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Why people waste effort to criticize religions instead of enjoying their own

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  • Independent
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    I say why waste the time and hate enjoy your beliefs and share them with others in a positive way respecting others.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    What if others have NO interest in your beliefs?
  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    Why I criticize religion:

    Most simple answer:
    It promotes hate, violence, ignorance, and delusions. It has no basis in fact and causes far more harm than good.


    Religion undergoes the same scrutiny that every other aspect of my life gets and it just doesn't hold up. I would have little to no criticism at all of religion if people didn't try and pass legislation with it or use it to infringe on other people's rights or use it as justification for blowing up women's clinics, or tearing down skyscrapers, or protesting funerals in a effort to make other people second class citizens.

    If someone came up to me and said they believed in unicorns and they wanted to spread unicorn happiness, I would politely decline and be on my way with no criticism at all. But as soon as they wanted to teach unicorns in a zoology class or tried to deny rights to humans being with their delusions, then I will step up.

    I hope this answers your question.

    P.S. The unicorn thing actually happened once. To this day, I don't know if they were serious or it was a parody.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    But not believing in a religion or Deity has led some to wholesale slaughter of people,Stalin, Hitler and Pol - Pot to name just three,but as history has shown both the long ago past to the present day ,there have many more to numerous to list here.
  • Center Left
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    Hitler was a Christian. Without a doubt. He invoked God in all of his major works and speeches and even had "Gott mit uns" ("God with us") on the belt buckles of SS uniforms. He was a formal member of the Catholic Church and the Catholic Church backed him during his reign.

    Stalin and Pol-pot were indeed atheist, but their motivation in killing people was not their lack of belief, it was a lust for power. The exact same way that the lust power was Hitler's main motivation NOT his Christian beliefs.

    The only logical conclusion that one can get from the mass murders, genocide, and wars from the 20th century, or any other century, is that religion doesn't really make a difference either way. Religion is unnecessary for morality or compassion.

    The bad influence of religion that people refer to, is how it stifles people ability to think critically. When people start invoking God, people suddenly become slightly uneasy questioning the actions of that person on the off chance that an invisible sky wizard won't let them into a paradise after they die. If they invoke God well you can easily get a following that will do anything, like David Karesh or radical Islam. If you invoke God REALLY well, you can get entire countries to follow you unquestioningly (Medieval European countries, Nazi Germany).
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    johnnycee Wrote: But not believing in a religion or Deity has led some to wholesale slaughter of people,Stalin, Hitler and Pol - Pot to name just three,but as history has shown both the long ago past to the present day ,there have many more to numerous to list here.
    Not nearly as many times as God has commanded the faithful to kill in his name. Hitler did, the crusaders and let's forget witch hunts which left some villages in Germany with no women at all.
  • Democrat
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    My point was that any behaviour that results in the slaughtering of others is not restricted to the religious sects, the Old Testament and the New Testament is rift with the slaughtering of the unbelievers as were the acts of other tyrants who did not believe in any religion, the total is meaningless if one is trying to decide which one was worse, the killing of witchs was almost Karma like as the early practioners of Wicca sacrificed humans to their varioius gods, all religions seemed to exhibit some form of killing,with the exception perhaps of the follwers of Budda.
  • Liberal
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    Ummm, then ALL religions (or whatever you care to call them) are basically more interested in "selling" their particular version of reality instead of protecting the meek, downtrodden, etc, etc?

    it's impossible to not equate religion (any religion) with political opportunism!

    Sorry, Zach, religion & politics are one in the same ;)
  • Independent
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    I don’t think any religion should be criticized here or on any form. I do think that if a person or group professes they “believe” and “live to a particular standard” and aren’t doing it are fair game. The Fundamentalist Right Wing Christians claim they interpret the Bible literally and the only thing they know about is the Rapture, the Second Coming of Christ and reject the teachings of compassion, humility, and charity all the other traits which the NT says they should have. The interesting part of it is believers are told not to worry about as it is of little importance until it happens.
    I’m amused at how upset some become over the subject of religion, both for and against. It’s sort of like the “Big to do” we had over the Birth control. The law said the information had to be made available; it’s an individual’s choice to use it or not to use it. I never thought I’d see condom ads on TV so what’s the big fuss. If the question was put on the ballet: “Should Birth Control be made mandatory and retroactive for politicians? Yes No” How would you vote? I’ll bet a lot of people that believe Birth Control should not be used would would have to do a lot of soul searching.
  • Liberal
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    When you "sell BS" you should identify it as such! ;)
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    johnnycee Wrote: But not believing in a religion or Deity has led some to wholesale slaughter of people,Stalin, Hitler and Pol - Pot to name just three,but as history has shown both the long ago past to the present day ,there have many more to numerous to list here.
    Wow! And here I thought they were megalomaniacs. And it turns out they just didn't have morals because they denied Jesus. Stupid me.
  • Democrat
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    It may turn out someday that they were all megalomanics to some degree, but many did kill numerous people either because of politics or property,not just those that denied the existence of Jesus, in Iraq today and in Egypt , Coptic Catholics are being killed because they believe in Jesus Christ, go figure, the only common denominator in all of this is Man,horroribly flawed man, with his desire for dominance over others and his insatiable need for more, more of everything that is the problem, and the answer is so simple and so unattainable,this why we will always have some type of persecution by one group towards another.
  • Liberal
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    If I believe will I go to heaven? Where will I go if I don't believe?
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    JC, The answer is simple, but are you willing to give up your church and religion? Nope. And that be why it ain't simple at all.
  • Center Left
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    johnnycee Wrote: My point was that any behaviour that results in the slaughtering of others is not restricted to the religious sects, the Old Testament and the New Testament is rift with the slaughtering of the unbelievers as were the acts of other tyrants who did not believe in any religion, the total is meaningless if one is trying to decide which one was worse, the killing of witchs was almost Karma like as the early practioners of Wicca sacrificed humans to their varioius gods, all religions seemed to exhibit some form of killing,with the exception perhaps of the follwers of Budda.
    No one was claiming that violence restricted to religious sects.