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Blame it on the poor Park Ranger for the shutdown

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  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    I'm not surprised this is typically Texas. GOP Congressman Randy Neugebauer initiated an verbal exchange with a Park Ranger doing her job. I assume she was controlling pedestrian traffic entering a memorial. Even if she was ordered to deny access, she was still doing her job. She should be praised for that because the Congressman berating her sure wasn't doing his job. Why was he outside enjoying the October sun when he should have been in session getting the budget passed and ending this stalemate. No, he would rather cause hatred and bedlam for the sake of bringing down a President and showing off his racial outrage to Obama. Ok, maybe, I'm stretching with the racial comment, but again from Texas, I will not be surprised.

    A big hearty thanks to a bystander that got into the face of the Congressman for belittling the young woman Park Ranger. Oh, how proud Congressman Neugebauer must be as an American saying, the Park Ranger should be ashamed. Of what, doing her job? The young woman stood her ground and said, "I'm not ashamed...". Great response. I'd vote for her into Congress.

    When God gave brains and a heart to men and woman, Congressman Neugebauer must have been absent. Congressman Neugebauer is a poor example of what it means to be an American.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Well said. GOP Congressman Randy Neugebauer is all too typical of the far right of the Republican Party.
  • Democrat
    Traverse City, MI
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    Could not agree more. The Texas congressman is a well trained bully. They are all amazingly alike, aren't they?
    Thanks to the young woman Ranger. There are some wonderful people in this world. We cannot forget it.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I still can't understand the purpose of placing Park Rangers and barricades on open air memorial sites, what's next , a sheath for the Washington Memorial, a drape for the Statue of Liberty, this was done for nothing more than spite, the purpose was to inflict more inconveince on the tax payer, I think the Administration was counting on a good negative sound byte against the GOP, but didn't count on those Veterans taking matters into their own hands as they did during the WWII to accomplish their objective.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    An answer to James: It isn't very hard to understand that without some protection to the memorials, we would find graffiti or worse damage done to those things America likes to keep for all to see. I imagine that management of parks and recreation areas is no different than most parks, when you have a requirement to control access. Without controls and removal of all Park Rangers we would leave America's memorials open to all sorts of vandalism. Upon using a limited staff of protecting the memorial, it makes sense to control the access and limit the masses.

    But most of all, the Park Ranger is only following orders and to be bullied by some loud-mouth brainless Republican is stupid. If the order went out to furlough numbers of employees, a manager is left with managing with less Rangers and it makes plain sense to deny access.

    GOP Congressman Randy Neugebauer is known to harass and belittle people around him. He has a history of bad mouth. Randy Neugebauer is the same person that yelled "baby killer", in a congressional session on anti-abortion. America needs much smarter and controlled behavior from those who serve in Congress. Randy Neugebauer is an embarrassment to America.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: I still can't understand the purpose of placing Park Rangers and barricades on open air memorial sites, what's next , a sheath for the Washington Memorial, a drape for the Statue of Liberty, this was done for nothing more than spite, the purpose was to inflict more inconveince on the tax payer, I think the Administration was counting on a good negative sound byte against the GOP, but didn't count on those Veterans taking matters into their own hands as they did during the WWII to accomplish their objective.
    Johnnycee--

    You seem to shop around to find anything to criticize President Obama. Your accusations are so full of BS it's hardly worth a response. Instead of criticizing GOP Congressman Randy Neugebauer you have to make up some kind of conspiracy to fault Obama...not only on this but on every other issue of the day. Your side lost the 2012 election so get on board.

    I agree with AmcmurryFreedom. A good response.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I never said that I liked President Obama's policies and more importantly the decision to close open air memorials was nothing more than spite and to also to add more anger to the citizens of this county , in previous shutdowns these memorials were not closed off, I do not cherry pick anything, I just believe that it takes two to tango, it takes two argue, and two to fight, whether one side is being stubborn or obstinate in their beliefs and the other side is just trying to be tenacious and resolute in the their beliefs we will not know until the final outcome. I don't know anything about this Congressman Randy Neugebaur, so I am reluctant to start criticizing him for his actions , you imply that I should have known of his previous antics with other government employee's, which I don't, so you sir are full of BS and bluster.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    I think it is entirely fitting that the WWII vets busted through the barricades to see their WWII memorial. After all they beat the Germans and the Japanese, so a few park rangers probably weren't going to be much of a problem.

