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Buzz Aldrin says the human race is ready for Mars.

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    no kidding we have far too many problems here on earth to start spending trillions on trips to mars.
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    I disagree! I know a lot of people that I would gladly send to Mars!!!
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    pr Wrote: I disagree! I know a lot of people that I would gladly send to Mars!!!
    Mars is a good first step, but it doesn't have water and we need water. I'm just fine with us going to Mars and beyond, but I think the beyond part needs to be at the forefront.

    Just think if we spent the hundreds of billions of dollars that we use for war each year on space travel. We'd be colonizing planets outside of the Milky Way by now if we did that. But we are far too short sighted and think it's a better idea to waste our national treasure by waging war trying to figure out which Abrahamic religion is number one.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    pr Wrote: I disagree! I know a lot of people that I would gladly send to Mars!!!
    Mars is a good first step, but it doesn't have water and we need water. I'm just fine with us going to Mars and beyond, but I think the beyond part needs to be at the forefront.

    Just think if we spent the hundreds of billions of dollars that we use for war each year on space travel. We'd be colonizing planets outside of the Milky Way by now if we did that. But we are far too short sighted and think it's a better idea to waste our national treasure by waging war trying to figure out which Abrahamic religion is number one.
    Lets sent all the evangelicals up there as a one way trip and forget to re-supply that settlement. Amen
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    hifijohn Wrote: no kidding we have far too many problems here on earth to start spending trillions on trips to mars.
    Disagree. The money is there and the biggest issues that are troubling us aren't going to be solved by throwing money at it.

    We have a huge and diverse population, there is no reason that we can't address multiple topics at the same time.
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    Dutch Wrote:
    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    pr Wrote: I disagree! I know a lot of people that I would gladly send to Mars!!!
    Mars is a good first step, but it doesn't have water and we need water. I'm just fine with us going to Mars and beyond, but I think the beyond part needs to be at the forefront.

    Just think if we spent the hundreds of billions of dollars that we use for war each year on space travel. We'd be colonizing planets outside of the Milky Way by now if we did that. But we are far too short sighted and think it's a better idea to waste our national treasure by waging war trying to figure out which Abrahamic religion is number one.
    Lets sent all the evangelicals up there as a one way trip and forget to re-supply that settlement. Amen
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    Typical !! Lets look at it this way. First of all we did invade this country; killed off all the Indians; some time later we created our "national hobby" invading more and more countries on this globe; now we want to "invade" Mars. Who says we can just runaround the universe as well and just "invade" it; if there would be Indians on Mars we would kill those as well? Anyway who owns Mars? ( the Russians may have to run the supply shuttles, because we're a bit short on money by that time and claim that Mars is theirs) May be we should consult the Pope first before we get ourselves in trouble. Also do "earthly laws" apply to Mars? I have my lawyer check that. Are "gays" allowed to travel there? Can you bring a gun? or banana's? Don't forget your "beach gear"; it has a huge unending beach which you can polute with your " titanium lightweight" beer bottles and condoms.
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    Latest news!!! The GOP wants to sent Obama as the first person on Mars. They hope they can do that before the 2016 elections and asked Russia and Israel for help.
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    I am of two minds. I think it would be interesting. I also think that it will never be a place where large numbers of humans will be and that we need to straighten up the mess down here.
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    lonely bird Wrote: I am of two minds. I think it would be interesting. I also think that it will never be a place where large numbers of humans will be and that we need to straighten up the mess down here.
    What mess? You forgot we are a "blessed" nation and it is "god's will" that we ruin this planet and of course "it" approved that we can ruin another "heavenly" planet. At least I hope someone "drops" a "bible" there. ( Marsians learn Hebrew and English at their Marsian college.)
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    I just saw a story about the drought in CA; may a perfect training ground for a mission to Mars in the future. Lets make this planet first "livable" before we run out of water somewhere else. Ask the Palestinians, Iraqi's, Syrian's , Yemen, Sudan, Mali, Nigeria people first how they like their living environment. Money is better spent on millions of homeless due to our unending wars.
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    A visit to a site like nss.org displays some of the more wild-hare ideas about getting human civilization out into space. I listened to some of their speakers at a conference last year, and the rape and pillage of other Solar System bodies is not seen as undesirable.

    I much prefer the Planetary Society's approach, focusing on sending robotic missions with low-impact technology out to explore. And to do asteroid defense. Bill Nye is there Exec. Director.

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    awhitestl Wrote:

    A visit to a site like nss.org displays some of the more wild-hare ideas about getting human civilization out into space. I listened to some of their speakers at a conference last year, and the rape and pillage of other Solar System bodies is not seen as undesirable.

    I much prefer the Planetary Society's approach, focusing on sending robotic missions with low-impact technology out to explore. And to do asteroid defense. Bill Nye is there Exec. Director.

    Yes just sent "robots" we've got enough of them in the "army". As another suggestion lets plant a confederated flag on Mars plus a couple of Twinky's to see if it got ants there. All paid for by the "church" ; the "pastor" only has to sell his private jet.
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    hifijohn Wrote: no kidding we have far too many problems here on earth to start spending trillions on trips to mars.
    FYI, to reach any distant destination you would have to travel at nearly the speed of light . It takes several years to reach that speed at an acceleration rate a person could survive. It also requires ten million times the mass to be accelerated of fuel to complete the job. Then you need to stop which is another ten million and another ten million to take off to come home (yeah) and another 10 million to land . So 40 million pounds of fuel plus the amount of fuel needed to carry the other fuel. So ETI my remain lonely for a long time. Also consider how exact your landing calculations would have to be. Land to short and it might take years more travel to get home. Overshoot and you will understand fusion and plasm.
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    Humans aren't ready for earth let alone Mars.