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  • Democrat
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    Today I heard sarah palin say on a television program that President Obama did not know what he is doing as the President .
    President Obama has completed one four year term as President of America and has been elected for a second term. President Obama
    is a member of the five living U.S.President Society. Sarah palin is a governor drop out , a defeated vice president candidate and a tea party reality television personality. Why is she and the other conservative losers preaching propaganda that is only damaging their on creditibility ?

    I hope that the Rev. Al Sharpton will comment on this issue.

    Ellis

    June 17, 2013
  • Independent
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    For me it was a toss up between Obama and McCain a few things tipped the scale.

    1. McCain didn't know how many homes he owned
    2. When asked how much money you had to make to be a millionaire he said 5 million a year
    3. Sarah Palin

    My goal in life is to live long enough to vote for Joe Biden

    Now to reply to your post: Sara Palin put an end to blonde jokes.
    When questioned about filling the VP slot she became the exception and wasn't asked any questions. They told her if she would not say anything they would nominate her. Don't you remember how they tried to keep her away from the press during the election. They hoped she would bring the women's vote. I predict a Mexican VP next time.
  • Independent
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    Sorry to say that Obama is loosing it right now; since I've always been an independant voter, I'm extreemly disappointed with his second term.
    Of course his headwinds are the teaparty and a lot of Repub nutheads. However he seems to weak to go in against the "Washington inner circle" and tries to please everyone; which totally backfires.
    The stupidity continues; worldwide they start hating the US more and more because of its foreign policies and spying on them and then using drones etc. In the meantime here at home the expenditure goes to the wrong projects instead of boosting the local economy.
    The Obama scorecard is not good at all, for instance:
    1) No closure of Guantanamo Bay
    2) No strict gun laws
    3) Continuing the Afghanistan war
    4) Expanding wars, by getting involved in Syria
    5) The NSA happening
    6) The IRS happening
    7) The corruption in healthcare; protecting huge profits and millions for the CEO's of it.
    8) Continue to cater to all the wishes of the Pentagon and more, for useless toys to fill the pockets of the war industry CEO's.
    9) Immigration law; probably will be an half a...ss solution.

    Furthermore refusal to see the world through different "glasses"; everyone is the "enemy" in the first place, so we have to keep America safe, is the daily BS. Instead he should focus on hunger/education/ jobs world wide; people will not attack us if we give them food/ education/jobs instead of bombs, drones, spying on them etc. lately more and more countries hate our guts because of our attitude.

    The only reason if we are nice to a country, seems to be: what can we get out of this country, either oil or other resources for just about nothing.
    Who cares if there are 2000 dead because of our greed (Bangla Desh) We rather set up another base in Mali to kill some poor rebels who never even attacked us or know where the US is; just for the fun to test our war toys etc., may be if we irritate them enough they will indeed attack us; so we can then point our finger and say : "see they intended to attack us" What a mentality!!!

    No this country is on the wrong track and Obama plays the game along with the GOP because he has no choice or the guts to go against it. so whoever gets into that position will face the "Washington poisoned circle" which mostly consists of greed, power, me, me, me,, me!!!!
  • Other Party
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    Dutch you are right about Obama's second term being disappointing, his first term was disappointing too. Just expanding the war in Afghanistan was enough to get me off his bandwagon. Remember that President Obama did not just continue the war in Afghanistan, he made it much bigger.

    Things could always be worse: Can you imagine how many wars we would be in if McCain were the president.

    I remember what leftofcenter said...something like "it really doesn't matter who gets elected" and I don't quite agree with that, but I had such high hopes for this president. I know it's not all his fault, but still disappointing.
  • Independent
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    jamesn Wrote: Dutch you are right about Obama's second term being disappointing, his first term was disappointing too. Just expanding the war in Afghanistan was enough to get me off his bandwagon. Remember that President Obama did not just continue the war in Afghanistan, he made it much bigger.

    Things could always be worse: Can you imagine how many wars we would be in if McCain were the president.

