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    Dutch --

    You and I are not that different ideologically. I especially appreciate your international perspective on issues. I think if we were each asked to build our vision of the perfect government and had a clean slate to start with, our respective ideal governments would not be that much different. Well there would be one difference...I would stock the White House bar fridge with Moosehead and you would choose Heineken.

    The world is not ideal, however, far from it. The policies that Obama ran on quickly had to be changed as he inherited the worst economic mess since the Great Depression. And he had to put people in place that understood the system to avoid a free fall. No place for rookies. The criticism started at that point and never stopped. I honestly believe that his policies did indeed avert a Great Depression, but economists differ.

    In addition to a potentially catastrophic economic crisis he inherited two wars that had no end in sight.

    The economic recovery has been slower than he would have liked, but again I'll make the excuse that had Congress approved his Jobs Act, the economy would have recovered more quickly and the employment rate would be higher. That's not only my opinion...that's a conclusion from an in-depth analysis by the CBO.

    He was also criticized for pursuing his health care overall while all these other crises were in the works. He had a small window to achieve that goal, and it was only accomplished with some last minute arm twisting. He was criticized for not pursuing a public option, but an Affordable Care Act with a public option would not have had enough support. As it is, the ACA only passed the Senate with a 60-39 vote, just enough to pass the filibuster.

    Once Senator Kennedy died and Scott Brown took his place, from then on it was filibuster after filibuster in the Senate, even though Nancy Pelosi was delivering from her end.

    Okay, I know you know all this but the point that I am making is that President Obama came close to having that ideal government for a short time. And in that short time of exactly one year he accomplished more than any other president in recent memory. The pundits were lauding his successes. When Scott Brown took office in January 2010, the Obama express train became a freight train, burdened down by the Republican ideology. His train was often stopped at sidings while Congress digressed and delayed...and obstructed.

    I am one that wish Obama would be more assertive with those mealy mouth Republicans. I probably would have been giving them the finger time and again. I have said that he plays "nice" with them too often. But then can I really put myself in his shoes to know what he is thinking? No, I cannot. We tend to forget that Obama is a product of a mixed race, and his upbringing in a racial "white mans world" as an African-American comes with a certain need to tread carefully. It's a fine line. Republicans would like nothing more than to pin the "angry black man" label on him...all it takes is one incident. As it is if he shows the slightest irritation with a journalist interrupting him, the headline in the Huffington Post will say "Obama gets angry"...while others on the right will start the media campaign of the angry black man.

    I cannot remember any president who has been so disrespected by Republicans from Joe Wilson's "you lie" to Doug Lambourn's "tar baby" and more. And he takes it all in stride. We may disagree with how he has compromised with the Washington establishment, but he is up against an immense power base that would like nothing more than to see him fail...even if it hurts the country.

    I appreciate the hurdles that he has had to overcome and am not ready to criticize his presidency so easily. Just think...we could have had John McCain and Sarah Palin. That would be my worst nightmare.
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    jamesn Wrote: Dutch you are right about Obama's second term being disappointing, his first term was disappointing too. Just expanding the war in Afghanistan was enough to get me off his bandwagon. Remember that President Obama did not just continue the war in Afghanistan, he made it much bigger.

    Things could always be worse: Can you imagine how many wars we would be in if McCain were the president.

    I remember what leftofcenter said...something like "it really doesn't matter who gets elected" and I don't quite agree with that, but I had such high hopes for this president. I know it's not all his fault, but still disappointing.
    i agree 90%-98% we are headed down the wrong path.but nothing good will happen from makeing our military weak and the goverment spending money like they can just crap gold to melt into bars.the dollar will be worthless and our economy will crash.
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    i agree 90%-98% we are headed down the wrong path.but nothing good will happen from makeing our military weak and the goverment spending money like they can just crap gold to melt into bars.the dollar will be worthless and our economy will crash.
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    perdynerdy --

    I recommend you read some of Carlitos Bam Bam's posts on deficit spending. His latest is here. A certain level of federal government deficit spending is necessary to drive the economy.

    Forum Topic : Warren Mosler-Deficits Matter, a lot! [You've been warned].

