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US troops staying in Afghanistan even after the end of 2014

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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Today a bomb exploded near the site where the 300 called up country representatives are going to meet to decide on the Kerry request to keep American troops beyond the end of 2014 in Afghanistan.
    My big question is: we have occupied this country now for more than 12 years at what cost? Why keep dragging this out? Get the hell out of this country; it does not belong to the US!! Stop this nonsense; terrorists will only then choose other countries to operate from if the US stays there; so then we sent some more troops and "drones" to other places as well, like Somalia. Yemen, Mali, Syria etc.; so that will keep us busy until we have military all over the globe; may be there are terrorists on the southpole so better sent a bunch of military pot smokers to fight the penguins.
    Sorry this government and the Pentagon are brainless.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    How else is the military going to get to test their new theories on how to fight terrorists with their new expensive toys? The most workable theory that has worked so far, is for you put a bullet in them before they put a bullet in you, you really don't need all the other bells or whistles, unless of course you're looking for an advantage. And that seems to be the primary motive for these vast sums of money being spent on military hardware that hopefully never gets used.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: How else is the military going to get to test their new theories on how to fight terrorists with their new expensive toys? The most workable theory that has worked so far, is for you put a bullet in them before they put a bullet in you, you really don't need all the other bells or whistles, unless of course you're looking for an advantage. And that seems to be the primary motive for these vast sums of money being spent on military hardware that hopefully never gets used.
    I guess I must be stupid! I guess I know why they (the Pentagon & Washington) want to stay there; it is of course the "white stuff" trade, which is lucrative for certain "takers" ; why kill the golden cow?
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    The U.S, I believe gets most of it's "white stuff" from Mexico and South America, with some from China. The European market gets most of their drugs from that region in the Middle East
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Dutch you are right on this one. When President Obama took office nearly 5 years ago I thought he would have gotten us out of Afghanistan. Instead he sent even more troops over there. WHY?

    What good has come of that? What benefit has come to the US or the rest of the world, or even to Afghanistan itself? No one has given me a good reason why we should be there wasting billions, and killing more on all sides, tearing apart families, making more and more disabled veterans who will need to be supported for the rest of their lives. It has been a total waste of people, and money, and time.
  • Democrat
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    I still can't understand our mission there other than to kill terrorist's, the people don't respect us or even want us there, our guys and gals mostl certainly want to come home and all the while it seems that what we are doing is nothing more than making more terrorist's. Is there a defined mission ? anyone, anyone ?Bueheller? anyone ?
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: I still can't understand our mission there other than to kill terrorist's, the people don't respect us or even want us there, our guys and gals mostl certainly want to come home and all the while it seems that what we are doing is nothing more than making more terrorist's. Is there a defined mission ? anyone, anyone ?Bueheller? anyone ?
    The problem lies within the Washington culture; for instance an Obama figure never worked at a real job which produced something. As a lawyer you never learn what makes an industry work. As an engineer you learn on how to start at "A" and end at "Z" ; once the product is finalized, you test it before it hits the market. Obama never learned this type of thinking; neither the rest of Washington. It is the politics, which drive everything, not learned common sense. So in such case nothing constructive can be achieved, also because the lobbyists want things their way.
    Therefore as I said many times before this country has become unmanageable due to the above. The Afghanistan war is purely run by the war lobby and the powerful Pentagon; which institutions and the war industry together runs its own show and purely dictates the President what to do, as their puppet.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Today on Bloomberg; the extension of staying in Afghanistan was explained by the government that that was needed to extend the aid to that country.
    Wow, I read in the past that a huge portion of that aid ends up in the pocket of Karzai, so my impression is that he negotiated an even better deal for himself. Love this government, better than the Salvation Army, is n't it?
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Personally I believe it was because Obama realized if he brought all those troops home he would have to find jobs for them here! After all, the military is the employer of last resort for many young people in this great land;(
  • Liberal
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    You can take all the drugs in the world, sell them, place the money in one big pile....... That pile is nothing to what the "arms trade" would generate.
  • Liberal
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    We have no choice but to stay. We've pissed that region off for decades. I don't know what you guys think. They want us dead at all cost and they're patient. This is for keeps,,,,,, they'll never stop.... GAME ON
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: We have no choice but to stay. We've pissed that region off for decades. I don't know what you guys think. They want us dead at all cost and they're patient. This is for keeps,,,,,, they'll never stop.... GAME ON
    Are you amazed that they want us dead? What would you do if someone invades this country; while you have no clue as why you are invaded; kill your chickens, rape your wife and burn your house, steal your resourses etc. Just because they do not like your religion?
  • Liberal
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    But, but, but I thought a God blessed America? Isn't a God always on our side?
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Dutch you make a good point and NO I'm not amazed that they want us dead.

    What I am amazed by is that President Obama doesn't understand this. He's smart enough that he should understand this but now they are talking about how many will stay beyond 2014. We were going to be all out by end of 2014, remember?

    Question: Is there ANYTHING that this administration will not lie about? Answer: No.

    Our occupation will NEVER end as long as President Obama is office. And maybe beyond that.
  • Liberal
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    Why do you believe any administration won't/doesn't lie to us? This is about politics, not truth or reality. Actually I think Obama is a lousy politician because he tells the truth too much! Now Bush #2 and Clinton, those are some real good politicians!

    The troops are never going to home till we can find new jobs fir them. It has nothing to do withAfghanistan