    I remember what leftofcenter said...something like "it really doesn't matter who gets elected" and I don't quite agree with that, but I had such high hopes for this president. I know it's not all his fault, but still disappointing.
    Yes "jamesn" as always you are a great guy who sees things in the right way; keep it up!!!
    Another thing I like to mention, which is about the site. Quite a few members left and contacted me; I guess you know the reason. I slowed down a lot too and only dive into it once in a while. Pgr, left, woven, etc. all have moved to another site. I've not moved, but since I see little purpopse in an old ladies tea club, who only talk amongst each other, serves no purpose and does not improve this country. So I'll just try to enjoy life and hang in there. All the best Rob
  • Democrat
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    I just read an AOL headline that said President Obama is willing to enter into talks with the Taliban, any thoughts?
  • Independent
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    Foreign Policy is set by Corporate America and the 16 Intelligence agencies who must retain tensions in order to justify their existence, The President can not keep the promises made when running for office. The President is an administrator with the power to start a war with presenting a budget and delivering the State of the Union message rounding out his duties. Oh! he was the ability to call congress back into session, which he should have done on several occasions and didn't.
    Once you accept the fact that during the campaign few promises, if any, made by the candidate could ever be implemented by him, these are the tasks of Congress. If he did have the power to keep promises he would be a dictator. In the case of Guantanamo, which is a completely different set of conditions, is about our 16 intelligences agencies and the military. Once brought into this country the prisoners will have the same rights as you and I.
    If you want to knock President Obama your only grounds to do it is for making promises he had no right to make
  • Democrat
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    My only thought was to garner thoughts on the only promise that he has made regarding Foreign Policy that he seems to keep, and that was to seek, listen to any and all proposals from any Nation regarding peace in any war torn country.
  • Liberal
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    Dutch Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: Dutch you are right about Obama's second term being disappointing, his first term was disappointing too. Just expanding the war in Afghanistan was enough to get me off his bandwagon. Remember that President Obama did not just continue the war in Afghanistan, he made it much bigger.

    Things could always be worse: Can you imagine how many wars we would be in if McCain were the president.

    I remember what leftofcenter said...something like "it really doesn't matter who gets elected" and I don't quite agree with that, but I had such high hopes for this president. I know it's not all his fault, but still disappointing.
    Yes "jamesn" as always you are a great guy who sees things in the right way; keep it up!!!
    Another thing I like to mention, which is about the site. Quite a few members left and contacted me; I guess you know the reason. I slowed down a lot too and only dive into it once in a while. Pgr, left, woven, etc. all have moved to another site. I've not moved, but since I see little purpopse in an old ladies tea club, who only talk amongst each other, serves no purpose and does not improve this country. So I'll just try to enjoy life and hang in there. All the best Rob
    I haven't exactly moved on. I do read the currant posts from time to time but let's face it - why bother posting when you have moderators who don't support you but rather attack you for pointing out the truth? When (and if) the moderators wake up to the reality of who the "good guys" are here and stop acting like children, perhaps I shall post more often. I'm not holding my breath however ;(

    They seem to be more interested in whether or not you use too many caps, italics or bold type rather than what you have to say and i, for one, find that rather pathetic! They could learn quite a bit from listening to us "old guys" but then youth is wasted on the young, isn't it!

    pgr
  • Independent
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    pr Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: Dutch you are right about Obama's second term being disappointing, his first term was disappointing too. Just expanding the war in Afghanistan was enough to get me off his bandwagon. Remember that President Obama did not just continue the war in Afghanistan, he made it much bigger.

    Things could always be worse: Can you imagine how many wars we would be in if McCain were the president.

    I remember what leftofcenter said...something like "it really doesn't matter who gets elected" and I don't quite agree with that, but I had such high hopes for this president. I know it's not all his fault, but still disappointing.
    Yes "jamesn" as always you are a great guy who sees things in the right way; keep it up!!!
    Another thing I like to mention, which is about the site. Quite a few members left and contacted me; I guess you know the reason. I slowed down a lot too and only dive into it once in a while. Pgr, left, woven, etc. all have moved to another site. I've not moved, but since I see little purpopse in an old ladies tea club, who only talk amongst each other, serves no purpose and does not improve this country. So I'll just try to enjoy life and hang in there. All the best Rob
    I haven't exactly moved on. I do read the currant posts from time to time but let's face it - why bother posting when you have moderators who don't support you but rather attack you for pointing out the truth? When (and if) the moderators wake up to the reality of who the "good guys" are here and stop acting like children, perhaps I shall post more often. I'm not holding my breath however ;(

    They seem to be more interested in whether or not you use too many caps, italics or bold type rather than what you have to say and i, for one, find that rather pathetic! They could learn quite a bit from listening to us "old guys" but then youth is wasted on the young, isn't it!

    pgr
    Pgr, my excuses, I wrote this just to wake them up and take you and others who contributed to this site more seriously and promote this site in Washington (as I told Kosko a couple of times) so it is read there by the politicians. Otherwise we are indeed an old ladies tea session. But regardless of that, the subjects are getting a bit "old", over and over again and pls read my comments about Obama's achievements.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Has President Obama been able to achieve everything he campaigned on? No. But it is not for a lack of effort. Look at his full list of accomplishments that are a part of this website. The list is in need of updating for more recent accomplishments, but what really stands out is his first two years when he had Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House instead of John Boehner, who cowers to the Tea Party threats.

