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Veterans Day, For Our Troops and World Peace

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  • Center Left
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    Today is Veteran's Day, 11/11/13. Humble reminder that this day was initially about commemorating the day of the WWI call for cease fire. It has since been turned into a day to appreciate our troops here at home. I don't have a problem with either one. I believe we should have a day for both, honestly. (We do have Memorial Day as well, to remember our country's fallen troops) But, I would like to remind everyone that Veteran's Day is as much about world peace as it is about the members of our armed forces.

    Brief history of Veterans Day:

  • Liberal
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    sbfriedman Wrote: Today is Veteran's Day, 11/11/13. Humble reminder that this day was initially about commemorating the day of the WWI call for cease fire. It has since been turned into a day to appreciate our troops here at home. I don't have a problem with either one. I believe we should have a day for both, honestly. (We do have Memorial Day as well, to remember our country's fallen troops) But, I would like to remind everyone that Veteran's Day is as much about world peace as it is about the members of our armed forces.

    Brief history of Veterans Day:

    I joined the Navy during peace time. I'm not a veteran. A veteran fought and sacrificed. I got a free tour around the globe. That's a veteran
  • Liberal
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    So true!

    that fact that someone was in the military doesn't automatically make them any better than any other citizen, in fact, a good case can, should and has been made that those who protest the military are far better Americans and citizen than those who supposedly "serve". The truth is most military people only "serve" themselves. They are looking for a free education, can't find a job, trying to escape a dull boring life or maybe are just violent types who enjoy conflict.

    of course, most vets are going to think they are better than everyone else, heroes, good citizens, etc because who wants to admit you were used by the government for cannon fodder? No one I know is man enough to admit they were duped!

    If you signed up good for you, you did a job and got paid for it, the country owes you nada. If you were drafted, I have a little sympathy for you but only a little.

    No one wants to hear the truth about the military but it's time people started thinking for themselfs instead of listening to the crap slogans the military loves to throw out to the naive youth about "needing a few good men" ""become a leader", "serve your country", etc, etc. All smoke and mirrors, nothing more!
  • Democrat
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    To all that have served their country in uniform..............Thank You for Your Service to America.

    My first stint in college was embarrassing, thus I immediately ran to the recruiter knowing full well that a draft notice was on it's way to my address. So, I joined the US Navy and took a battery of tests that rated me high. I was a dumb kid thinking that the Seals were for me and started taking training, however, I was not a serious Seal, thus I was told a career in advanced electronics was the future for me. This dumb kid just fell into a pleasant military career. My friends, who I think about regularly, did not fair as well. All though most of us went to Vietnam, I was one of the lucky ones with not having to be in the jungle. I was fortunate to be at a distance to the horror of war. There was times where a threat was imminent at sea, but it was handled swiftly terminating the danger. Several of my friends had lost much of their self in Vietnam. A lost leg from a land mine, a lost mind from experiencing hell on earth, agent orange, and of course death, which took many. I think of my High School friends and the times we had and I also think of the hundreds of friends I met along the way in the military. We all served and it was a job, but it was a job that historically has it's roots in people fighting each other to eliminate oppression, evil, and greed of corrupt politics. Our religions, freedoms, family values are always threatened by someone who wants to dominate our life. If it wasn't for our fighting men and women that place their lives on the line for us, our life today may be very different than what it is currently. America does have problems, but it would be a lot worse if Hitler and Japan had carved up our country and the world for their own personal agenda's. If your a minority, I believe that you would have no class other than slavery in the world. War's are not fought fairly, but of course what is fair? War is hell.

