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  • Apr 05, 2016 06:35 PM
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    New York Times on Bernie, after the Daily News. NYT seems to think he might know something or other:

    nytimes.com/2016/04/07/upshot/yes-berni...

  • Apr 05, 2016 06:35 PM
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    Schmidt Wrote:

    I go to Hillary Clinton's website and find that I can dig deep into her proposals. I wish Bernie Sanders provided more substantive discussions of his proposals in his multiple websites. That's a big difference between the two candidates. What's the word choice...transparency versus obfuscation? I am struggling to understand.

    I can read Clinton's website til I'm blue in the face and I will still believe what I am reading is mainly scripted bullshit.
  • Apr 04, 2016 07:18 AM
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    Thanks guys - I was being a bit annoying I realize. lol
  • Apr 04, 2016 07:18 AM
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote:

    I listened to some of FDR's speeches and that is not what FDR proposed. Bernie is running the campaign necessary. Many of today's problems are similar to 1932.

    Please at least provide links to support your claims. Sheesh...what are we doing here, watching cartoons?
  • Apr 04, 2016 07:18 AM
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    pr Wrote: Very interesting Chet! It just goes to show the platform and the candidate are separate entity's and don't always have the same values or goals. I would say this is painfully obvious in the Republican Party today and showing the ugly side of both parties.
    What pr? You didn't even him ask him about the details. You've reached a conclusion without any evidence.
  • Apr 05, 2016 06:35 PM
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    Reading it now. Need to read it a second time tomorrow. It certainly isn't scripted that's for sure.
  • Apr 03, 2016 12:39 AM
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    Dutch Wrote:
    The same here; she's way too much an Washington insider and sits on a high horse; a typical "lawyer" type.

    If she is elected, then the same Washington "clan" will surround her as well the rich will get it their way.

    Eh, let's see what comes out of the Panama papers.
  • Apr 05, 2016 12:45 AM
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    Dutch Wrote:
    Schmidt; Yes a nice clip and pictures. I look at a bit different, because it only reflects what was done in this country. It would be nice to have a similar "clip" of what we did "outside" this country. Like our in-human behavior in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq. Afghanistan, Somalia, Sudan, Mali, Yemen, Libya, Cuba, Haiti, Columbia etc. etc. There are some nice pictures of Vietnam kids doused with napalm; some nice pictures of Abu Graib prison treatment etc. Sure lets learn to behave at home, maybe then we also could learn to behave outside this "island".
    Hey Dutch - your taking this speech completely out of the context of this man's life. This is one person speaking who went through an enormous transformation in his life, after his brother's assasination. What you hear on this recording is the result of that. Only Vietnam would be pertinent to a discussion about the speech. We could get into a discussion about that, but it would have to be a serious discussion citing historic details and so forth. It's too important not to allot these things proper consideration.
  • Apr 05, 2016 12:45 AM
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    Thanks for posting that Schmidt. Astonishing level of leadership we had 50-60 years ago -- before we were robbed of it.
  • Apr 03, 2016 12:39 AM
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    Mcsweet -- Like Hillary Clinton in her youth identified as a Goldwater Republican, I was a Democrat because my parents were Democrats. My Dad was a miner and union activist in Butte, Montana. At 12 years old I was kicked out of bars for distributing union literature for my Dad. He felt that the local Mine Mill union had become corrupt and therefore wanted them replaced with the Steelworkers union. Times were good and pay was good while he was working. But during the frequent strikes not so good. During some of those very long strikes, my parents had to ask for handouts from the welfare agency...powdered milk and powdered eggs because we couldn't afford even those basic essentials. I still remember to this day the taste of the powdered milk. It had a distinct taste and wouldn't mix well with water. We never owned a blender.

    Schmidt thanks for the amazing story. What I'd take away from that is that your loyalty to the Democratic party, originated in Montana, in that time and place and the hardships you faced. Respect. So did mine -- I was maybe 11 years old when Martin Luther King and Robert F. Kennedy were shot down -- and that period of time is forever imprinted not only on my mind, but on my soul: because those were soul-stirring times. Who could ever forget RFK's last train ride through Appalachia, with poor white southerners standing along either side of the railroad tracks -- as far as the eye could see -- waving to the train. I haven't seen that type of faith in a leader since then, until Bernie showed up.


    I understand that party platforms and party structure is necessary for the functioning of a national organization -- afterall I'm not 18. That said, what many of us loved about the party (MLK, RFK, Eugene McCarthy, the list goes on) disappeared after the floundering of the party in the 80's and the demolition of the party in the 90s.
    I respect the work you do -- I just think you are doing it too cheap.