    In any case, however, deficit spending has been reduced under President Obama (in part forced on him by an ignorant Congress). This is from Politicus:

    GOP Whips Up Scandals to Avoid Facing Obama’s ‘Most Rapid Deficit Reduction since WWII’

    "The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reported a continued decline in the federal budget deficit: “The CBO projects a $642 billion budget deficit for fiscal year 2013, down more than $200 billion from its February estimate and the smallest annual shortfall since 2008. It is the lowest level of deficit spending to date under President Obama, who faced $1 trillion or more in annual deficits during his first term.”

    "Here’s a real bitter irony for the GOP. At the same time as their ideology took an ugly beating in the reality department, the man they are determined to destroy has a better record at deficit reduction than any of their recent Presidents. In fact, government spending under President Obama has grown at a slower rate than it did under any president since Dwight D. Eisenhower, according to Bloomberg (that’s over 50 years ago, if you’re counting). Ironically, this fact is due in part to their own obstructionism and President Obama’s endless compromises with them."


    The slow rate of growth in the economy is directly related to the reduced level of deficit spending. With a fiat currency, we are not currency constrained and our currency will never be worthless. And the economy will only crash if we cut government spending more...or enact that crazy balanced budget amendment.
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    perdynerdy Wrote: i agree 90%-98% we are headed down the wrong path.but nothing good will happen from makeing our military weak and the goverment spending money like they can just crap gold to melt into bars.the dollar will be worthless and our economy will crash.
    I do not think you know what you are talking about; like "Schmidt" said " spending money does not come from "gold bars" and making the "military weak " is pure nonsense. The militaristic indoctrination in this country is awful and creates this mind setting of "everybody out there" wants to attack us. (Does anyone ever raise the question "why"?)
    The "uniform" (the more gold, stickers, stripes ) sickness is pathetic here; no we only have to have another attitude to the world, then in the first place start no wars on countries who never attacked us in the first place; (most wars after WWII were started without any attack by any such country on us; 9/11 was not done by a "country"); then also we have an extreem "overkill" with all our weaponary; enough to flatten the whole world and keep adding new weapons for enormous fortunes of which money could have been better spent on our economy infrastructure and living standards etc. Do not forget the war industry has got the strongest lobby in Washington and their CEO's are all billionairs or becoming that, thanks to your tax money. No the military should be drastically reduced here and should consist of a rapid effective deployment force. Our country has proven that in case of a WW we can tool up quickly, if needed, as has been proven with WWII.
    The continuously war drum here has to stop; the BS excuse "this keeps America safe" is ridiculous. This country solely exists out of immigrants, so no one wants to attack us or invade us, because then they will kill their own decendants; neither China nor Russia has that intent because they know that then no one survives as well their living standards depend on our economy. The only reason for the "terrorists" attacks are is on how we run around this world and force others to do it our way or else. Sorry to say we can not even run our country properly let alone to tell others on how to do it. Stop the praise for the military, they do not add to make this a better country; everyone out there hates our guts because of the military; the "fear mongering" is the tool which keeps this going.
    I guess it is here Jesus first then second the military last the common people.; very sick indeed. Jesus nor the military makes this a better country. Just stand outside the US and look at it from another country; then it looks like an country who is scared of their own shadow but dresses up like a Rambo balloon only to impress, but it needs only a needle to deflate.
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    Schmidt Wrote: Dutch --

    You and I are not that different ideologically. I especially appreciate your international perspective on issues. I think if we were each asked to build our vision of the perfect government and had a clean slate to start with, our respective ideal governments would not be that much different. Well there would be one difference...I would stock the White House bar fridge with Moosehead and you would choose Heineken.

    The world is not ideal, however, far from it. The policies that Obama ran on quickly had to be changed as he inherited the worst economic mess since the Great Depression. And he had to put people in place that understood the system to avoid a free fall. No place for rookies. The criticism started at that point and never stopped. I honestly believe that his policies did indeed avert a Great Depression, but economists differ.

    In addition to a potentially catastrophic economic crisis he inherited two wars that had no end in sight.

    The economic recovery has been slower than he would have liked, but again I'll make the excuse that had Congress approved his Jobs Act, the economy would have recovered more quickly and the employment rate would be higher. That's not only my opinion...that's a conclusion from an in-depth analysis by the CBO.

