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Bill Maher exposes the misinfomed public on ObamaCare

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    I watched the Bill Maher show last night. He had a segment where he sent his resident documentarian Alexandra Pelosi (daughter of Nancy) out to the streets of New York to find out what regular people know about the Affordable Care Act.

    Mediaite: Bill Maher Proves That New Yorkers Know Nothing About Obamacare

    The responses, if representative of the New York population as a whole, are incredulous. However, I must say that all the ridiculous statements about people's beliefs had to originate somewhere and I need look no further than Fox News or perhaps washed up politicians like Sarah Palin.

    Watch the clip.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Schmidt I watched it too. Jay Leno does the very same thing on a regular basis. It's not just ACA/Obamacare but can be any serious subject and Leno hits the street and asks people about whatever subject matter. Their ignorance is always astounding and most of them don't seem to care that they are on TV making fools of themselves.

    I don't chalk up their ignorance to Fox news, I chalk it up to apathy of the people. They do not know and they do not care. Much like conspiracy theorists everywhere, many people would rather believe a wild, crazy story with no credibility than bother to find out the truth.

    I'd be willing to bet that Fox news has not suggested that Obamacare will be implanting microchips in patients. If they did, I believe that we'd have heard about it before last nights show.

    The other thing is how many people were interviewed for the story. Maybe there were lots of people interviewed who actually knew what they were talking about and knowledgeable on Obamacare. Those interviews would be passed over for the segment that makes it to the TV show.

    If they interview five smart people and one idiot it is the idiot who will make the cut. Same with Jay Leno and the segment last night...they only show the interviews that reinforce their agenda. In this case the agenda was to show ignorance of Obamacare so that's what they showed.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I watched the segment from Jay Leno's Show , where people were asked for the difference's between Obama Care and the Affordable Care Act, I did not find it amusing at all, in fact I felt really disappointed that some so many people were so poorly uninformed or misinformed, especially in a city of that size.
  • Other Party
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    johnny it IS funny, and it IS sad. At the moment you're watching it it's funny because Leno is setting these idiots up and you know there are going to be stupid answers to his questions and you just enjoy the entertainment of it. But after the moment is over you just wonder at how these people could be this stupid.

    The REALLY sad part is that some of these people actually vote.
  • Independent
    fort lauderdale, FL
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    whether you know anything about obamacare, fact is rates are outrageously high. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW. when your employer pays your premium and you pay a portion, it is not taxed. Under Obamacare, you will pay your entire premium after tax as your employer will no longer submit the premium...you will If you again are single, and make more than 46000, you will get no subsidy to offset your premium. I am 61, single and make more than 46,000. My premium will be 675-875 a month, after tax. Go on line and check your premiums...this will tell you the truth. Your out of pocket expenses will skyrocket if you pay attention what you will be paid up to your deductible for xrays, tests, etc etc. WAKE UP PEOPLE. tHIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FOX, MAHER OR ANYTHING....GET IN TOUCH WITH REALITY.

    IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE A HOME VALUED AT 250K OR MORE, DID YOU KNOW THAT IN THE OBAMACARE BILL, YOU WILL NOW PAY 28% TAX ON ALL PROFITS ABOVE 250K WHEN YOU SELL YOUR HOUSE AT CLOSING. GOD FORBID IF YOU OWN THAT HOUSE OUTRIGHT. 28% RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
  • Libertarian
    Carlsbad, CA
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    What you don't hear is the $5,000 deductable. Really this a a great deal for the insurance companys. The average 25 year old will pay $200 a month with a $5000 deductable. That means they will pay $7400 a year before the health insurance kicks in. Stop using Foxs news and all the other excuses you use. Just Tell The Truth !!!!!
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    Tickedoff: Get in touch with reality? Where did you get that idiotic information? http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2012/04/02/there-is-no-obamacare-tax-on-mos...
  • Independent
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    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043282/Nancy-Pelosis-brother-law-given-loan-bigger-Solyndra-solar-plant.html

    I bet Bill Maher never had much to say about the above especially after the Solandra total waste of taxpayer money. This should be illegal. You think she had to be lobbied very much for this nearly 800 million dollar loan to her brother-in-law??????????????????
  • Independent
    Toms River, NJ
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    @Kim Metzger, As far as the healthcare premiums and deductibles are concerned, tickedoff got most of her information from the government's own website, as I did. I have been waiting for the ACA for a long time now. I thought I could finally get health insurance. Boy, was I wrong. On what we earn as a family we will get a subsidy, but we will still only be able to afford the bronze coverage. That means in New Jersey I will have a 5k deductible. So, I STILL won't be able to see a doctor but now I'll have to pay for the "privilege". We have been utilizing food banks at least once a month as it is with utilities and other costs skyrocketing. Now I have to pay for something I can't use? As I said, this information came from the govt. website, you know, the one that does not work if you want to register. If you have any further information, please send me the link. NJ is offering the same disgustingly priced health insurance it offered before the ACA became law. And at my age, 55, it's too expensive. And that part about insurance companies competing for business? Yea, that's not true either, at least not in NJ. There is only a few dollars difference between companies. At this point, I do believe taking the tax penalties would be cheaper for me.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Nj.com, October 20, 2013: Obamacare: How affordable is health insurance after the Affordable Care Act?

    This website article discusses the cost of buying insurance on the exchanges in New Jersey.

    "Across New Jersey and throughout the country many people, especially those in their 50s and 60s, are experiencing a bit of "sticker shock" as they shop for insurance. Plans cost thousands of dollars per year and many come with deductibles that are a couple thousand more.

