

    In my opinion, one of the reasons we lost the 2016 election is because the DNC leadership were completely tone-deaf. To put it bluntly, they were so loyal to the Clinton machine that they ignored a groundswell of Americans begging for change and instead offered them the status quo.

    The 2020 election is too important to risk having a candidate handpicked by party elders. The only thing that should matter are ideas and votes.

    Please sign this petition and let's make sure our voices are heard loud and clear:

    https://www.change.o...-superdelegates

    First, I want to hear what is the change you are looking for? Change for change sake is just insanity. Besides, I have been listening to a bunch of Republicans crying to me that they would have given their eye teeth for Super Delegates. Most do not feel like they won anything in this election except a crap sandwich. Honestly, I don't care either way, but I would like to know what I really get for not having them. What keeps us from having a someone equally as insane running in our party? Do you think it can't happen? Not all outsiders are nice little grandpa guys trying to give you free college. Though I do have to admit, I wish they were. But, there are Leftist Authoritarians just like Authoritarians on the right. I do have to say, its kind of hard to tell which one Trump is, but neither is good. What exactly are you selling here?
  • Nov 03, 2016 03:11 AM
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    Every part of the media tried to warn you. Even Fox news (god even Fox news people, Megan Kelley was blinking SOS). Died in the wool, hard core Republicans warned you. A sitting President warned you. Other countries' leaders warned you. You knew what he was, you didn't need to be told. You (America) have no one to blame, but yourselves. It would be one thing if it was a party line vote that got him in office, but it wasn't. Then at least you could say well all the Republicans vote and all the Democrats voted and we just lost, but that is not what happened is it. There is no way that Trump won Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan without Democratic votes going to Trump or staying home. So don't blame the media. We may get to another choice. You will either fight to uphold the Constitution (all of it) or you won't, there will be no middle ground.
  • Oct 31, 2016 10:17 PM
    Last: 3yr
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    Comey was under no pressure of anything. Everyone could have walked out no one could have done anything to him. There was no reopening of anything. His appointment was put in place to purposely not have any pressure. It would have taken the President and Congress to remove him. The letter was all he needed and nothing else. He did what he did willingly and for no other reason than to sway the election. He is a Republican so he had motive. He obviously had the means and opportunity. That alone is enough for any grand jury to indict. He will be the first indication of whether or not we are operating in a brand new autocracy. If they leave him in the position he is in or elevate him, it means they are scared of him which means someone in a leadership position was in on it with him. If they get rid of him quietly, he was just an idiot who swayed an election. If they put him on trial, it will be a sign that they want to make an example of him which is what should happen.
  • Nov 09, 2016 10:30 PM
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    This is just crazy. There is no right to vote unless there is a right not to vote. This is just a fact; you cannot have one without the other.

  • Mar 10, 2016 05:57 AM
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    Do we really think trade deals are the reason "people" don't manufacture things anymore. Folks, we are on the verge of not having humans build anything. I get that it makes us feel warm and fuzzy to think that the government might have some form of control over this, but the reality is that those jobs went the way of the horse and buggy. Coal jobs went away with Drill-baby-drill. When you get free propane when you pay to drill for oil, guess what no one is going to buy coal. Those jobs are gone until we burn through 500 years of cheap propane being fracked out of the ground. Its always interesting to watch Republicans talk about how the government can't help businesses..that the market controls it, but the moment the market destroys a sector somehow the government is omnipotent and has destroyed it. Some how the government is so messed up, they can't fund the VA correctly, but are somehow organized enough to take out and entire commodity. Our education system is really messed up.
  • Nov 14, 2016 12:53 PM
    Last: 3yr
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    Dutch Wrote:
    TJ Wrote: I agree, Trump is horrible. Pence is far worse. With Trump gone though, Pence is a rogue action from gone as well. I am not suggesting any rogue actions but in this new time where hate and guns are encouraged by the right wing..... You just never know what might happen. Sometimes things just don't make sense and then the situation turns in unexpected ways.
    As I said, which no one on this site takes this seriously; he owns 27 companies outside the US. Sorry concentrate on that; a Pence Presidency is still "crystal ball" looking at that. Let's nail Trump first and then Pence. I bet 100% that Trump will screw up because of his business. The point is who in "god's name" ( I don't believe) is going to say stop this f.... idiot. Who is the authority to do that? I've got the strong feeling that he has not any "forces" or sound regulations against him to stop him. ( Where is his tax report?) His appointments show clearly what direction this guy moves; Thus America do something about it and nail him as well Pence. Amen. Sure I have to abide to plenty of laws; he does not; neither there is someone? who says enough of this total B.S. and says it is impossible to have an President who runs his own business all over the world and have kids who also want an say in the Presidential affairs as well have their own business and his; as well elect an "advisor' who is an "hater" or "discriminator/racist". Enough is enough!! Wake up "ISLAND" called America.
    The only people who have any authority to take action against a President is Congress. The only way they are really going to do anything is if he puts Obama on the team.
  • Nov 14, 2016 12:53 PM
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    Dutch Wrote: I read all of the arguments; however my feeling is Trump will fall flat on his face way before that governing decisions are being made, because of his own business and the appointments he made. The Dem's have to be keen on catching him on unlawful practices (right now already) and nail him , then impeach him. So who is going to watch the "hen" house and catch him in the act. That should be the main priority of the Dem's.
    I share that belief. There is even a possibility he gets impeached by the Republicans who would prefer Mike Pence. I am not holding out a lot of hope for that; they have not shown that they actually hold any real values, but we will see.
  • Nov 14, 2016 12:53 PM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Keith Hays Wrote: If Republican senators are 100% on our side then yes, but if not then no. The compromise thing will not work in this case. First Democrats suck at it. We lost this election in no small measure because we created a market based system when every Democrat wanted single payer with price negotiation. Obama Care is a 40% (really more like 10%) of what we wanted. Is it in anyway useful to anyone now. No, no, no. We will not compromise any more.

