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Who's Islamic? A Second Look

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  • Democrat
    Ypsilanti, MI
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    I find it ironic that the Republicans, while accusing President Obama of being Islamic, are far closer to the Al Quaeda's radical Islamics than they would have us believe: witness their actions against women, minorities, voting rights. Forcing women, by closing down clinics and refusing preventive care to have children they cannot afford, calling it "right to life" while at the same time planning their demise through starvation and/or lack of medical care. To Republicans, the "right to life" clearly ends at birth.

    I suggest that many of those who call themselves "Christian" are actually religionists, zealously attacking any and all of those who do not agree with them word for word.
  • Liberal
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    Llos Angeles, CA
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    Usually, closet racists hide behind the guise of true believer. Its safer to call Obama a terrorist than a n-gg r. I just don't understand why people can't be honest about true feelings.
  • Strongly Liberal
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    Seattle, WA
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    bqmother1 Wrote: I find it ironic that the Republicans, while accusing President Obama of being Islamic, are far closer to the Al Quaeda's radical Islamics than they would have us believe: witness their actions against women, minorities, voting rights. Forcing women, by closing down clinics and refusing preventive care to have children they cannot afford, calling it "right to life" while at the same time planning their demise through starvation and/or lack of medical care. To Republicans, the "right to life" clearly ends at birth.

    I suggest that many of those who call themselves "Christian" are actually religionists, zealously attacking any and all of those who do not agree with them word for word.
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    You've basically got the right idea, though if I may I would like to make a few points of clarification and elaboration.

    I would say it is the "Religious Right," most of whom are Republicans, who ignore Article 6 and the 1st Amendment of the Constitution by demanding that a president must be a Christian. They Founders and Framers of the Constitution disagreed. But the "Religious Right" doesn't stop there. They are hypocrites who ignore many of the core universal teachings of Jesus, and they falsely claim that Islam is a "wicked religion."

    They, and the false radical Muslim terrorists who are also hypocrites, should read the Quran where it says: "Speak with great courtesy to Jews and Christians, because we all believe in the same God" (29:46).

    Furthermore, Qur’an 2:136 instructs Muslims to say: "We believe in God and that which is revealed unto us, and that which was revealed unto Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and which the prophets received from their Lord."

    There is much in the Quran that agrees with preceding prophets, including Jesus, and it mentions Jesus many times.

    It does say that, if attacked, the faithful may retaliate in an appropriate way that is proportionate to the wrong suffered. However, it also says that tolerance is far more advisable than retaliation. It says: "To bear yourselves with patience is far better for you, since God is with those who are patient in adversity." (16:125- 127) Indeed, it even says it is a meritorious act to "be charitable and to refrain from retaliation." (5:45) It is very similar to the teaching of Jesus, which advises us to "turn the other cheek" rather than retaliate by striking back.

    The American "Religious Right" and the False Jihadists who claim to be Muslims should acknowledge these facts.
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote: Usually, closet racists hide behind the guise of true believer. Its safer to call Obama a terrorist than a n-gg r. I just don't understand why people can't be honest about true feelings.
    And the same with calling him a communist... He is a liberal capitalist liberal evangelical christian....
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    The terms liberal, capitalist, communist, socialist, evangelical, fascist and others are thrown around by people with little idea of how to define them. In reality there are degrees of commitment to a whole host of the underlying issues that might stereotype a person in general with such a label. One can take a liberal point of view on one issue and a more centrist or conservative point of view on another. Plus many people are open minded and can modify their views as new information and facts arise. Those are the kind of people I like. I struggle in having discussions with ideologues on both the left and the right.

    Having said that, Barack Obama in my opinion has a blend of capitalist and socialist views (as do most all Americans), and while being a Christian, I would not characterize him as an evangelical, although many Christian evangelicals are also subject to degrees of commitment to their religious beliefs. I like Obama because he can compromise, and as I have pointed out to many on this website, "compromise" is not a four letter word.