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GOP tactics anti-obama

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  • Independent
    San Francisco, CA
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    I listened on Monday evening to Chris' take on GOP tactics and purposes. I think he has it exactly right. He might round it off with one additional thought. I think the bottom line for them has always been that, even if all their tactics fail, one thing will ultimately succeed, as long as they hold fast to their nasty tactics throughout these eight years, When it’s all over, what will remain, if nothing else, is the dog-whistle that says to white-Americans, “Remember how bad it was when Obama was in office; Don’t ever put another black person in the WHITE house, again!.” I hope they are wrong about that one, too.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    The Republican party lives off of lies and hate, without lies and hate there is no Republican Party. Talk about a bunch of people giving the majority a bad name, or an ignorant title.
  • Independent
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    unitedmajority Wrote: The Republican party lives off of lies and hate, without lies and hate there is no Republican Party. Talk about a bunch of people giving the majority a bad name, or an ignorant title.
    Yeah, and it isn't even the majority any more, except locally.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    The money system knows, as long as the majority remains divided into two or more political parties that disagree on everything, we will remain powerless and the system doesn't have to change our constitution to keep us powerless. As long as we continue to cheer for our political party like we cheer for our favorite sports team no matter what they do, the money system has no fears of a majority take over, like our constitution gives us the power to do, when and if our government becomes corrupt. Hmm, when a government gives the rich more money with less taxes and gives the poor less money and more taxes or in todays terms, fees on every government service for the majority, would you say the government has become corrupt?
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    Unitedmajority --

    Your point about "As long as we continue to cheer for our political party like we cheer for our favorite sports team no matter what they do," is appropriate. I've referenced the psychologist, Jonathan Haidt, before in this website, and his New York Times article, Forget the Money, Follow the Sacredness, covers exactly that point...he calls it sacredness:

    Jonathan Haidt, New York Times, March 17, 2012: Forget the Money, Follow the Sacredness

    Quoting Haidt:

    "Despite what you might have learned in Economics 101, people aren’t always selfish. In politics, they’re more often groupish. When people feel that a group they value — be it racial, religious, regional or ideological — is under attack, they rally to its defense, even at some cost to themselves. We evolved to be tribal, and politics is a competition among coalitions of tribes.

    "The key to understanding tribal behavior is not money, it’s sacredness. The great trick that humans developed at some point in the last few hundred thousand years is the ability to circle around a tree, rock, ancestor, flag, book or god, and then treat that thing as sacred. People who worship the same idol can trust one another, work as a team and prevail over less cohesive groups. So if you want to understand politics, and especially our divisive culture wars, you must follow the sacredness."


    Many middle class Americans vote for Republicans for the same reason they cheer for their favorite sports team no matter how much they suck. It's groupish, tribal and sacred...it's brand loyalty...but it's certainly not critical thinking. I often use the term willfully ignorant.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Schmidt,
    I appreciate the explanation as to why people stand behind their political team no matter what the team does, I knew this happened, but never really knew why, now I do. Tribal mentality explains a lot of things for me for sure, even mob mentality, thanks for the simple lesion that I never learned before. Sure the money system knew this and a lot more I don't, I guess I have a lot to learn if I ever want to catch them and crush them with a majority tribe.
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    MrJim Wrote: I listened on Monday evening to Chris' take on GOP tactics and purposes. I think he has it exactly right. He might round it off with one additional thought. I think the bottom line for them has always been that, even if all their tactics fail, one thing will ultimately succeed, as long as they hold fast to their nasty tactics throughout these eight years, When it’s all over, what will remain, if nothing else, is the dog-whistle that says to white-Americans, “Remember how bad it was when Obama was in office; Don’t ever put another black person in the WHITE house, again!.” I hope they are wrong about that one, too.
    Well, gentlemen, I agree with you that “boys will be boys,” wink, wink, nudge, nudge. But, while I was writing my topic statement, I was remembering reading W. E. B. Du Bois’ seminal book, Black Reconstruction in America 1860-1880, New York, The Free Press 1935, where he states the following about the attempts by the Southern states to obstruct the passage of the 14th Amendment in December, 1868.


    "But behind all this, and explaining this interest in the Negro on the part of most Northerners, was a growing conviction that an arrogant South was returning to Congress with increased political power; that its leaders were essentially the same men who had disrupted the Union and precipitated a costly and bloody war; that there was no reason to suppose that these men had changed their convictions in the slightest or surrendered for a moment their determination to dominate the country, and fight monopoly in industry with monopoly in agriculture.

    "In the face of their fatal failure, Southerners were demanding increased political power, and that political power could and in all probability would be used for everything disadvantageous to the majority of the nation: it would be used against the spread of democratic ideals; it would be used for further increasing the political power of the South; it would be used against industry, property, and capital as buttressed by the tariff, the national banks, and the public debt.

    "It was in vain that before, during and since the war, the North had offered to compromise with this unyielding bloc. There was only one defense against the power of the South and while that was revolutionary and hitherto undreamed of, it was the only way, and it could not be stopped by the stubbornness of one narrow-minded man [President Johnson]. That was Negro suffrage." Pp 330


    It’s amazing to me that 140 years later with the change of so few words, we see the same tactics being played out and aimed, once more, at all “Negroes,” and especially just one; the one that got to the White House. But, perhaps there is still no reason to suppose that the descendents of slave owners and slavery sympathizers should have “changed their convictions in the slightest or surrendered for a moment their determination to dominate the country….” After all, the democratic ideals have persevered for just as long.
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    That analogy to a Tribe really seems accurate. Then when they mix the tribe of politics, together with the tribe of religion, & add in personal icons, repeated phraseology, hero worship, & the psychology of brain-washing, the whole thing becomes extremely powerful. But they'd need loyalty to the tribe, no matter what, since if they ever left the tribe, they would almost lose their own identity.
  • Democrat
    Michigan
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    Any working class person making $30,000.00 to 80,000.00 a year and voting republican, I would consider very ill informed.
    They watch to much fox tv