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Bill Nye: Why Not Believe in Evolution?

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Bill Nye recently took his thoughts regarding religion and science to "The Big Think" and lambasted how cloudy the line separating the two is becoming again. Mr. Nye expressed frustration with parents willfully teaching their children things that are just not true and how when you have a population that doesn't believe in evolution, it inevitably moves backwards instead of forward. He also pressed for parents to not indoctrinate their children with their point of view regarding creationism and to let their children expand their knowledge in science and technology.

    In this day in age, I just don't understand how there is still a substantial minority of our population that refuses to believe in science. It also scares me that a vast majority of our representatives, from local to national, believe in the dogmas of organized religion and deny evolution exists. The time has come to let science take over in the public sphere again and people like Bill Nye will help make that a reality.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: Bill Nye recently took his thoughts regarding religion and science to "The Big Think" and lambasted how cloudy the line separating the two is becoming again. Mr. Nye expressed frustration with parents willfully teaching their children things that are just not true and how when you have a population that doesn't believe in evolution, it inevitably moves backwards instead of forward. He also pressed for parents to not indoctrinate their children with their point of view regarding creationism and to let their children expand their knowledge in science and technology.

    In this day in age, I just don't understand how there is still a substantial minority of our population that refuses to believe in science. It also scares me that a vast majority of our representatives, from local to national, believe in the dogmas of organized religion and deny evolution exists. The time has come to let science take over in the public sphere again and people like Bill Nye will help make that a reality.
    I guess the problem is that these people refuse to accept that evolution takes millions of years; churches rather believe that when the first bibles were written that the world started at that time. These people probably never went to the Smithsonian to see dinosaurus-ses or other interesting wordly artifacts which point to evolution. I guess you find no evolution in the stodgy church pews.
  • Liberal
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    Unfortunately, it's not a minority!
  • Independent
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    In what few times I have suffered through reading various Bilbes of the Christian faith, I have never once read about a dinosaur. Hmmm King James must have let them animals slip his mind. Well wait a minute, if Noah remembered to grab a few mosquitoes and yard moles, there is now way he could have forgotten old T Rex. Something is fishy about this! I get the feeling someone is trying to pull the wool over my eyes.
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    It may just be that the religion take on evolution is what is keeping the young from going to church. The evolution theory folder is one fat folder with lots of cool things in it. And some of those things contradict the OT stories. Adam was from Eve, genetics says so. A gen has to activate for a boy to be born, otherwise you get a sterile gal who is coded XY. And wins lots of medals at the olympics. And this, the genetic code that allows cells to divide is found in all multicellular life. So you do have something in common with that mosquito you swatted.
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    Why should we be so afraid to understand Evolution? We see it every day. Just open your eyes and you will see a bulb planted in the ground, suddenly sprout roots & leaves & buds, & become a flower. It has evolved. You will notice that a sperm in the womb gradually grew until it became a living baby which will again develop even more into a grown human being. It evolved. You can see a tadpole swimming in a lake & then it will grow legs & hop out onto the land & become a frog. It evolved. You can see a tiny caterpillar crawling on the ground, but later it will build a little cocoon, crawl inside it, & a while later emerge as a beautiful fluttering butterfly. It evolved. And a little chicken egg will later turn into another chicken.

    Then it becomes obvious that the Creator made the world FULL of Evolution. It is just bursting out all over. So why should we think that various
    species of animals could not have evolved also? We know that the dinosaurs existed, since we have lots of their enormous skeletons to prove it. But one small dinosaur species still exists (alive) & we see that creature every day. That dinosaur (pterodactyl) survived, & developed later into all the species of BIRDS. Isn't it amazing to think of them as tiny flying dinosaurs? They were the only ones that could escape the tar pits that mired down the huge 4 legged dinosaurs, & doomed them to extinction. Which proves another Darwin theory, Survival of the Fittest.
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    Human develeopment as it appears now has always shown a need for some type of Deity to justify his existence ,punish his transgressions and reward his good acts here on this plane of existence, no one knows the time frame of God's plan, the Bible says 6 days and a day of rest,who knows what a day is in God's place of being, the existence of dinosauers and other creatures of earths past just proves that when man was developed ,he was chosen above the other species to continue to rule the earth,not by brute force as did the dinosauers but by our enhanced capacity for compassion and reasoning, unfortunity so often some of these people subverted those capacities for their own sense of entitlement,granted the dinosauers ruled for untold millions of years and for whatever reason became extinct,and perhaps so we will someday become extinct, but I can include both theories in my life and the reasoning / causation of creation, both in the physical sense and the spirtitual one, I don't deny the existence of God nor do I deny the theory of evolution , they are both part of God's plan regardless of what so many preachers claim.
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    Care to explain why God's Plan didn't include him for more than 100,000 years of modern humans being here? And let's not forget that Neanderthal was here for 200,000 before that. They buried their dead with toys. Did we learn that from them? Sorry, but the Bible does not contain accurate info regarding our blue marble.
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    eternal flame Wrote: People have been taught Evolution for many decades, & by NOW it should be considered established science. The main problem may be that the "creationist" people have NEVER READ Darwin. They don't even know how he discovered the process of evolution, & that it took many years of ocean travel & investigation and research. Then there are those who think you cannot believe in Darwin and also believe in God. But that is FALSE, as both ideas compliment each other. And Darwin himself was NOT an atheist, but he mentions God several times in his book: "Origin of Species."