    Remember also that on inauguration day, January 20, 2009 key Republicans were secretly meeting on how to scuttle President Obama's presidency, and at least in the past few years they have been partially successful. Stopping the closing of Gitmo was a Republican success story and not an Obama failure. If Obama deserves criticism, it is that he "played nice" too long with Republicans. President Obama actually believed in his heart what Senator Obama said in his memorable keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention:

    "There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America. The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states."

    Read that entire speech and one can recognize that President Obama has been true to the words he spoke as Senator Obama. He could have accomplished so much more without being undermined by the Republicans using every trick in the book. So as Sam Stein reported in the Huffington Post:

    Sam Stein, Huffington Post, April 25, 2012: Robert Draper Book: GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration

    "WASHINGTON -- As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington.

    "Attendance at that event included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith.

    "When Mitch McConnell said in October 2010 that his party's primary goal in the next Congress was to make Obama a one-term president, it was treated as remarkably candid and deeply cynical. Had he said it publicly in January 2009, it would likely have caused an uproar."


    One does not have to be a political genius to understand how dedicated Republicans were to making their goal happen. An unprecedented number of filibusters in the Senate, a record number of nominations to posts and court justice positions blocked, a media campaign about Obama being an illegitimate president, and lie upon lie now debunked but still being pushed by Darrell Issa on Benghazi, the IRS, Fast and Furious, and any other fishing expedition he can cast his lot with....and blocking again and again any common sense jobs act.

    These Republicans are not "real Americans" in my mind, because they put their hate for President Obama above their love of country. What I find even more disappointing, however, is that many on the left have picked up on the Republican talking points without considering the facts. I support our President. I do not agree with him on every point, but he sure beats the alternative by a mile.
  • Independent
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    Schmidt Wrote: Has President Obama been able to achieve everything he campaigned on? No. But it is not for a lack of effort. Look at his full list of accomplishments that are a part of this website. The list is in need of updating for more recent accomplishments, but what really stands out is his first two years when he had Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House instead of John Boehner, who cowers to the Tea Party threats.

    Remember also that on inauguration day, January 20, 2009 key Republicans were secretly meeting on how to scuttle President Obama's presidency, and at least in the past few years they have been partially successful. Stopping the closing of Gitmo was a Republican success story and not an Obama failure. If Obama deserves criticism, it is that he "played nice" too long with Republicans. President Obama actually believed in his heart what Senator Obama said in his memorable keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention:

    "There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America. The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states."

    Read that entire speech and one can recognize that President Obama has been true to the words he spoke as Senator Obama. He could have accomplished so much more without being undermined by the Republicans using every trick in the book. So as Sam Stein reported in the Huffington Post:

    Sam Stein, Huffington Post, April 25, 2012: Robert Draper Book: GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration

    "WASHINGTON -- As President Barack Obama was celebrating his inauguration at various balls, top Republican lawmakers and strategists were conjuring up ways to submarine his presidency at a private dinner in Washington.

    "Attendance at that event included Republican Reps. Eric Cantor (Va.), Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), Paul Ryan (Wis.), Pete Sessions (Texas), Jeb Hensarling (Texas), Pete Hoekstra (Mich.) and Dan Lungren (Calif.), along with Republican Sens. Jim DeMint (S.C.), Jon Kyl (Ariz.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), John Ensign (Nev.) and Bob Corker (Tenn.). The non-lawmakers present included Newt Gingrich, several years removed from his presidential campaign, and Frank Luntz, the long-time Republican wordsmith.

    "When Mitch McConnell said in October 2010 that his party's primary goal in the next Congress was to make Obama a one-term president, it was treated as remarkably candid and deeply cynical. Had he said it publicly in January 2009, it would likely have caused an uproar."


