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Senate Passes Historic LGBT Nondiscrimination Bill

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The US Senate has passed a historic anti-discrimination bill that will forbid LGBT discrimination in the work place. The vote was 64-32 with ten Republicans and all Democrats voting aye. ENDA forbids workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity and is a huge step forward as we dig ourselves out of the rampant discrimination we submit our gay and lesbian citizens through.

    While Speaker Boehner and the House Leadership has already shot down any hope of passing this piece of legislation in the near future, it is time that we as a people stand up and demand that they mark up this legislation. The Republicans can only use their homophobic and hate mongering tactics for so long before the tides of change force it upon them. It will be on us to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.

    What does everyone think of today's historic vote? And what do you think it will take for the Tea Party Republicans in the House to bring it up for a vote?
  • Liberal
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    When the South & Texas secede from the union, taking all the Fundi, so called Christians,with them Bohener may allow a vote!
  • Democrat
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    I think it's voter pandering, we have Discrimination Laws on the books already, what they have done is to make specific laws for a certain segment of our society as if they were special and were not covered by existing law, the current Law did cover them as they were and still are considered human beings, not just American citizens, the problem, I feel, arose is when certain members of society felt that those who committed crimes against the gay community should be punished harsher, thereby making the new Law discriminating.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: I think it's voter pandering, we have Discrimination Laws on the books already, what they have done is to make specific laws for a certain segment of our society as if they were special and were not covered by existing law, the current Law did cover them as they were and still are considered human beings, not just American citizens, the problem, I feel, arose is when certain members of society felt that those who committed crimes against the gay community should be punished harsher, thereby making the new Law discriminating.
    Just to clarify any misconceptions:

    Employment Non-Discrimination Act

    "Qualified, hardworking Americans are denied job opportunities, fired or otherwise discriminated against just because they are lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT). There is no federal law that consistently protects LGBT individuals from employment discrimination; there are no state laws in 29 states that explicitly prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation, and in 33 states that do so based on gender identity. As a result, LGBT people face serious discrimination in employment, including being fired, being denied a promotion and experiencing harassment on the job.

    "The Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) would provide basic protections against workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity. ENDA simply affords to all Americans basic employment protection from discrimination based on irrational prejudice. The bill is closely modeled on existing civil rights laws, including Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Americans with Disabilities Act. The bill explicitly prohibits preferential treatment and quotas and does not permit disparate impact suits. In addition, it exempts small businesses, religious organizations and the military."


    If you have any doubts or concerns of how the law would be applied if approved, you can read more at the above link. ENDA extends fair employment practices -- not special rights -- to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. But the hard fact is that employment discrimination based sexual orientation is practiced today by many businesses and religious institutions. If the law is ever enacted, however, businesses with fewer than 15 employees and religious organizations (many of those good Christian churches) would continue to be allowed to discriminate.
  • Democrat
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    Help me here , why would you need Laws specific to the LGBT community when there are discrimination laws already on the books, there are laws that enhance the punishment if proven it was a hate crime, on another note ,does this new legislation void the old laws in regards to the LGBT? or does it allow the justice system to overcharge the defendants at booking time?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: Help me here , why would you need Laws specific to the LGBT community when there are discrimination laws already on the books, there are laws that enhance the punishment if proven it was a hate crime, on another note ,does this new legislation void the old laws in regards to the LGBT? or does it allow the justice system to overcharge the defendants at booking time?
    Johnnycee --

    You didn't read my last post...29 states DO NOT HAVE protections against LGBT discrimination by employers...and the LGBT community is being discriminated against today in those states. That's why WE need a federal law.

    The Center for American Progress addressed the need in 2011:

    Gay and Transgender People Face High Rates of Workplace Discrimination and Harassment

    "Gay and transgender individuals continue to face widespread discrimination in the workplace.* Studies show that anywhere from 15 percent to 43 percent of gay people have experienced some form of discrimination and harassment at the workplace. Moreover, a staggering 90 percent of transgender workers report some form of harassment or mistreatment on the job. These workplace abuses pose a real and immediate threat to the economic security of gay and transgender workers.

    "Congress should work quickly to pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, or ENDA, to ensure that all Americans are judged in the workplace based on their skills, qualifications, and the quality of their work. Right now, too many of our country’s gay and transgender workers are being judged on their sexual orientation and gender identity— factors that have no impact on how well a person performs their job.

    "Straight coworkers also attest to the presence of discrimination and harassment against LGBT workers. The Williams Institute’s report found that 12 percent to 30 percent of straight workers witnessed discrimination in the workforce based on sexual orientation.