    He was also criticized for pursuing his health care overall while all these other crises were in the works. He had a small window to achieve that goal, and it was only accomplished with some last minute arm twisting. He was criticized for not pursuing a public option, but an Affordable Care Act with a public option would not have had enough support. As it is, the ACA only passed the Senate with a 60-39 vote, just enough to pass the filibuster.

    Once Senator Kennedy died and Scott Brown took his place, from then on it was filibuster after filibuster in the Senate, even though Nancy Pelosi was delivering from her end.

    Okay, I know you know all this but the point that I am making is that President Obama came close to having that ideal government for a short time. And in that short time of exactly one year he accomplished more than any other president in recent memory. The pundits were lauding his successes. When Scott Brown took office in January 2010, the Obama express train became a freight train, burdened down by the Republican ideology. His train was often stopped at sidings while Congress digressed and delayed...and obstructed.

    I am one that wish Obama would be more assertive with those mealy mouth Republicans. I probably would have been giving them the finger time and again. I have said that he plays "nice" with them too often. But then can I really put myself in his shoes to know what he is thinking? No, I cannot. We tend to forget that Obama is a product of a mixed race, and his upbringing in a racial "white mans world" as an African-American comes with a certain need to tread carefully. It's a fine line. Republicans would like nothing more than to pin the "angry black man" label on him...all it takes is one incident. As it is if he shows the slightest irritation with a journalist interrupting him, the headline in the Huffington Post will say "Obama gets angry"...while others on the right will start the media campaign of the angry black man.

    I cannot remember any president who has been so disrespected by Republicans from Joe Wilson's "you lie" to Doug Lambourn's "tar baby" and more. And he takes it all in stride. We may disagree with how he has compromised with the Washington establishment, but he is up against an immense power base that would like nothing more than to see him fail...even if it hurts the country.

    I appreciate the hurdles that he has had to overcome and am not ready to criticize his presidency so easily. Just think...we could have had John McCain and Sarah Palin. That would be my worst nightmare.
    A Heineken sounds good to me; you clearly described exactly what the object was of my frustration. Indeed a President has very limited powers.
    As I said before in many of my threads, this country is solely run by lobbyists and fear. The Washington establishment is only there to fulfill the wishes of the one's who scream the hardest and have the biggest wallets. Common sense is not a word which they ever used. Therefore I consider this country as a floating whale,which if it does not watch out may hit the beach one day and then wonder if there is anyone strong enough to get it from the beach.
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    Before we talk about the competence of the President we should define a standard. We have the standard, its call the Constitution The President:
    Article 2 - The Executive Branch
    Section 1 - The President
    Section 2 - Civilian Power Over Military, Cabinet, Pardon Power, Appointments
    Section 3 - State of the Union, Convening Congress
    Section 4 - Disqualification

    The section of the Constitution covers the election process, a job description and a means of being fired.
    I have read the Constitution several times over the past month and have come to the conclusion that over the years a new task has been given to the President which is not included in the Constitution.
    Section 3A – The President shall be held responsible when Congress fails to perform their assigned duties.
    The issues we face as a Nation are not covered by the Constitution. The Constitution is credited, by some as being “Ordained by God”. The Nation is defined as a Christian Nation, which is in itself unconstitutional as defined by the separation of Church and State.
    Issues such as “Birth Control” should not be taking up time in Congress or our legal system as they are views held based on religious beliefs and therefore not an issue.
    Do we really require all of the affirmative action laws, rules and regulations or just the acceptance that “All” applies to everyone.
    As the greatest source for tension in this country originates from a Fundamentalist Christian Belief no better example can be used than that of the Old Testament. The transition from Judges to Kings: God had provided Israel with a system of Judges which functioned quite well. The problem was at that time a King was required to lead the people into battle as well as tell them what to do. The cry came out, “We want a King!”. The people kept it up until they got a King. We have a Constitution which prevents us from having a King, but we have developed an attitude that we have a Supreme Leader that lacks the power of a King but is responsible for the operation of the Government.
    Section 3 is an important task for the President and one in which few, if any, have carried out properly. I’d like to hear a State of the Union message start out:
    The State of the Union is Poor. Congress has failed to perform their duties as prescribed by the Constitution of the United States of America. Our Judicial system has not only impinged on areas which are not allowed by the Constitution but have lost sight of the fact that the Nation is, as Abraham Lincoln put it, "a government of the people, by the people, for the people."
    Religious references are plentiful in the Declaration of Independence but not in the Constitution and our government is given definition by the Constitution.
    Our Congress has spent months fighting over making information available on Birth Control. Nowhere does it say “Birth Control must be used by all”. It says that the information must be made available. Should all of the legislation for affirmative action have been necessary? Wouldn’t it have been easier to just point out that all means everyone? In 191? legislation was passed declaring Native Americans to be Human Beings.
    If you don’t think we have problems, think again.
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    Schmidt Wrote: Dutch --