    When my thoughts wander over my military service and I remember all my friends, I never stop remembering my travel through San Francisco International Airport getting a bus to Travis AFB to board the big PANAM to the Vietnam War. I passed a group of Hari Krishna dancing and singing. Out from the group came a young lady (good looking) and me being a sailor I could only wish I had more time to share with her. This young lady came up to me and spit on my uniform. The reason I think of this young lady is that now that time has changed and she may have become married later in life and had children. If those children of hers volunteered in the military and went to the Gulf War, Afganistan, Beirut, or any conflict around the world, I wonder if she remembers spitting on my uniform. Probably not. I know it was different times, but people are so crazy when it comes to showing respect and honor to those that serve in the military. I wonder if these people would have threats upon their person at their personal residence would they spit on the uniform of the policemen coming to their aid? We came, we served and we did our job, so Thank You for the opportunity to serve and along the way we get a great education and skills to live on.
  • Democrat
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    I went right from high school to the service, my idea of a jungle was three trees grouped together in a park, I quickly found our what a jungles was , I remember that after the first group of guys I shipped out with were replaced with FNG's, because they became casualites, you learned not to like nor dislike the FNG's , so that when they got dinged and someone ask who was hit, you just say The Effing NG, it made it somewhat easier for you to accept the news without getting all emotional, it was a trying time that was made worse when you went home, or as we said back to world, when everyone hated you ,or so it seemed, and nobody gave a damn about those who weren't coming home, or worse could not be found to be shipped back in a box, I am so proud for having served and prouder still of these guys and girls who served now and I am glad that when they do come back ,they are welcomed and for the most part appreciated for their service. To all who served and those who wait for their return , Thank you, and I do appreciate their service, perhaps someday there will come a time when veterans who don't experience the nastiness of combat will be the norm. I'm 68 and I still remember, and I visit our local WALL and drink a beer (Millers) to my friends.
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    pr Wrote: So true!

    that fact that someone was in the military doesn't automatically make them any better than any other citizen, in fact, a good case can, should and has been made that those who protest the military are far better Americans and citizen than those who supposedly "serve". The truth is most military people only "serve" themselves. They are looking for a free education, can't find a job, trying to escape a dull boring life or maybe are just violent types who enjoy conflict.

    of course, most vets are going to think they are better than everyone else, heroes, good citizens, etc because who wants to admit you were used by the government for cannon fodder? No one I know is man enough to admit they were duped!

    If you signed up good for you, you did a job and got paid for it, the country owes you nada. If you were drafted, I have a little sympathy for you but only a little.

    No one wants to hear the truth about the military but it's time people started thinking for themselfs instead of listening to the crap slogans the military loves to throw out to the naive youth about "needing a few good men" ""become a leader", "serve your country", etc, etc. All smoke and mirrors, nothing more!
    Yes PGR you are correct; the point is peopole have to view the military as any job; I guess you will never become a hero when you have an office job; so the military praise is totally overdone. Then the other point is that since WWII our leaders sent our troops to invade countries who never harmed the US, which means that I do not consider military people hero's if they just kill just because our leaders say so. They are then nothing more than trained robots. I have respect for all the Veterans who fought in WWII, however in all the conflicts thereafter it has cost us thousands of military lives for nothing; people who join the military should know where they get themselves into and should have learned from it I guess not!
  • Liberal
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    All I can say Dutch is "Amen & hallelujah"
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    All I can add is "If you love your freedom, thank a vet!"

    Like most everything else, the military is good for some and not good for others.

    It is 100% voluntary, no one HAS to do it.
  • Democrat
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    I read that several of you mention the characterization of "Hero". You have a wrong view of the "Hero". If you join the military for the purpose of being a hero, you will quickly learn that is not what serving your country is about. All the countries in the world that have military service as an elective provide the opportunities for all that join to learn, travel, and get paid while performing your job. Although, you are often expected to serve your country with distinction, honor and express the services you were trained for in combat. Honor to God and your country is repeated regularly and the military is not only a job, it is a privilege to serve and protect the country you hold allegiance to and yes, there are hero's. Whenever you see a veteran receive a medal of distinction, "Hero" is thought of who this person has accomplished as an act of heroism. However, often you will hear from the award recipient that, "I'm not a hero." , the other guys or servicemen in his/her group are the hero's. "Hero", is a badge of ill respect for those that have received the award. They do not want to be recognized as hero, but rather, "I tried my best to save my fellow soldiers and show duty and respect for my country.".

    Personally, I am not a hero, but I believe that all military that have served and are now currently serving they are all "Hero's" in my description and belief. Again, I thank all veterans and service men/women currently serving our country "Thank you for your Service to our country." Two months ago, I had the honor of visiting my wife's Uncle in London. He was born and raised in Jamaica as a British citizen. He joined the US Armed Forces based in Jamaica during World War II. He had a job as a telegrapher on a US base in Sandy Gulley, northeast of Kingston. The family vacated Jamaica because of the civil strife during those days and he went to Great Briton, where he quickly joined the RAF and had a distinguished service career engaged with the British and American forces fighting against Hitler's war with the world. He was in a retirement home to live out his days in whatever comfort may bring. As I departed from his home. I grabbed his hand and said, Thank you for your service to "our" countries". Tears came to his eyes, and I knew he understood the honor.

