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  • Democrat
    Kentucky
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    The TEA party is about being taxed too much. Why did they impose a several Billion dolar tax on all Americans with the government shut down. I think
    that this was the work of mental migits to get attention. Why should all Americans have to pay the shut down TAX? It was not up for any vote for the
    Americans that have had to pay for something that benifited nobody.

    I would like to see the TEA party leaders explain why all Americans have to pay the shut down tax, if they hold on to "Taxed Enough Already". This
    action by the TEA party not only hurt America ona world stage, national stage and local stage. We need to get the leaders on the record in a national
    forum to show how the shut down tax benefited no one and cost all Americans.

    The leaders in Washington need to be responsible to America.
  • Democrat
    Montgomery, AL
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    The Tea Party has nothing to do with taxation and everything to do with racism.

    According to its web page, "Tea Party Patriots," the Tea Party movement was "spontaneously formed in 2009 from the reaction of the American people to fiscally irresponsible actions of the federal government. . ." Among the Tea Party's "Core Principles" are fiscal responsibilty and Constitutionally limited government. Apparently, racism is not of the "core principals" that the Tea Party wants to publicize. It is an undeniable fact, however, that Dale Robertson is very much a racist. An Internet search using the words, "Dale," "Robertson," "Tea Party," and "Niggah," will yield innumerable photographs of Robertson holding a card-board that states, in its entirety, "Congress = Slave Owner Taxpayer = Niggah." On one web site, Robertson explained that the sign was merely an "expression." Robertson did not explain what it was an "expression" of. On yet another web page, Robertson claimed that the photograph was a "fake." Robertson accepts responsibility for the consequences of his conduct about as well as Rand Paul, another Tea Party hero.

    As far as I can remember, the only thing of any significance that happened around the time that Dale Robertson founded the Tea Party was the fact
    that the United States elected a Black man President. If government spending was your real concern, where the hell were you when George Bush was President? Bush led the United States into Iraq based on his spurious claim that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. When Congress refused to pass a resolution that specifically authorized our troops to invade Iraq, Bush invoked section 3 of the Joint Resolution Authorizing the Use of Force on Iraq, which was passed on October 11, 2002 (if you can produce a copy of any resolution passed by Congress immediately before the Iraqi war that specifically authorized the U.S. to invade Iraq, I will eat it, when and where you choose). The war in Iraq, that George W. Bush caused, began in March of 2003, did not end until 2011, and resulted in the deaths of 4,700 U.S. and Allied soldiers. The U.S. is still not certain as to how much money the war with Iraq cost.

    And how much have U.S. taxpayers paid to Dick Cheney's "suck buddies" KBR Construction, Halliburton and Blackwater USA for work these people never performed? Are you really so stupid to think that we aren't still footing this bill?

    The war in Afghanistan began even earlier, on October 7 , 2001, also during the Bush Administration. That war may have well been provoked by the Taliban. Although America continues to have soldiers die in Afghanistan, that war allegedly ended this year. Thus, when Barack Obama took office in January of 2009, his Administration was faced with paying for two very lengthy and expensive wars--one of which Obama had nothing to do with. And we've only just begun to realize the true cost of these wars.

    And what about Sarah Palin, the Tea Bagger's Darling, "Ms. Family Values." The Wasilla, Alaska budget for FY 2000 (this is available over the Internet, on .pdf, if you'd care to look at it) and the paper trail tha she left while she was mayor of Wasilla paint a totally different picture of Sarah Palin and her real values. Perhaps it would surprise you to learn tht in FY this bastion of fiscal responsibility, while serving as mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, made drastic cuts to the Wasilla FY 2000 budget, and that Palin used, among other things, $3,579.00 of this money to lease a white Chevy SUV, for the exclusive use of Wasilla's mayor, who happened, of course, to be Palin. Gee; and I thought that most working men and women had to provide their own transportation to and from their workplaces. Palin also used more than $25,000.00 to make improvements to the little-used Wasilla airport. Wasilla residents usually use the Ted Stevens International Airport that is located in Anchorage. Sarah Palin was pretty much the only one to frequently use the Wasilla airport, which she used almost exclusively for campaign appearances. Finally, Palin diverted about $30,000.00 of this money to Wasilla's legal defense, because of two (2) wrongful-termination suits that had been filed against Wasilla due to Palin's termination of Wasilla city employees.