    For example, a 60-year-old in New Jersey won’t find an individual health insurance plan on the exchange for less than $600 per month. Anyone who earns between $45,960 — the level at which subsidies stop — and $90,000 would be exempt from the penalty because the federal government considers that unaffordable.

    Two 60-year-olds shopping for a family plan will pay almost $14,000 annually for the cheapest plan. Their income would have to be about $178,000 to meet the government’s "affordability" test. That’s more than twice the median household income for New Jersey residents ages 45-64, according to the U.S. Census."


    That's the problem with buying unsubsidized insurance as you get older. Working for an employer, you have the benefit of the employer subsidy plus the group policies generally have a good mix of younger and older employees that keep the average costs down for the older employees. I would have liked to see them lower the Medicare eligibility age to 55. This idea has been considered but somehow cannot get support.

    FDL, November 29, 2012: How About Lowering Medicare’s Retirement Age?

    "The CBO has previously stated that offering a public option partially based on Medicare rate to everyone in the new Affordable Care Act exchanges would save roughly $15 billion a year. This means if we were to only allow adults between, say, the ages 50-65 on the exchange to effectively “buy into Medicare early,” it should produce smaller but still real savings for the federal government.

    "What makes an early Medicare buy-in a good deficit reduction idea is that it is also just good policy. Unlike raising the Medicare retirement age, which would force millions of regular Americans to pay more for health care, creating an early Medicare buy-in would save both the government and regular people money. Politically, an early Medicare buy-in is also radically more popular with voters.


    Of course, with this Congress getting anything like that passed is hopeless...
  • Liberal
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    As someone who has been on Medicare for five years I can say it's the absolutely best health care program this country has. It should have be changed to cover all Americans from birth and fully funded by income taxes (mostly by doubeling or tripling taxes on corporations and the wealthy) but that's not what happened and probably never shall.

    On a side note, my wife and I just received notice from our Medex provider (BC/BS of MA) that our premiums (full coverage) are dropping by $20 a month primarily because of the ACA.
  • Democrat
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    Never surprised at stupidity of my fellow citizens
  • Democrat
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    Love my Medicaid Advantage Humana Gold Plus. Check it out.
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    I am ashamed to say that I was in the non committal opinion of ObamaCare as it appeared it would not effect me or my family much. However, the topic finally came up between my coworkers and friends this week. I am now outraged.
    I have friends that have had their own insurance for years. Their employer does not provide insurance and so they have paid for health insurance out of their own pockets for many years. They received letters informing them of the new cost to their health care coverage.
    It didn't go down. It didn't stay approximately the same. The cost of their plans TRIPLED.
    One of my friends has been able to actually speak to a person at the insurance company the cheapest plan. The cheapest plan is DOUBLE what she is paying presently (will expire in December) and with much less coverage.

    So I am posting to share my error in taking the opinion of "it doesn't effect me" attitude and hope that those are guilty of the same, reconsider their prospective on the subject. How would you feel, if your daughter, son,sister, brother, mom or dad had to pay triple what they had been paying?

    I am upset that the news media wants to cover the computer glitch. I'm thinking who cares, that will eventually be fixed.
    What about these costs we expect people to pay?

    My friends and coworkers were paying for insurance prior to this law. They wanted insurance. This probably wouldn't be so noticeable had they not had insurance. A person could dismiss this as this is just the cost of insurance. But when your same policy TRIPLES???

    Please, don't look at this law with blinders as I have. Take a moment and ask amongst those you know how it is effecting them. This is outrageous. If the shoe was on the other foot, wouldn't you appreciate if someone stood with you to point out something that was effecting you so badly?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Southerner --

    In browsing the media and various blogs, there seem to be more and more first hand stories that contradict each other. Some people write in and rave about how much they are saving while others like you cite opposite experiences. I know also that many stories are bogus or can easily be debunked under scrutiny.

    Sean Hannity on Fox News, for example, featured three couples on his show. As reported by Salon, Hannity's guests "recounted their “Obamacare” horror stories: canceled policies, premium hikes, restrictions on the freedom to see a doctor of their choice, financial burdens upon their small businesses and so on."

    Eric Stern, Salon, Inside the Fox News lie machine: I fact-checked Sean Hannity on Obamacare

    Stern was dubious about the claims and chased down each of the couples. He interviewed each of them and discovered that none of them had actually taken the time to shop for insurance on the exchanges. They were simply citing what the insurance company said. Here's one example:

    "Finally, I called Robbie and Tina Robison from Franklin, Tenn. Robbie is self-employed as a Christian youth motivational speaker. On Hannity, the couple said that they, too, were recently notified that their Blue Cross policy would be expiring for lack of ACA compliance. They told Hannity that the replacement plans Blue Cross was offering would come with a rate increase of 50 percent or even 75 percent, and that the new offerings would contain all sorts of benefits they don’t need, like maternity care, pediatric care, prenatal care and so forth. Their kids are grown and moved out, so why should they be forced to pay extra for a health plan with superfluous features?

    "When I spoke to Robbie, he said he and Tina have been paying a little over $800 a month for their plan, about $10,000 a year. And the ACA-compliant policy that will cost 50-75 percent more? They said this information was related to them by their insurance agent.

    "Had they shopped on the exchange yet, I asked? No, Tina said, nor would they. They oppose Obamacare and want nothing to do with it. Fair enough, but they should know that I found a plan for them for, at most, $3,700 a year, 63 percent less than their current bill. It might cover things that they don’t need, but so does every insurance policy"


    I don't dispute what you are saying, but it would be helpful if you can provide more details. Shopping for insurance on the exchange is easy once you can get in. If your source of information is the insurance company itself, chances are the info is bogus.