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AF Sexual Prevention Officer Arrested - this is lower than worm crawlin

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  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    I'm not surprised, but it's about time someone in control gets caught. Hope he gets an all female jury. Ever since the Navy's Officer party at a hotel where several female officers were sexual assaulted, groped and made fun of. Some would say it's the military way, pull up your pants and get over it. Most all of us would not want our daughters and granddaughters exposed to this behavior and if they are, soccer kick to the balls would be the least to accomplish. As I understand from the news this AF Officer has substantial evidence against him and being drunk in public. Well his career is over unless his Daddy is a Congressman and than he probably will just make General. The Navy promote officers like the time my Captain on the USS America, CVA-66 took out a pier at Norfolk bringing the carrier in without tug assist. The Navy promoted him to Admiral, go figure?

    The military has ignored press and media interest for information on sexual assaults for decades. Since they do have to answer to Federal and State or Local Law, they have their own US Military Law (United States Code of Military Justice, UCMJ). However, you are not protected under double-jeprody in the UCMJ. You can serve your military prison time and be released by the military on dishonorable conditions than turned over to the Federal, State and Local Laws for additional if not similar prison time. Harsh but convenient for these people accused of doing something they feel is above the law.

    This AF Officer is realizing he screwed up big time. Of course, he has his day in court, but first military court. Ladies line up for the gauntlet, this AF Officer will be paying his time.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    He belongs in front of a military firing squad (if found guilty, of course) for treason!
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    Send him out on a carrier and make him walk the plank. Old naval tradion.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    I heard about this on the news. The story said as many as 30% of the women in the military are harassed, groped, or worse. And they are typically made fun of the whole time. Isn't that enough to make you a proud American ?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    This is a much bigger problem than the Military and our media are currently reporting. The numbers of sexual assault within our military is just staggering. The Pentagon reported today that they believe there were 26,000 sexual assaults on female service members in 2012 alone. That number is mind boggling! Many female service members are scared to come forward and notify the military of an assault, so the number may be far higher than that.

    This most recent scandal brings to light something that has been going on for years within the ranks of our military. It seems like every other week there is another sexual abuse scandal within their ranks and even when the women come forward and press charges, they are sometimes thrown out by their male superiors. It's just sickening.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Well yes it's a big problem and it's been a problem ever since there has been a military, and an even bigger problem since women have been serving in the military.

    If this guy is as guilty as he appears to be, then he should be busted, thrown in jail, and given a bad conduct discharge. If, however, he has a clean record up to this point, and has over 20 years in service, the military has a pattern of busting people down one rank then allowing them to retire with full benefits. I'm not saying that's right, or that's what should happen, I'm saying that's what happens a lot of the time.

    If he has less than 20 years, then he's probably blown his career up and rightfully so, he should get jail time then be kicked out. If he has 20 years honorable service up till now, that will be taken into consideration. Maybe he was a war hero. I do not know. Maybe he's done lots of good things and this one terrible thing.

    Every profession has sexual misconduct, cops, firefighters, teachers, auto mechanics, and everyones favorite: catholic priests.

    But just on the face of it, a guy who was in charge of sexual harrassment training, to be caught doing this...well it doesn't get much worse.
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    Maybe if sex crimes in the military were transfered to criminal court the culture would change.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    This Officer will face charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Upon findings of guilty charges any military prison time will be determined by a panel of high ranking Officers. The least he faces will be loss of rank, and something less than honorable discharge. If the military finds it should give this individual military prison time than this person would be discharged after serving his time. After being released from the military, this less than honorable discharged person could face civil penalties in Federal, State or local law for the same crimes. Double-jeprody doesn't work for military coming back into civilian status. You can be charged and serve jail time twice for the same crime.

    The problem is much bigger and DOD needs to answer this harshly to all serving in the armed forces.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: This Officer will face charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Upon findings of guilty charges any military prison time will be determined by a panel of high ranking Officers. The least he faces will be loss of rank, and something less than honorable discharge. If the military finds it should give this individual military prison time than this person would be discharged after serving his time. After being released from the military, this less than honorable discharged person could face civil penalties in Federal, State or local law for the same crimes. Double-jeprody doesn't work for military coming back into civilian status. You can be charged and serve jail time twice for the same crime.

    The problem is much bigger and DOD needs to answer this harshly to all serving in the armed forces.
    My only problem with letting the DOD handle these cases is the fact that they do a terrible job of disciplining their own. Just this year Lt. General Craig A. Franklin threw out an Air Force pilots aggravated sexual assault conviction. Colonel James Wilkerson was convicted of this and was to serve a ONE YEAR sentence for his crime. That was just too much for General Franklin and he threw out the entire suit, reinstating Colonel Wilkerson back to his most recent rank. This is an absolute shame.

    These kind of tactics will only discourage women from coming forward in the first place and continue the status quo. It's time that the Legislative Branch uses some of their authority under Article I Section VIII of the Constitution and stop letting the armed forces dictate what they will do. The Constitution explicitly states that Congress makes the rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces. NOT the Pentagon.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: This Officer will face charges under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). Upon findings of guilty charges any military prison time will be determined by a panel of high ranking Officers. The least he faces will be loss of rank, and something less than honorable discharge. If the military finds it should give this individual military prison time than this person would be discharged after serving his time. After being released from the military, this less than honorable discharged person could face civil penalties in Federal, State or local law for the same crimes. Double-jeprody doesn't work for military coming back into civilian status. You can be charged and serve jail time twice for the same crime.

    The problem is much bigger and DOD needs to answer this harshly to all serving in the armed forces.
    My only problem with letting the DOD handle these cases is the fact that they do a terrible job of disciplining their own. Just this year Lt. General Craig A. Franklin threw out an Air Force pilots aggravated sexual assault conviction. Colonel James Wilkerson was convicted of this and was to serve a ONE YEAR sentence for his crime. That was just too much for General Franklin and he threw out the entire suit, reinstating Colonel Wilkerson back to his most recent rank. This is an absolute shame.

    These kind of tactics will only discourage women from coming forward in the first place and continue the status quo. It's time that the Legislative Branch uses some of their authority under Article I Section VIII of the Constitution and stop letting the armed forces dictate what they will do. The Constitution explicitly states that Congress makes the rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval forces. NOT the Pentagon.
    Who really cares? First of all in the military everyone is considered your enemy and you are trained to kill, so "rape" is considered less damaging because killing is approved so why not rape? So if that is no longer will be allowed, then rape the women of the "enemy", what difference does it make. We are the army and keep this country safe; quite a "true" statement!!??
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    In WW2, in Europe, we hung 90 of our troops for rape and other crimes. We held our boys to a high standard of conduct. In war, no less, but Nam changed that.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    I am very much in favor of strong punishment for our service men and women who have committed serious crimes. I don't think that anyone should get a free ride.
  • Independent
    Dover, TN
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    It's been a little over 20 years since I was in the Navy, and females were not allowed to serve on combatant ships. I served most of my time aboard DDGs and when we were along side a tender, many of those females serving aboard the tender were making a nice supplemental income curing the frustrations of many young sailors. It wasn't called assault back then, it was over looked as economics by all sides. The brass over looked it because there was such a decreased chance of catching an STD that they figured it the lessor of two evils. The women had a commodity that was in high demand, the males sailors were going to find this commodity, whether it was in some foreign port or aboard an American ship.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    It would be interesting to hear the "ladies" version of this maneuver!