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Mark Sanford's Day of Reckoning

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    The voters in South Carolina's 1st Congressional District head to the polls today in the special election to replace Senator Tim Scott's empty seat. Mark Sanford is trying to re-take the seat that he held before being elected governor back in 2003. That didn't end the way that he would have liked after he was censured for his role in an extra marital affair with his now current fiancé from Argentina.

    Mr. Sanford is up against Elizabeth Colbert Bush, the sister of the Comedy Central star. She has built quite a name for herself outside of her name recognition and has been leading Mr. Sanford in the polls for the majority of the race. If she is able to pull off the win today, she will be the first Democrat elected in the heavily Republican 1st District since 1981.

    Thoughts on if Mr. Sanford will win or lose today? And if he does lose, was it because he is a flawed candidate or was Colbert Bush able to convince enough voters that she's better?
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Early reports are saying Sanford won. I have not seen what the margin of victory was.
  • Democrat
    Tulsa, OK
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    It is looking like the Sanford margin of victory is around 54 to 46%. Not really that big a deal given the SC 1st CD is a GOP bastion. GOP leadership is cringing right now seeing how Sanford and his escapades could be a gift that keeps giving to us Dems during campaign season.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I was listening to some pundits and they feel that perhaps Ms. Colbert Bush suffered a cash flow problem and was unable late in the canpaign to compete with Mr. Sanford, it seems that once again the better person lost because of a cash problem, so the party won but the people lost again.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: I was listening to some pundits and they feel that perhaps Ms. Colbert Bush suffered a cash flow problem and was unable late in the canpaign to compete with Mr. Sanford, it seems that once again the better person lost because of a cash problem, so the party won but the people lost again.
    Yes it was confirmed the guy got back in; if this keeps going this way, how will 2016 look like, we better get our act together. Right now the Dem's get nothing done; budget/sequester mess, immigration mess, gun control mess etc etc. I either have to start a new party or move to Greenland or so. No these are not pleasant times for normal people who want the best for this country.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    How can a person with such a flawed character such being a liar, has been convicted of infidality by his own admission, has a weak moral judgement ability, be elected as a State Representive? Has our own moral standards fallen that far,next November elections can be very scary indeed, and with the picture becoming some what clearer over this Benghzi mess, the DNC may have seriously miscalulated the outcome of their Benghzi downplaying to help ensure the re-election of President Obama,I feel that if the truth did come out at that time ,the results would have been the same,only with a smaller margin of victory, I think the DNC didn't trust the base electorate to do the right thing, which to me is a serious mistake, and now there is a strong possibilty that we will pay the price for their serious error of judgement come November's elections.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: How can a person with such a flawed character such beinga liar, has been convicted of infidality by his admission, has a weak moral judgement ability, be elected as state representive?
    Just don't question that; these are the 2013 new morals just ask the other Repub's what their morals are.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    ..."infadality"... and ..."morals"...

    Those things haven't mattered to many American voters in quite some time. I remember President Clinton had some of these same issues and I thought he was a fairly decent president.

    Maybe Sanford will be a fairly decent Congressman despite his personal issues.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    In his speech he said that he believes that God has forgiven him and enabled him to have this second chance, I guess we will have to wait and see.
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    The party of morals seems to make them up as they go and swear on a stack of Bibles they don't apply to them. And the deluded ones(FoxNews fans) agree.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    GemsWoven Wrote: The party of morals seems to make them up as they go and swear on a stack of Bibles they don't apply to them. And the deluded ones(FoxNews fans) agree.
    Lately I'm wondering about morals all over the place; even in traffic and stores they get more annoying; slowly but surely it is no longer the good old 1950's USA. Only "money" seems to be the driving force; morals? What morals? or being nice?; if you don't like it too bad; like to see my gun?
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    I kinda like and kinda don't the look you get after doing a good deed. It's like your a dino lost in a time warp. But chivalry shall not die till this one does.
  • Other Party
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    Dutch you may want to consider moving. Most of the USA is not NEARLY as bad as the way you describe things where you live. Where I live there are plenty of of people with good morals and people do good things for strangers all the time. I have never had someone threaten me with a gun or even "show" me their gun. In fact, other than cops I don't know how many years it has been since I saw a person with a gun. People keep them in their homes or take them out to the gun range or to go hunting.

    If I lived in your neighborhood and it was half as bad as you say, I would be afraid to go out of the house.

    Maybe it is Florida. I used to work with a lady from Florida and she said the problem with Floridians is that no one is from there. They all come there from somewhere else, mostly New York or other countries.

    Yes money motivates people here like everywhere, but the ordinary people are NOT driven entirely by money. Other than our politicians, most people from my state do have good morals and are just doing their best to live their lives.

    You really should do yourself a favor and get out of there because most of America is not nearly as bad as where you live.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jamesn Wrote: Dutch you may want to consider moving. Most of the USA is not NEARLY as bad as the way you describe things where you live. Where I live there are plenty of of people with good morals and people do good things for strangers all the time. I have never had someone threaten me with a gun or even "show" me their gun. In fact, other than cops I don't know how many years it has been since I saw a person with a gun. People keep them in their homes or take them out to the gun range or to go hunting.

    If I lived in your neighborhood and it was half as bad as you say, I would be afraid to go out of the house.

    Maybe it is Florida. I used to work with a lady from Florida and she said the problem with Floridians is that no one is from there. They all come there from somewhere else, mostly New York or other countries.

    Yes money motivates people here like everywhere, but the ordinary people are NOT driven entirely by money. Other than our politicians, most people from my state do have good morals and are just doing their best to live their lives.

    You really should do yourself a favor and get out of there because most of America is not nearly as bad as where you live.
    Jamesn, may be you are right; where do you live? Indeed FL is a State which is inhabited by people from all over the place; Miami is closeby and a corrupt town, so that is the way it is here. Snowbirds come and go. But anyway where you live do you get snow? Do you have beaches?
    I used to live in Beauford SC, sure people were better there, but the taxes were much higher and the allergies more, so I guess you cannot win.
  • Other Party
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    Dutch no matter where you live in this country or any other country for that matter, there are advantages and disadvantages. You have to weigh the good against the bad, and make your decision, and hope for the best.

    I live closer to the middle of the country than you and we have four seasons but fairly mild weather overall. Not real close to ocean beaches, but large lakes have decent beaches, not the same but still OK. You have hurricane threats, here it is more likely tornados. I live in a decent sized town close to a major city, so I'm not out in the wilderness, but I enjoy a lower cost of living and less crime than many places I've been.