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The Government and the Environment

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  • Independent
    New Hampshire
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    Checking Email I found a new bit, from Duncan Meisel - 350.org <organizers@350.org> on the Government and the way things can work. "Who wrote the State Department’s environmental review of Keystone XL? Not who you'd think.
    State hired corporations to write big chunks of the review, and one of them is called Environmental Resources Management, or ERM. They make their money reviewing big industrial projects, and one of their past clients is none other than TransCanada, the company behind Keystone XL -- a fact that State did not disclose to the public when the review was released.
    Somehow, it gets worse. It turns out that ERM is also a dues-paying member of the American Petroleum Institute, big oil’s top lobbying group that has spent millions trying to get Keystone XL built.
    This is like the fox guarding the hen house, only instead of just hens, it’s the planet that’s at risk (hens included).
    We’ve played nice so far: already our movement has submitted over 1 million comments demanding they stop the pipeline. Now it’s time for us to prepare for the next step, should the State Dept. ignore the scientific and public opposition to the pipeline. We're working with the folks at CREDO, Rainforest Action Network and The Other 98% to prepare for a massive wave of civil disobedience actions if the State Department allows the project to move to the President’s desk.
    The effort starts now with a pledge of resistance to the pipeline. This is a commitment to join an epic nationwide plan for action, organized to be ready at a moment’s notice. Over 60,000 people have already joined, and a national training program will start soon to prepare thousands of people in the strategic use of civil disobedience in every corner of the country.
    Are you willing to join a civil disobedience action if the pipeline moves forward? Click here to take the pledge: act.credoaction.com/sign/kxl_pledge?source=350_20130530_kxlpledge
    Ultimately, President Obama will make the final decision on whether the pipeline gets built. If the State Department gives its OK, the President will have approximately 30 days to decide whether to grant the permit. The idea behind the pledge is to put as much pressure on the President in those 30 days as possible, with civil disobedience actions at locations all around the country.
    Organizing will get underway in July, when local leaders start weekly weekend trainings to coordinate community-led actions across the country. If you want to be a local leader, check the box on the pledge page, but know it's a serious commitment of time. Also, on July 17th, a sit-in will be held in the President's home town of Chicago -- a sort of preview for what President Obama can expect if this process moves forward.
    These actions will mean risking arrest, but 60,000 people have already stepped up because the stakes are so high -- recently Canada’s Natural Resources minister said that Keystone XL was the key to unlocking the tar sands, and just today a top Canadian bank said that $9 billion worth of tar sands investments are riding on the pipeline.
    That’s big money -- and we’ll need big action to push back. Pledging to take action and mobilizing your community is the key next step. I just added my name, will you join?
    Let’s do this,
    Duncan"
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Isn't the Canadian tar sands oil already coming into the country? I think the pipeline spill in Arkansas a few weeks ago proves that it is. And I have heard that it is already being transported on railroads through the USA as well. I'm not an expert on these things but I have heard that pipelines are the safest way to move this oil through the USA.

    If the oil is going to be moved through the USA anyway, and it seems that it is, would this new pipeline not be the safest way?

    Now the REALLY sad thing is that it seems that more people are ready to protest this pipeline than to protest the unjust war that has been going on for how long? 11 years? And cost how many lives? How many billions? Or trillions?

    I'm not necessarily for this pipeline but it seems very possible that this administration is going to approve it. If so, I will not be surprised, will you? Because it's all about the money and money nearly always wins.

    I would rather protest this useless war which we KNOW wastes lives and billions and can someone tell me what for?
  • Independent
    New Hampshire
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    I get upset about the dependence on oil. There is not a good reason for us not having a half way decent EV and the required service facilities in place right now. Sorry, there is a reason, besides a stupid and lazy population we have businesses that will do anything to keep the gas pumps.
    The talk about the safety of fracking are the same as I heard about strip mining a few decades ago. I was driving on a road in south east KY and was passed by a house. Water get between layers and caused at least one house to slide down the side of the mountain. It didn't do all that much good to the environment either.
    A very high percentage of people drive less than 100 miles/day it wouldn't be all that difficult to design an EV for that range. When the time comes to take a trip of several hundred or a thousand miles rent one that will do it for the weekend or several weeks. A hybrid will do it.
    The oil reserve numbers still come from the oil companies.
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    Nebraska
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    jperry I agree with a lot of what you say. Like you, I hate our dependence on oil especially imported oil. The economics of todays vehicle market do not make it feasible for most American drivers to buy hybrids and certainly not pure electrics which can not do the job. Unfortunately most shoppers buy the cheapest thing or almost the cheapest. Hybrids and electrics do not compete, at least not yet.

    I feel that the free market will eventually change this, making the hybrids competive. How much the government will have to get involved, I'm not sure. I am sure that right now the hybrids are getting there but are not competive yet.

    Fracking will be a bigger issue (and a bigger industry) in the future but we are fighting the economics of cheap gas.

    I still maintain that the war is a better cause for protest.
  • Independent
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    I really hate to be the one to point this out; but . . . .
    Cut Military Spending and end the present wars and what will the unemployment rate be? All you have to do is read the bipartisan effort to by the Tanks the Army does not want. Want them or not, they will get them.
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    jperry go ahead and point it out. Cutting military spending, and ending this useless war which should have been ended years ago, should be the number one priority of this administration and should have been the number one priority 4 years ago. Why isn't it? The money saved by ending the war could be spent on any number of domestic projects which would actually do some good for this country instead of wasting billions and so many lives in a place which will not change no matter what we do.

    Some things are more important than the unemployment rate.
  • Independent
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    The money spent on the wars is a good part of the National Debt. There is no money available for worth while projects. We either spend money that we don't have on Wars or we don't spend it.