    These vets are the "Greatest Generation" and that nickname is very fitting because they are true heros and they saved the world. They have planned this trip for months and maybe years, they are all close to, or more than 90 years old, many in wheelchairs, they don't have long left on this earth so what did they have to lose? What were the rangers going to do, arrest a bunch of old men in wheelchairs?

    Closing all the national parks and monuments is dumb but especially stupid to try to close this WWII monument from these guys.
  • Center Left
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    I agree with Schmidt. Johnny, if you are (truly) a democrat (which I doubt) then why all the negativity. Is it more simple ? Hell ya can't just come out and blast the pres. because you're a _ _ _ _ _ _. That sure wouldn't be popular. But it might be accurate.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I have often posted that I am a democrat but that I haven't voted a straight ticket since I don't now when, that being said, I did not vote for Obama the first time around, but his policies and wasted efforts on behalf of his party concerns rather than the people who voted for him made him a big disappointment to me, his second term is an even bigger disappointment what with the lies and deceitful ways of his party's leaders it didn't leave much to appreciate, if being a true democrat means believing everything that the party leader say is true with out question then I guess I am not a true democrat, as for the negativity, what is there to be positive about, as I said previously my wife's health ins. is going up to $4500 more a year, now that's what the Ins. said in the letter and they give the cause as the new regulations contained in the Affordable Care Act and did I mention that we are on a fixed income, my health provider hasn't told me yet what my new rates will be but I am already in the hole for $4500.00 just for my wife, btw, I don't qualify for any grants or subsidies, and that is just 1 item that caused me to be no longer a Obama voter, there are others ,just review my previous posts.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: in previous shutdowns these memorials were not closed off, I do not cherry pick anything
    This is not accurate. During the shutdowns of 95-96, the national parks and monuments shuttered their doors just as they have during the current shutdown. "Other impacts included: the closure of 368 National Park sites resulted in the loss of some seven million visitors" Source
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: in previous shutdowns these memorials were not closed off, I do not cherry pick anything
    This is not accurate. During the shutdowns of 95-96, the national parks and monuments shuttered their doors just as they have during the current shutdown. "Other impacts included: the closure of 368 National Park sites resulted in the loss of some seven million visitors" Source
    Now you know that your just wrong , plain and simple, the various DC memorials were open during that shut down as were the National Parks, here in Philadelphia , the colonial parks and memorials were open, there were not any paid tour guides , must of these sites were open air back then, but since 9/11 they are now enclosed because of any possible threats, I had visited Valley Forge and that was open, of course that was and still is mostly an open air site, now they have closed off the paths to various camp sites, .
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    My calculations were off some what, it seems my gorilla fingers didn't do the math right, it turns out the rate went up by $450.. not $4500.00. but still my wife and I are on fixed incomes so $450 dollars is still a loss in our standard of living.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    Insurance costs have been skyrocketing for many years. The INS. company may blame the ACA but I believe it's just greed. Plus the cost of so many lobbyists. I think there must be some sort of investigation to ensure the INS companies aren't involved in collusion.
    At my last job I was paying about 600.00 per month for just my wife and myself. And my employer had about 20,000 employees worldwide which should have provided good buying power. My coverage was good though.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: in previous shutdowns these memorials were not closed off, I do not cherry pick anything
    This is not accurate. During the shutdowns of 95-96, the national parks and monuments shuttered their doors just as they have during the current shutdown. "Other impacts included: the closure of 368 National Park sites resulted in the loss of some seven million visitors" Source
    Now you know that your just wrong , plain and simple, the various DC memorials were open during that shut down as were the National Parks, here in Philadelphia , the colonial parks and memorials were open, there were not any paid tour guides , must of these sites were open air back then, but since 9/11 they are now enclosed because of any possible threats, I had visited Valley Forge and that was open, of course that was and still is mostly an open air site, now they have closed off the paths to various camp sites, .
    Once again, we can agree to disagree. Please notify me of any reputable source that proves your point and not just "well, I know my point is true."