    One does not have to be a political genius to understand how dedicated Republicans were to making their goal happen. An unprecedented number of filibusters in the Senate, a record number of nominations to posts and court justice positions blocked, a media campaign about Obama being an illegitimate president, and lie upon lie now debunked but still being pushed by Darrell Issa on Benghazi, the IRS, Fast and Furious, and any other fishing expedition he can cast his lot with....and blocking again and again any common sense jobs act.

    These Republicans are not "real Americans" in my mind, because they put their hate for President Obama above their love of country. What I find even more disappointing, however, is that many on the left have picked up on the Republican talking points without considering the facts. I support our President. I do not agree with him on every point, but he sure beats the alternative by a mile.
    "Schmidt" I'm disappointed about your reply; this is not the Schmidt I know; always possitive and to the point with great research.
    No this time you've only come with exuses, excuses, excuses. It is always easy to point. Just like little kids do; I did do this because Charly pinched me. No no no; it shows no leadership or the right insight in things. He's totally absorbed by the Washington insider mess and indoctrinated in that small pityfull circle. The latest mistake is the Bernanke stupidity, which he did not control. The effect is that the housing market which barely got a bit of footing is back to sliding instead. Smart thinking.
    Sorry read my piece again; if you can shoot holes in it, be my guest but do not just defend it by pointing at the other party as an exuse.
    No Obama is going downhill rapidly if he continues on this path; the only thing agree on with you is that the alternative is even worse, however this means this country is impossible to lead in any common sense way. I do not think that in 2016 this will be resolved either; so how long onwards is this incompetence going to last; I can not imagine that under 350 million people here there is not one brilliant person with leadership capabilities to be found.
  • Libertarian
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    I think you meant "competence", right? Which is something you obviously lack in your political observations as well as your spelling
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch --

    You cite these specific issues as being entirely on President Obama's shoulders as not delivering.

    "The Obama scorecard is not good at all, for instance:
    1) No closure of Guantanamo Bay
    2) No strict gun laws
    3) Continuing the Afghanistan war
    4) Expanding wars, by getting involved in Syria
    5) The NSA happening
    6) The IRS happening
    7) The corruption in healthcare; protecting huge profits and millions for the CEO's of it.
    8) Continue to cater to all the wishes of the Pentagon and more, for useless toys to fill the pockets of the war industry CEO's.
    9) Immigration law; probably will be an half a...ss solution."


    On the other hand, you never mention John Boehner's dysfunctional House of Representatives or Mitch McConnell's Senate obstructionism as having any responsibility or accountability for what happens in our government. We have three branches of government and right now the Legislative branch is the dysfunctional one...not the Executive. According to a recent Rasmussen poll discussed in the Huffington Post:

    "Just 6 percent of voters give Congress a positive job rating, according to polling released Wednesday.

    "One percent think Congress is doing an excellent job and 5 percent think it's doing a good job, a Rasmussen Reports survey found. Twenty-six percent rated Congress' performance as fair, and 64 percent said it's doing poorly."


    When I go down your list, I put the lack of closure of Guantanamo Bay squarely on Congress. President Obama had taken steps to close it and move the remaining prisoners to a high security prison in Illinois, but everyone of those efforts was blocked by Congress so effectively that Secretary Gates said during testimony before the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee on in 2011: "The prospects for closing Guantanamo as best I can tell are very, very low given very broad opposition to doing that here in the Congress."

    Regarding gun safety legislation, did you not appreciate the enormous political capital President Obama and VP Biden put into selling common sense gun safety legislation? And you fault Obama for not getting it done while ignoring the role of the NRA, the Tea Party and Congress? Is it President Obama's fault that certain members of Congress love the blood money from Smith and Wesson, Winchester, Glock, Remington and many other gun manufacturers more than they care about the children of Sandy Hook Elementary?

    President Obama inherited the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and he hasn't done anything that that he didn't promise as a candidate Obama...except yes that it has taken longer than any of us would have liked. But I could not find that he ever promised a date specific...only that we would get out responsibly. I won't argue the point. I disagreed with both wars from the get go, but it's a new ball game once you are in...getting out is much harder than getting in. Neither of us have all the facts to render expert opinions.

    Expanding wars by getting involved in Syria? Do you know to what extent we have been involved in this conflict already or will be involved? President Obama has agreed to supply some of the rebels with arms. Are we talking about small arms...rifles and such, or a military equipment on a much larger scale? You don't know that and I don't know that. We don't know what specific groups might be armed and to what scale. And should we? Does the American public need to know every specific detail so it can be debated ad infinitum on cable news?