    Sarah Palin was elected Governor of Alaska in 2002. While serving as Governor of Alaska, Palin attempted to have her former brother-in-law fired as a state trooper, the chief investigator of an Alaska legislative panel concluded in 2008. Investigator Stephen Branchflower, in a report to a bipartisan panel that looked into the matter, found Palin in violation of a state ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain.

    You, Sir, are a cypher: a person or thing of no value or importance; a nonentity. You represent all that is really wrong with this country: you appear to have a total absence of any real values. The United States has finally recognized what the Tea Party really is and it no longer has any influence with the voters. This was recently demonstrated in both Virginia and Alabama.

    Two weeks ago, Ken Cucinelli, a darling of the Tea Party, lost Virginia's gubernatorial election, and despite Cuccinelli's last minute attempt to not only have 38,000 names stricken from Virginia's voter rolls, but also to manipulate the counting of ballots, even as they were being counted (In true Tea Party form, Cuccinelli refused to step down from his position as Virginia's Attorney General during the pendency of his gubernatorial campaign--the first Virginian ever to do so). Then, as Virginia's Attorney General, he tried to influence the way in which precincts counted votes that were cast in his race, as well as the Lieutenant Governor's race (the Republican candidate was also a Tea Bagger). The voters elected Democrats to both positions. Exit polls underatken in the Governor's race revealed that voters cast their ballots as much, or more, against the Tea Party as they did for Terry McAuliffe.

    Bloomberg Business, Financial and Economic News interviewed a man named Lee Killen immediately after he exited his polling booth. Bloomberg made the following observation from Mr. Killen's interview:

    "In the closing days of his losing campaign for Virginia’s governorship, Republican Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli called the contest a referendum on Obamacare. Virginia voter Lee Killen saw it instead as a referendum on the Tea Party -- and he voted no.

    "Killen, a Republican-turned-independent from Fairfax, cast his ballot for Terry McCauliffe less to endorse the Democrat than to lodge a protest against the small-government movement he said has hijacked his former party.

    “I don’t particularly like McAuliffe, but I went with him basically because I disagree with the Tea Party approach to life -- no compromise, no middle ground,” Killen, 70, a retired software engineer, said in an interview just after casting his vote yesterday. “Cuccinelli has been a Tea Party leader from the very beginning, and those values are not my values.”

    "It’s that dynamic as much as any other that tipped the balance in Virginia against Republicans, carrying McAuliffe, 56, the former national party chairman and fundraiser, to victory."

    The Bloomberg article also addressed Alabama's Congressional election between Bradley Byrne, who had the support of the business community, and Dean Young, whose primary support came from the Tea Party, in the Republican primary for a special U.S. House election for an "open" seat. With all precincts reporting, Byrne won the election, drawing 52% of all voters, and Young garnering 48%.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    reversal --

    I know many white people that claim to NOT be racists, yet by their actions, they really are. It's called covert racism. From Wikipedia:

    "Covert racism is a form of racial discrimination that is disguised and subtle, rather than public or obvious. Concealed in the fabric of society, covert racism discriminates against individuals through often unnoticeable or seemingly passive methods. Covert, racially-biased decisions are often hidden or rationalized with an explanation that society is more willing to accept. These racial biases cause a variety of problems that work to empower the suppressors while diminishing the rights and powers of the oppressed. Covert racism often works subliminally, and often much of the discrimination is being done subconsciously."