    Someone here said that the strict creationists believe that the earth was created about the time printing presses were invented? I am not sure I got that right, but something like that was said. Anyway printing presses were invented in the 1500's & then Bibles could be mass produced for the first time. But the Earth was created millions of years ago, & there were no people yet, much less printing presses. We had to go thru the cave man stage, which very few people have doubts about that. They were not monkeys, but the cave men were very primitive beings. Scientists can prove that we humans have 90% of the same DNA as the apes. That is a really big clue.

    Why should we be so afraid to understand Evolution? We see it every day. Just open your eyes and you will see a bulb planted in the ground, suddenly sprout roots & leaves & buds, & become a flower. It has evolved. You will notice that a sperm in the womb gradually grew until it became a living baby which will again develop even more into a grown human being. It evolved. You can see a tadpole swimming in a lake & then it will grow legs & hop out onto the land & become a frog. It evolved. You can see a tiny caterpillar crawling on the ground, but later it will build a little cocoon, crawl inside it, & a while later emerge as a beautiful fluttering butterfly. It evolved. And a little chicken egg will later turn into another chicken.

    Then it becomes obvious that the Creator made the world FULL of Evolution. It is just bursting out all over. So why should we think that various
    species of animals could not have evolved also? We know that the dinosaurs existed, since we have lots of their enormous skeletons to prove it. But one small dinosaur species still exists (alive) & we see that creature every day. That dinosaur (pterodactyl) survived, & developed later into all the species of BIRDS. Isn't it amazing to think of them as tiny flying dinosaurs? They were the only ones that could escape the tar pits that mired down the huge 4 legged dinosaurs, & doomed them to extinction. Which proves another Darwin theory, Survival of the Fittest.
    Just for the fun of it, I did write that when "writing" (not printing presses) was invented that from then onwards "bibles" etc. were created; certain religeous "know it alls" stated not too long ago that the world actually is only about 8000 years old and not millions of years old. I believe that all stories including the Noah story were halucinated indeed way after the dinosaurusses disappeared. Take Australia; it had its own evolution; all kinds of different animals etc. I Do not think Noah went to Australia and got some Kangero's. nor did he catch some polar bears I guess. Neither do I think caveman did have a stack of bibles at their campfire. So I guess evolution is a disaster for the believers.
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    Like many people, I believe in BOTH evolution and Divine Creation (which I would call Intelligent Design).

    One conclusion that I've come to recently is that the story of Noah's Ark is an absolute fairly tale, which you can read about at the link below.

    If you saw "The Life of PI", you'd understand that tigers and hyenas and zebras can't all travel on the same boat.

    If the average elephant eats 300 pounds of food a day, you'd have to stockpile 24,000 pounds of food for those two animals to travel together for 40 days. Since what goes in must come out, I'm afraid to ask how much elephant dung you'd have to shovel out to keep the bottom of the
    boat clean.

    Since both the North Pole and the South Pole weren't occupied by humans until around 1900, it's really stretching credibility to assume that one man, 6000 years ago, could travel to each place from present day Palestine and back all by himself with polar bears and penguins.

    If a guy was a pretty good carpenter, and had decent power tools, he could probably build a decent wooden fishing boat in a weekend.

    How long would it take one man, without power tools, to build a wooden boat over 500 feet long and 100 feet high? Probably a very long time, but since it's written in the Good Book that he lived to be 950 years old, he likely had a lot of time for his backyard hobby.

    Unless you believe that earth is less than 10,000 years old (and a LOT of people do) you'd know that dinosaurs got wiped out about
    65,000,000 years ago. For those people who believe that dinosaurs and humans existed at the same time, they'll be happy to know that you can view a statue of a dinosaur wearing a saddle at the Creation Museum in Kentucky.

    http://tohell-andback.blogspot.com/2013/04/noahs-ark-and-othe-rfairy-tales.html
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    On my bucket list.
    Go to Creation Museum, smoke joint in car. Wander baked through the museum not saying a thing or laughing, just marveling at the insanity around me.
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    Do I care to explain God's Plan, no I don't care to, I have a hard enough time just trying to understand the parts of scripture that I'm supposed to understand!
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    If you study the history of Earth there can't possibly be a plan outside of our own.
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    johnnycee Wrote: Do I care to explain God's Plan, no I don't care to, I have a hard enough time just trying to understand the parts of scripture that I'm supposed to understand!
    I guess your best bet is to use just common sense instead of trying to understand what people tried to push down your throat who still rode on camels and smoked dried donkey dung.
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    Dutch:
    That is what I try do, I apply some practicality to life along with common sense, after all I am not an Evangiclical type christian, I don't try to convert anyone,if someone wants to ask a question about my faith, I try to answer the question as best I can, if need be I will seek the answer for that person as well as for myself from someone who would know the answer, BTW, the last and only time I rode a camel was at a zoo during some special event or another, I thought the sucker was going to bite me, he kept turning his head and neck around and looked at me as if he thought about it and if he could reach me he would bite me.Maybe someday I'll have a camel steak and bite into him. Karma baby.