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America! Right or Wrong!

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  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    Here is a couple indications of how indifferent America has become to right and wrong: a $250 million, 226,000 square foot library on 23 acres in Dallas dedicated to a war criminal and the ones who paid for this monument to the worst kind of criminal and unbridled corruption were the very ones who made billions in war profits from that war criminal's war of aggression in Iraq and another indication is the honored guest at the Memorial Concert in Washington DC who is another war criminal; Colin Powell and the reason that this lying traitor was there was the fact that the Robber Baron war profiteers sponsored this event. If the rule of law applied to the rich and powerful in this country then these two war criminals and their gang would have been hung years ago.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
    Democrat
    Portland, OR
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    I definitely understand your frustration about the Bush years and the hypocrisy of who paid for his library, but I would respectfully disagree with you regarding Secretary Powell. He was the fall guy with regards to the Iraq War. He wanted nothing to do with that terrible war, but his President made him go to the UN with faulty "intelligence" to sell to the Security Council. Could he have resigned in protest? Absolutely. However, I don't hold Secretary Powell responsible for Iraq. I hold Bush and Cheney responsible and also blame them for tarnishing Mr Powell's reputation for the rest of his life.
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Denton, TX
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    Well put jared. Powell found himself between a rock and an incredibly hard place during that time. It's hard to completely fault the guy for doing what he did.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    At one time I thought that Powell had a chance to be Americas first black president, and I know others who thought so, too.

    I don't know how much Powell really believed about Iraq having WMD's, only he knows what was in his mind at that time. Maybe he believed all of it, after all other nations intel services were saying the same.
  • Center Left
    Independent
    Denton, TX
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    'You are going to be the proud owner of 25 million people,' he told the president. 'You will own all their hopes, aspirations, and problems. You'll own it all.' ~Colin Powell

    Privately, Powell and Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage called this the Pottery Barn rule: You break it, you own it.

    Powell was not in favor of invading Iraq.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    I agree that Powell was not in favor of invading.

    But did he believe everything he said about the WMD's? Was he just sticking to the "company line" and doing his duty by reporting what he was told to report, or did he have serious doubts about the whole thing?

    Either way, it made him look bad.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Like I've said in many of my "threads" Washington is run by "insiders"; it is either weighted to the left or right, but does not matter much. Once elected the general public has little say; the lobbyists take over. So in case of Bush or Powell, whatever they did the people elected them. So if you voted for the wrong party, bad luck. So blame yourself. I personally rather have a Democrat, but even that is not clear cut because as you see right now the congress gets nothing usefull done. No the Washington culture is about the worst you can get, because regardless of who we elect the lobbyists and money for them and their buddies is all what counts; wars or no wars do not matter; I do not think that if Obama would have been in the place of Bush that he would have acted different. They all only listen to the money flow and their ego's for them and their buddies, nothing else.