    You and I are not that different ideologically. I especially appreciate your international perspective on issues. I think if we were each asked to build our vision of the perfect government and had a clean slate to start with, our respective ideal governments would not be that much different. Well there would be one difference...I would stock the White House bar fridge with Moosehead and you would choose Heineken.

    The world is not ideal, however, far from it. The policies that Obama ran on quickly had to be changed as he inherited the worst economic mess since the Great Depression. And he had to put people in place that understood the system to avoid a free fall. No place for rookies. The criticism started at that point and never stopped. I honestly believe that his policies did indeed avert a Great Depression, but economists differ.

    In addition to a potentially catastrophic economic crisis he inherited two wars that had no end in sight.

    The economic recovery has been slower than he would have liked, but again I'll make the excuse that had Congress approved his Jobs Act, the economy would have recovered more quickly and the employment rate would be higher. That's not only my opinion...that's a conclusion from an in-depth analysis by the CBO.

    He was also criticized for pursuing his health care overall while all these other crises were in the works. He had a small window to achieve that goal, and it was only accomplished with some last minute arm twisting. He was criticized for not pursuing a public option, but an Affordable Care Act with a public option would not have had enough support. As it is, the ACA only passed the Senate with a 60-39 vote, just enough to pass the filibuster.

    Once Senator Kennedy died and Scott Brown took his place, from then on it was filibuster after filibuster in the Senate, even though Nancy Pelosi was delivering from her end.

    Okay, I know you know all this but the point that I am making is that President Obama came close to having that ideal government for a short time. And in that short time of exactly one year he accomplished more than any other president in recent memory. The pundits were lauding his successes. When Scott Brown took office in January 2010, the Obama express train became a freight train, burdened down by the Republican ideology. His train was often stopped at sidings while Congress digressed and delayed...and obstructed.

    I am one that wish Obama would be more assertive with those mealy mouth Republicans. I probably would have been giving them the finger time and again. I have said that he plays "nice" with them too often. But then can I really put myself in his shoes to know what he is thinking? No, I cannot. We tend to forget that Obama is a product of a mixed race, and his upbringing in a racial "white mans world" as an African-American comes with a certain need to tread carefully. It's a fine line. Republicans would like nothing more than to pin the "angry black man" label on him...all it takes is one incident. As it is if he shows the slightest irritation with a journalist interrupting him, the headline in the Huffington Post will say "Obama gets angry"...while others on the right will start the media campaign of the angry black man.

    I cannot remember any president who has been so disrespected by Republicans from Joe Wilson's "you lie" to Doug Lambourn's "tar baby" and more. And he takes it all in stride. We may disagree with how he has compromised with the Washington establishment, but he is up against an immense power base that would like nothing more than to see him fail...even if it hurts the country.

    I appreciate the hurdles that he has had to overcome and am not ready to criticize his presidency so easily. Just think...we could have had John McCain and Sarah Palin. That would be my worst nightmare.
    Thank you, Schmidt. You said that perfectly.
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    Ever hear "republicans and democrats.....two doors entering into the same room"

    You got to get past the smoke and mirrors.......it's all about power and money...and THEN maybe us.
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    wow.............
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    President Obama does not rule - he talks. Everyone else is getting in HIS way. He's the boss and sounds like -a victim. Every scandal is phony ? The NSA, IRS, Benghazi, among others, all of these are bogus ? Really ? Really.