    The NSA happening? I don't know what you mean by "happening." President Obama and the NSA did nothing illegal, and Congress was informed as much as they chose to be. Yes some people in Congress claim ignorance, but is it Obama's fault if they do not read the briefings? I certainly share your concerns about the trend for more data gathering and how it might be used by a "President Nixon type" sometime in the future. However, should President Obama shut it all down...or could he? I doubt that he has that authority, and certainly the next attack on our soil would be attributed to the lack of that capability if was able to shut it down.

    The IRS happening? Well if you believe Darrell Issa, then this is a vast Obama conspiracy to micromanage the activities of lower level IRS agents through a Republican IRS director appointed by Bush. But if you have paid attention to the ISSA hearings and testimony you will know that Issa has not produced one shred of evidence that implicates Obama. Issa is on a witch hunt and his own credibility has been hurt by making accusations that have proven false. Yet Fox News carries on with the falsehoods and innuendo oblivious to the facts...and of course some liberals too.

    The corruption in health care? Remember that part of President Obama's Affordable Care Act included cuts of $716 billion to Medicare...not to beneficiaries but rather to cut out waste and largesse. This is stuff that Republicans and Democrats both agreed upon at one time, but Republicans (Romney and Ryan) turned it against Obama and falsely claimed that he was cutting benefits to seniors. Yes there is fat (corruption if you like) but the Affordable Care Act is a signature achievement that is already benefiting Americans that previously were uninsured. What is totally ridiculous is the House repealing the Affordable Care Act 37 times. Obama has no control over that.

    Immigration? Again another Obama failure? I do doubt that we will get comprehensive immigration reform passed. George Bush wasn't able to either, and with certain parts of Congress ready to scuttle any deal, it's chances of success are low. President Obama has done what he can...even refusing to deport children of illegal immigrants, but Republicans are opposed to even that humanitarian gesture. Is it Obama's fault? I don't thing so. He is out there at town halls and universities selling immigration reform...but certain members of Congress are working behind the scenes to scuttle anything.

    The final point I will make is this. Any president that thinks he or she is going to get 100 percent of what they want is not dealing in reality. What I have appreciated about President Obama is his willingness to compromise to get some of what he wants rather than nothing. One of my favorite Senators is Barry Sanders of Vermont, a self described socialist. I love him in the Senate, but if he were elected president and had to deal with this Congress, nothing would get done unless he compromised his ideals. And as soon as he did that, the left would be expressing their disappointment in him...not the man I voted for...and blah, blah, blah.

    I will reiterate that President Obama has done a remarkable job despite the adversarial rather than supportive role of Congress. And that opposition by the Tea Party has less to do with good government but rather a bigoted hatred of our president.

    Finally you state: "No Obama is going downhill rapidly if he continues on this path; the only thing agree on with you is that the alternative is even worse, however this means this country is impossible to lead in any common sense way. I do not think that in 2016 this will be resolved either; so how long onwards is this incompetence going to last; I can not imagine that under 350 million people here there is not one brilliant person with leadership capabilities to be found."

    I would disagree that President Obama is going downhill rapidly "if he continues on this path." So what path are you suggesting that he takes that can change our dysfunctional Congress? President Obama is not a king or a dictator...and that one in 350 million brilliant person would not be any more effective as a president unless he/she had a Congress that wasn't intent on "stopping government" rather than participating in government.
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    "Schmidt" thanks for your elaborate piece; of course I fully agree with your explanation; those are facts which I do not deny. However what I wrote are facts too, which regardless of your explanation do not all of a sudden point to; yeah lets have a party!!!
    I'm not stupid and know that the congress is indeed only 6% worth; but why become president if you make all kind of promisees, which you know in advance you can not keep. I would refuse any such job for sure. My point to you as you clearly explained in your own words, is that this country is
    un-manageable. Therefore I state again things will get more messy if there is no sound leadership soon (either in Congress or Presidential).
    One thing which already shows how screwed up we are is the Snowden thing; now they try to manipulate (extord) HongKong to deliver this guy to the US as a traitor. Who was the one who promoted transparancy and honesty? Guess!!!!!
    No Schmidt this does not smell like Democracy at all. !!! Anyway I have total respect for you and fully agree with what you wrote, but can not stand it that a President plays along with the undermining "me,me,me,me" figures in Washington.