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Senate Overwhelmingly Passes Immigration Reform Bill

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The United States Senate just voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Immigration Reform bill by a count of 68-32. Now the fight goes to the House of Representatives, where the outcome is far less certain. This is a great day for our country, but we still have a long way to go before we can all claim victory and pat ourselves on the back. The American people need to step up their game and pressure their Representatives in the House to do the right thing and pass this bill. Thoughts on today's historic vote?
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I am a firm believer in securing the border first before any actions regarding any path to citizenship are taken, it doesn't matter to me whether its the southern or northern border.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: I am a firm believer in securing the border first before any actions regarding any path to citizenship are taken, it doesn't matter to me whether its the southern or northern border.
    That's what is in the bill. Just look at Republican Senator's own words about the "militarization" of the southern border in this bill. What else could opponents possibly want? And the bill calls for the securing of the border before the path to citizenship can even begin. These undocumented people have to spend years under green card status before they can even apply for citizenship. It's just not correct to say that we can't "secure" our border while bringing millions out of the shadows at the same time. We can do both.
  • Democrat
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    The conversation is the same one that Congress had back in 06 when the fence was first being built and also back in 86, when the first amnesty was granted, no security, no amnesty or whatever their calling it now before the border is secured just as almost every nation on this planet has secured it's borders, why don't we secure ours?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    That is a false statement. Plain and simple. North Korea and Israel have fences. Please inform me of any other country that does.

    Not only that, but where is the compassion? We are a country built by immigrants that have fought and died for it. Why, after 200 years of that, do we need to change and say nobody's welcome anymore? Who of us has the right to deny someone the freedom that they desire here?
  • Democrat
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    It is not a false statement , the 11 million illegals here already will after 6 months after the signing of the Bill will begin the process of citizenship, plus their relatives will be allowed to immigrate here, coming out of the shadows my foot, the money they make here is sent back to their native country's economy. Yes North Korea has a fence, at the DMZ, no fence divides it from it's other neighbor, Israel has a fence dividing the contested Gaza Strip, their other borders have checkpoints, as for the history of what made this country great immigrant wise, those individuals came here to escape harsh conditions in their native lands and for the most part barely eked out a living here, they had high mortality rates both among the children and the adults, they made it on their own without government handouts, they were treated harshly by the elements and by other settlers. Don't start with that compassion nonsense, this country was not founded on compassion but on the brute force of will of these settlers to survive. No way do these current illegals even come close to those early settlers. If they want to become American citizens so badly why do they insist on not assimilating but instead maintain their culture even to the point of raising the Mexican flag on U.S. soil, demanding that American schools teach their culture, I could go on but why bother, also there are other immigrants besides Latin there have been Europeans, Russians, Czechs, Serbs, Asians and various _-----stans countries. This whole Bill is about capturing the Latin vote, and only that!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I'm not going to engage in an argument with you. We both have our beliefs and that's what is great about this country, but I do encourage you to read the bill before you continue to make these erroneous judgments about it. I have read the entire bill, and while many parts of it are against everything that I believe America stands for, I'm still for it because it is better than doing nothing at all. It is not right to have millions of people living within these borders that have no rights at all. That's not what our country is about.
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: I'm not going to engage in an argument with you. We both have our beliefs and that's what is great about this country, but I do encourage you to read the bill before you continue to make these erroneous judgments about it. I have read the entire bill, and while many parts of it are against everything that I believe America stands for, I'm still for it because it is better than doing nothing at all. It is not right to have millions of people living within these borders that have no rights at all. That's not what our country is about.
    I just wonder with all the hype about Snowdon; did they enter a clause that all "illegal" imigrants will be subject to NSA screening or wiretaps or e-mail scrutiny before they qualify under any such law?
  • Democrat
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    Sorry Dutch, you have to first be a U.S. citizen to come under the scrunity of the various spy agencies.
  • Center Left Democrat
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    talk about shooting yourself in the foot !




    In spite of the fact that the Senate posed an immigration reform bill this summer, Alabama SENATOR Jeff Sessions recently delivered delivered a 30 page package to all 232 House Republicans that offered a point by point rebuttal to the expected standards that House Speaker John Boehner (the statue in the corner during the State of the Union address) plans to circulate this week:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/29/gop-immigration_n_4690543.html

    In view of the fact that Mitt Romney received only 27% of the Hispanic vote in 2012, you would think that it would be obvious to ALL Republicans that they need to be more realistic on how they treat immigrants.

    Than again ..

    Jeff Sessions is ranked as the 5th most conservative U.S. Senator -
    Ronald Reagan nominated him to be a District Court judge, but he was found to be "not qualified" -
    he signed Grover Norquist's tax pledge , and the list goes on and on and on ...

    He was born and raised in Alabama, which is considered to be one of the most religious states in the country, and a majority of those folks considered themselves to be evangelical Protestants, which may explain why his margin of victory has increased in every election.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sessions

    Due to the fact that the largest employer in the entire state of Alabama is the Redstone Arsenal, he has consistently voted against any bill that restricts gun ownership in any way:

    http://votesmart.org/bills/NA/2013/37#.Uurv5bSu6uQ
  • Center Left
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: That is a false statement. Plain and simple. North Korea and Israel have fences. Please inform me of any other country that does.

    Not only that, but where is the compassion? We are a country built by immigrants that have fought and died for it. Why, after 200 years of that, do we need to change and say nobody's welcome anymore? Who of us has the right to deny someone the freedom that they desire here?
    Jared, You are right. This country was built by immigrants. Hell, except for the American Indians, we all came from immigrants. HOWEVER, You should ask before you come in the door. Just common politeness and of course following the laws.
  • Democrat
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    I believe this Bill has little chance in the House unless the GOP first removes the Secured Borders clause , which they are very reluctant to do, so hold off the end zone dance for now, btw, I believe in the secured borders first clause.
  • Liberal
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: That is a false statement. Plain and simple. North Korea and Israel have fences. Please inform me of any other country that does.

    Not only that, but where is the compassion? We are a country built by immigrants that have fought and died for it. Why, after 200 years of that, do we need to change and say nobody's welcome anymore? Who of us has the right to deny someone the freedom that they desire here?
    You are welcome...but not yet....we are full.....take this pager (like restaurants give) and wait your turn. It isn't a color thing...It's a numbers thing. Half of my family was born in Mexico.....I'll take my mom to Guantanamo if need be (joke) sorry mom.....but my aunt...yes
  • Liberal
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    johnnycee Wrote: I am a firm believer in securing the border first before any actions regarding any path to citizenship are taken, it doesn't matter to me whether its the southern or northern border.
    Completely agree. In fact I asked my mom if anyone in Mexico had cable television because I have 15 cousins between 3 aunts. Mexicans breed faster than rabbits. I make a motion to replace the Easter bunny with Pancho Villa
  • Independent
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    L.A. Citizen Wrote:
    johnnycee Wrote: I am a firm believer in securing the border first before any actions regarding any path to citizenship are taken, it doesn't matter to me whether its the southern or northern border.
    Completely agree. In fact I asked my mom if anyone in Mexico had cable television because I have 15 cousins between 3 aunts. Mexicans breed faster than rabbits. I make a motion to replace the Easter bunny with Pancho Villa
    I thought all Texans and Calfornia people owned guns; give them all a hunting licence and have them protect the border; saves on taxes etc.