    "Controlled experiments have found consistent evidence of workplace discrimination as well. When researchers send two sets of matched resumes to major employers, and one indicates the applicant is gay, employers warmly receive “gay” resumes far less often than “straight” resumes. Seven out of eight of these studies confirmed the existence of antigay employment discrimination."


    I don't know what laws you are citing. The Matthew Shepard Crime Prevention Act is about crimes...murder, physical abuse, etc. and doesn't address discrimination in the work place. That's what EDNA does.

    All I'm doing is citing factual data. You can choose to disregard or not believe the data, but that doesn't change the facts.
  • Democrat
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    Are you suggesting that workplace discrimination is not covered by the 14th Amendment, which disallows any discrimination on any citizen, if there are certain companies that do this type of discrimination either overtly or covertly are they now immune to prosecution, here in Pa. we have a hate crime statute that enhances the penalties for all crimes that are committed based on the gender, color, Religious afflilation of the victim, also included is culture, so what you are saying is that if I deny someone a job because I felt he/she didn't answer my questions correctly or I thought they might not work out, and the applicant decides that I denied them because they were gay, I am now going to have to defend myself in a Court of Law and explain my reasons for not hiring them, and if the Court upholds my reasons, can I now sue the complaint for filing a criminal complaint against me based on his or her feelings and speculations for costs related to my case? The Federal laws are usually made to include every citizen and not a specific individual or group, the States then narrow down the requirements to suit their States own Constitution, but if the Federal Government makes a Law gender, race specific is that not discrimination.
  • Liberal
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    JUST SAY IT......they passed a law to protect a bunch of cross dressing, confused, biological mistakes of nature (genetic misfits)

    INDOCTRINATION......Tomorrow we all may have to wear skinny jeans
  • Liberal
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    Can I borrow your tweezers,,,,,,I have to pluck my eyebrows for this job interview
  • Democrat
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    LA:

    You have some serious anger issues, which causes you to stoop down to name calling as a answer. Don't bother to reply.
  • Liberal
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    I WILL REPLY: No anger at all. I find your answers amusing. Your attempts at seeming in the middle of these issues only confirm my beliefs. Tell the truth. It's okay. I realize you want to look as if you weigh out these topics with wisdom and great thought. You're Caucasian and in your sixties. You're a former police officer. I doubt you were a hippie...... Statistically you're a republican. I got to play the odds with this because you contradict yourself in most of your posts.
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    johnnycee Wrote: LA:

    You have some serious anger issues, which causes you to stoop down to name calling as a answer. Don't bother to reply.
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    The hate crime that enhances sentences stems from Apprendi V. New jersey (shot down) 6th amendment due process issue. The complaint must be found by jury, plead to, or charged in the indictment....Enhancements cannot be given by a judge based on his opinion especially if uncharged.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: The US Senate has passed a historic anti-discrimination bill that will forbid LGBT discrimination in the work place. The vote was 64-32 with ten Republicans and all Democrats voting aye. ENDA forbids workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity and is a huge step forward as we dig ourselves out of the rampant discrimination we submit our gay and lesbian citizens through.

    While Speaker Boehner and the House Leadership has already shot down any hope of passing this piece of legislation in the near future, it is time that we as a people stand up and demand that they mark up this legislation. The Republicans can only use their homophobic and hate mongering tactics for so long before the tides of change force it upon them. It will be on us to make sure that happens sooner rather than later.

    What does everyone think of today's historic vote? And what do you think it will take for the Tea Party Republicans in the House to bring it up for a vote?
    There is laws of non discrimination an there are values that go with the non discrimination all are intitled to a job an have to be American citizens, all qualify or they would not of applied, an if someone says they want a job then they get it. Now the committment needs to be there and have to be willing to work that job for the rest of your life. an what one does in their bedrooms is not to be noticable in the public for work because it is outside of the job description
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    What I don't get is why pass a specific law just for LGBT? Oh, I agree that there is discrimination against them and it needs to end, but why pass a new law? Why not simply expand the current laws?
  • Liberal
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    Simply because without specific, definitive language those against it will just make up their own definition and fight for their right to defend their definition, sorta like the Second Amendment - a very poorly written piece of legislation that says whatever the person interpreting it wants it to say. The Bible is another perfect example - give it to ten people and you will have ten different beliefs all supported by "their" own interpretation and all totally convinced that their interpretation is the only one and true one.