    Well then you are going to be even more angry than you are now when moderate Republicans are forced to side with the more radical forces in their party.

    There are many ways we can make it difficult for Trump to ram his legislation through. We can filibuster legislation on a whole host of issues, but that isn't going to work when McConnell moves to eliminate the filibuster for Supreme Court Justices. That's when Democrats are going to have to figure out a way to peel away three Republicans and convince them to vote against that. Democrats will have a far better hand to play if they are willing to negotiate with some moderate Republicans in the Senate.

    I get your anger, but now is not the time to stop thinking rationally. Don't let your perfect be the enemy of the good.

    Lets play this from the fully cynical and political way of thinking. I don't care what McConnell does. I fully expect that he will do exactly what you say regardless of what we do. I expect that Trump will do exactly all of the things he said he was going to do while he was campaigning(and not what he is saying at the moment)...also regardless of what we do. We can be complicit in that or not. The results of all of Trumps actions will be an unmitigated disaster for him, the country...and especially the very people who voted for him. McConnell will have lifted the filibuster and its possible that Roe will be overturned. Which all sounds really horrible (and it will be) which it will be until the next election at which time Trump will not be reelected(or if its 8 years he will be gone), the Republican party will be synonymous with Trump-ism. Roe will not be there to motivate the remaining true conservatives to the polls. By this time, this backlash from the overreach will be I expect on a level that is unimaginable. Anyone who was complicity with the thing they will do will fall with them. Whomever remains standing on the battlefield will have the chance to truly bring the country together and actually help those in need which will most certainly be great by that time. So, no I am not angry at least not in sort of unstable way that you intended it, but there is someone who is at the head of a party that will make every attempt to tear apart the fabric of this country for his own purposes and we need to make anyone who would do that pay for there actions both legally when it is over and politically for the next 50 to 60 years.
  • Nov 14, 2016 12:53 PM
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Keith Hays Wrote: That is not going to work. You get no brownie points for being nice. The big picture is that this guy is going to take a lot of peoples rights away and he going to try to make it look like he doing you some favors to get it. He won't be. This is not a time for Democrats to rollover and take it, that ship sailed and sank. The Republicans held the entire government hostage for 6 years. They block an elected president from doing his constitutional duty of appointing a supreme court justice. We are outside the norms now. Whatever can be done to block him needs to be done at all levels.

    There are areas where we absolutely have to stand firm and refuse to negotiate and others where we will have to work with moderate Senators on the other side of the aisle to thwart or rewrite legislation that would be more favorable to the left.

    The House will try to shove their far-right legislation down our throats, but it is imperative for Democratic Senators to try to persuade a handful of Senators on the right side of the aisle to be a check on the legislative process. Refusing to work with potentially moderate Senators who, by the way didn't even vote for Trump, out of spite will only push them to fall in line with the far right.

    We have to work with the system we have and I'd much rather get 40 percent of something I want over zero percent.

    If Republican senators are 100% on our side then yes, but if not then no. The compromise thing will not work in this case. First Democrats suck at it. We lost this election in no small measure because we created a market based system when every Democrat wanted single payer with price negotiation. Obama Care is a 40% (really more like 10%) of what we wanted. Is it in anyway useful to anyone now. No, no, no. We will not compromise any more.