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truth and justice is a myth in America

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  • progressiveconnie
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    Americans lost their moral compass when they refused to demand that Bush/Cheney and their gang of war criminals be hung for their war crimes and when America's legal systems refused to prosecute these soulless, evil criminals it left no doubt how corrupt these legal systems had become.
    Until these criminals are brought to justice we will remain a fascist, lawless, corrupt country.
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    It should be of great concern to ever American,the attacks and weakening of The Posse Comitatus Act. Bush attempted, Obama slashed it's throat.
  • pr
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    States have way too many rights as it is! I'm totally against states rights personally, this is the USA not some state, as far as I'm concerned. Other may disagree, of course, and that is their perogrative.
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    That's opposite of what I was taught that our government was founded upon.
  • GemsWoven
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    States rights so long as they don't tread on their constituents rights.
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    Perhaps, then, it was founded on the wrong principals! A huge part of the problems facing the USA is caused by States Rights. State don't need any rights other than taxation. We should have uniform laws throughout the country. It's absolute nonsense that each state can and does make it's own laws and regulations. It's political BS at its very zenith, in my humble opinion!
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    pr Wrote: Perhaps, then, it was founded on the wrong principals! A huge part of the problems facing the USA is caused by States Rights. State don't need any rights other than taxation. We should have uniform laws throughout the country. It's absolute nonsense that each state can and does make it's own laws and regulations. It's political BS at its very zenith, in my humble opinion!
    Then how we go about undoing pot prohibition? Or should we just follow the corrupt leaders?
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    GemsWoven Wrote:
    pr Wrote: Perhaps, then, it was founded on the wrong principals! A huge part of the problems facing the USA is caused by States Rights. State don't need any rights other than taxation. We should have uniform laws throughout the country. It's absolute nonsense that each state can and does make it's own laws and regulations. It's political BS at its very zenith, in my humble opinion!
    GemsWoven wrote; "Then how we go about undoing pot prohibition? Or should we just follow the corrupt leaders?"
    I can agree with pgr as to how and imaginary line can be the difference in law abiding and criminal. And the confusion that this causes. But the Fed Gov actually is granted it's powers from the States. The nonsense that pgr spoke of we tolerate because the system as a whole makes it much easier for the people to be heard. And issues such as the Volstead act can be repealed by a showing of the states choice whether to pursue Fed Laws or not. This we are seeing with marijuana prohibition that GemsWoven spoke of.
  • pr
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    GemsWoven Wrote:
    pr Wrote: Perhaps, then, it was founded on the wrong principals! A huge part of the problems facing the USA is caused by States Rights. State don't need any rights other than taxation. We should have uniform laws throughout the country. It's absolute nonsense that each state can and does make it's own laws and regulations. It's political BS at its very zenith, in my humble opinion!
    Then how we go about undoing pot prohibition? Or should we just follow the corrupt leaders?
    That is probable the best argument I know of for "States Rights". However I think the excesses far outweigh the benefits. It's true that one or two states can begin change, i.e. gay marriage & legalizing pot but at the same time look how a few can and have been able to block the peoples will, i.e. abortion rights & gun control.

    Somehow other countries seem to get by just fine with a central law making system. not to mention equal enforcement of it. It's absolutely nonsense that each state should have different voting regulation, motor vehicle laws, licensing requirements, etc. The system stinks but unfortunately, we shall never see it changed!
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    pr Wrote:
    GemsWoven Wrote:
    pr Wrote: Perhaps, then, it was founded on the wrong principals! A huge part of the problems facing the USA is caused by States Rights. State don't need any rights other than taxation. We should have uniform laws throughout the country. It's absolute nonsense that each state can and does make it's own laws and regulations. It's political BS at its very zenith, in my humble opinion!
    Then how we go about undoing pot prohibition? Or should we just follow the corrupt leaders?
    That is probable the best argument I know of for "States Rights". However I think the excesses far outweigh the benefits. It's true that one or two states can begin change, i.e. gay marriage & legalizing pot but at the same time look how a few can and have been able to block the peoples will, i.e. abortion rights & gun control.

    Somehow other countries seem to get by just fine with a central law making system. not to mention equal enforcement of it. It's absolutely nonsense that each state should have different voting regulation, motor vehicle laws, licensing requirements, etc. The system stinks but unfortunately, we shall never see it changed!
    I've said that many times in plenty of threads; Just leave the word "United" of the word USA; just make it the States. Like I said before there is more coherence in Europe than here, with the exception of the Brits who still have their "pound", "inches" and drive on the wrong side of the road. Therefore I think we can indeed blame the Brits for the mess here; if the Dutchies would have kept New York my guess is it would be a better place!! Ha, Ha.
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