    It is easy to see the difference between those that understand and those that don't in honoring a veteran. Those that don't, just have no idea what it means to serve their fellow man and provide themselves as duty to God and country. It's a Honor and Privilege to serve. God bless the Veteran.
  • Liberal
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:

    It is easy to see the difference between those that understand and those that don't in honoring a veteran. Those that don't, just have no idea what it means to serve their fellow man and provide themselves as duty to God and country. It's a Honor and Privilege to serve. God bless the Veteran.
    No, you are the one who has no idea! Joining the military has nothing to do with being a hero, good citizen or serve anyone or thing other than the military complex.

    These are contrived designations made to support the military's needs and goals - spend more, thump your chest like a big, bad bully and plunder other countries natural resources.

    Any "enemies" the USA has today are thanks to years of bulling, plundering and not minding our own business. Why do you think we are so hated by the Arabs/Muslims? Because we (the British actually) divided their tribal lands up and made unnatural countries then we stole as much of their oil as we could, set up petty dictatorship that were only fronts for our government, told them what to believe, how to live, text, etc, I could go on and on but you get the point.

    You can make a case for heroes up to WW 2 but any conflict since then has been to exploit others for power and wealth.

    Don't tell me about heroes - if we would mind our own business, take care of our own people and only use the military for our own real protection then you could make a case for heroes but that's NOT what we do. If you join the military you enable this behavior and you are as guilty as anyone of the results.

    True heroes today fight the military, not join it.
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    pr Wrote:
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote:

    It is easy to see the difference between those that understand and those that don't in honoring a veteran. Those that don't, just have no idea what it means to serve their fellow man and provide themselves as duty to God and country. It's a Honor and Privilege to serve. God bless the Veteran.
    No, you are the one who has no idea! Joining the military has nothing to do with being a hero, good citizen or serve anyone or thing other than the military complex.

    These are contrived designations made to support the military's needs and goals - spend more, thump your chest like a big, bad bully and plunder other countries natural resources.

    Any "enemies" the USA has today are thanks to years of bulling, plundering and not minding our own business. Why do you think we are so hated by the Arabs/Muslims? Because we (the British actually) divided their tribal lands up and made unnatural countries then we stole as much of their oil as we could, set up petty dictatorship that were only fronts for our government, told them what to believe, how to live, text, etc, I could go on and on but you get the point.

    You can make a case for heroes up to WW 2 but any conflict since then has been to exploit others for power and wealth.

    Don't tell me about heroes - if we would mind our own business, take care of our own people and only use the military for our own real protection then you could make a case for heroes but that's NOT what we do. If you join the military you enable this behavior and you are as guilty as anyone of the results.

    True heroes today fight the military, not join it.
    I JUST WANTED TO GET HIGH IN JAPAN
  • Liberal
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    Case closed!
  • Democrat
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    Truly sick of mind, soul and spirit. There's nothing that can be accomplished with those that are anti-military, who doesn't know what freedom is all about and worth fighting for. Apparently all anti-military knows is anarchy and chaos. Our Armed Forces, Police, Fire Fighters, EMT's and the good Samaritans will all stand vigilant against oppression and evil in this world even at the expense of the anti-force of ignorance and disbelief berating our service. We all stand Free so that you can try to give us your best shot.
  • Liberal
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: Truly sick of mind, soul and spirit. There's nothing that can be accomplished with those that are anti-military, who doesn't know what freedom is all about and worth fighting for. Apparently all anti-military knows is anarchy and chaos. Our Armed Forces, Police, Fire Fighters, EMT's and the good Samaritans will all stand vigilant against oppression and evil in this world even at the expense of the anti-force of ignorance and disbelief berating our service. We all stand Free so that you can try to give us your best shot.
    Like I said.... I served........but not to fight communism. I was an FT (Fire control technician) I joined to see the worls and all those wonderful foreign prostitutes. Am I veteran???
  • Democrat
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    I worked with someone who did 2 tours in Nam, and never saw the country, he was aboard a ship in the China Sea both times, my father was a 3rd mate and he had to bring the supplies to Diego Garcia and then escort the shuttles to Danang or some other port city and never saw a NVA or let alone a VC, never fired a shot or even heard one fired ,unless it was gunning practice, is he vet? of course he was, and he was honored as such as was the guy I worked with, you don't have to be shot at to be a Veteran. There were only two individuals who died for mankind, Jesus died for your soul and a soldier died for your freedom . If you can read this ,thank a teacher, if your a teacher, thank a soldier for fighting for your freedom to teach.