Tesla Motors Going After The Big Three
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jared that ..."affordable electric car into the mass market within the next three years"... is called the Bluestar and from what I read and posted about on the "free fuel forever" thread, it does not look as good as I first thought. Still fairly expensive, and still problems with range. As long as gas stays under $4/gallon, it won't be taking over the marketplace. It is somewhere between current Tesla models (high price) and the Nissan Leaf (low range) in performance and price. Still, one more choice for the American consumer is a good thing.
Tony About that Tesla stock: the old saying "what goes up must come down" is very often true with stock prices, not always, but very often. Wish I had bought a bunch of Tesla stock a year ago, but if I had bought back then, I'd be torn now about whether to sell and take the profits, or hold and get more gains. I hope that Tesla succeeds, but investing in this company is just speculating. Remember the Dot-Com bubble of about 98 and 99 when lots of companies were on the path to greatness, then they crashed and burned. I would not be surprised if several of them made 500% or more in a year.
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jamesn Wrote: jared that ..."affordable electric car into the mass market within the next three years"... is called the Bluestar and from what I read and posted about on the "free fuel forever" thread, it does not look as good as I first thought. Still fairly expensive, and still problems with range. As long as gas stays under $4/gallon, it won't be taking over the marketplace. It is somewhere between current Tesla models (high price) and the Nissan Leaf (low range) in performance and price. Still, one more choice for the American consumer is a good thing.
Tony About that Tesla stock: the old saying "what goes up must come down" is very often true with stock prices, not always, but very often. Wish I had bought a bunch of Tesla stock a year ago, but if I had bought back then, I'd be torn now about whether to sell and take the profits, or hold and get more gains. I hope that Tesla succeeds, but investing in this company is just speculating. Remember the Dot-Com bubble of about 98 and 99 when lots of companies were on the path to greatness, then they crashed and burned. I would not be surprised if several of them made 500% or more in a year. Jamesn, you are absolutely right; if you look at the figures; production numbers and sales and sales of the big three, then your conclusion is right. If you look for instance to Ford, their stock climbed to $18.- per share ( right now only about $15), while Tesla is right now over $200 per share. Sorry to say the whole Tesla hype is put forward by Musk only. Their base is still only 32000 cars while Ford produces millions.
Thus pure speculation. The other part of the coin is, if the big three are going to built a simular product for a cheaper price and mass produced, then Tesla will be left behind in no time and will be "an has been". So the game is as always, the one with the biggest wallet wins; it may be the oil companies or the big three.
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/01/news/companies/fiat-chrysler/index.html
Dutch,
You say the big three but unless you're counting Fiat, it's the big/medium 2.
I've not looked up anything on this topic, but if I were to invest in any auto company it would be:
1. Toyota
2. Honda
3. Hyundai
4. Tesla
5. Mitsubishi
6. Nissan
7. Anything European
8. Ford
9. Anything else Japanese
10. Chevy
Reason, Consumer Reports. Needing value I've checked that source over the last 20 years before buying any cars. This had me buying Toyotas for many years and last two Acura (Honda). Quality, lack of problems, resale value. I'd love to be a patriot and buy American but I couldn't afford the problems. I believe Ford has improved. I hope Chevy will as well.
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TJ Wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/columnists/mike-rutherford/9236338/Mr-Money-the-most-profitable-car-companies.html
Yes Clay Tesla is doing very well. Their big excitement is that they starting to sell in China. The article I just posted above advises the 20 most profitable auto companies. One I obviously forgot about is number 1 on the list, VW. It says that China is their number 1 market making 35% of sales there. My favorite Toyota is not highly profitable but I stand by my statement that their reliability is almost unmatched. Ford was number 2 in profit. Read the article to see who's doing what. I don't think Tesla made the top 20. That doesn't mean that they don't have a bright future though.
Toyota is a great car! I personally have own 40+ cars due to buying and selling alot, and my favorite has been Mazda 3. I have also ran an automotive shop for 5+ years with the intention of up-selling on every vehicle. Toyota Corolla, Highlander, Camry... Forget it. They hold up so well and when they do need work it's usually very fair priced. And with what they have been doing cosmetically the past two years, doesn't hurt them at all. Again, my personal favorite is the MazdaSpeed 3, I will NEVER buy another car again. It holds up great, super fast, excellent gas mileage, and looks amazing.
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Tesla is building a massive factory for making batteries. tesla.com/gigafactory The late '90s GM version of the electric car was sabotaged by big oil as about 1800 of them were crushed. In a series of maneuvers by big corporate Chevron ended up with exclusive rights to manufacture nickel batteries. The patent ran out in 2014, but it's my bet that big oil will try some legal shenanigans to stop Musk. ev1.org/ Here is the story of the ev1, a tale of how big corporate decides what you can have and what you can't. Our political system is totally subservient to these rulers of the universe. People need to wake up.
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