    In reading articles by psychologists, 98 percent of what we think and do is done subconsciously. Many of our actions to a person or event are reflexive...rather than reflective...requiring thought. Those reflexive traits were learned during ones childhood, and are very difficult to undo...or unlearn. Therefore, a person growing up in a home or neighborhood where racism is a part of their daily lives, it is difficult to put those feelings aside. Many in the Tea Party, despite what they say, cannot hide those feelings towards President Obama. Being from Montgomery, Alabama you are much more cognizant of that "hard to hide" animosity than I am.

    It's not only racial. Somehow they also have a hatred towards the homeless as depicted by them kicking a homeless man in one of their Tea Party rallies. All of these biases are acquired and learned. They were not born that way.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    How can someone avoid being called a racist if they disliked a black person for what he/she did, irrespective of their color?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    johnnycee Wrote: How can someone avoid being called a racist if they disliked a black person for what he/she did, irrespective of their color?
    johnnnycee --

    You make a good point, and sometimes it is hard to tell. One can disagree and be respectful, but for many in the Tea Party and other Republicans, their contempt for Obama is hard to disguise...all the references to Hitler...the double standards...the pettiness...the vitriol...the birthers' claims...and more. Their media sources like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are full of racial innuendos. And the good Christian Congressman from my district, Doug Lamborn, cannot even get himself to attend the "tar baby's" State of the Union speech. He is acting out his true feelings...covert racism.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dallas, TX
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    On my facebook page, I engaged in a debate with Karl Denninger over payroll tax cuts. Karl Denninger is thought to have originated the Tea party movement's practice of sending tea bags to politicians immediately following Obama's election, and is considered a Tea Party founder.

    Anyways, he's against tax cuts.

    Yes, the founder of the "Taxed Enough Already" movement is against tax cuts.

    So there's no real "Tea" party movement. If anything, and because they don't understand how the monetary system works, they want to overtax the private sector into bankruptcy.

    So I just call them accidental anti-capitalists or accidental socialists.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Schmidt Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: How can someone avoid being called a racist if they disliked a black person for what he/she did, irrespective of their color?
    johnnnycee --

    You make a good point, and sometimes it is hard to tell. One can disagree and be respectful, but for many in the Tea Party and other Republicans, their contempt for Obama is hard to disguise...all the references to Hitler...the double standards...the pettiness...the vitriol...the birthers' claims...and more. Their media sources like Fox News and Rush Limbaugh are full of racial innuendos. And the good Christian Congressman from my district, Doug Lamborn, cannot even get himself to attend the "tar baby's" State of the Union speech. He is acting out his true feelings...covert racism.
    Schmidt you are 100% correct but! I'm afraid! it's a losing battle to get through to these people!
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    I really question the many on the left (Republicans & Tea Partiers), especially those media heads on Fox. They join in with the chorus of the world in sorrow and discussing the good merits of a great Nelson Mandela. It is good in truth and for all in humanity to praise the accomplishment that Nelson Mandela has done during difficult times in South Africa. He was an outstanding person to exemplify in standing up for humanity. My problem is listening and watching the media those that have in past are clearly covert racism in character that this posting discusses. We need a good lie meter developed to inform us when a person lies upon stating how sad they are for someone when in fact they are rejoicing in good riddance. How many of those same people tell the media how sad they are if Obama dies. Yes, I believe we need to analyze covert racism periodically to test someone's true character. This same method should be used to analyze the Tea Partiers when they want to cut taxes. Beware of what comes from the slippery snake-tongued politicians and Fox news. The Tea Partiers in my area took to the news today explaining the goodness in Nelson Mandela and all they are doing is capturing whatever votes they can for 2014. Personally, I am comfortable feeling the way I do, which is not believing anything they profess to say. It doesn't match their past character performances. So, I encourage all you readers to look back on what these politicians and media have said in the past and weigh it to the words they say today. Did they really change? I doubt it.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dallas, TX
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    The Tea Party is an anti-intellectual movement started by a bunch of cry babies who lost an election and would rather destroy the place than abide by the results of our electoral process.