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Another Shameful Day in America: Republicans Filibuster Background Checks

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    Just when you think our government couldn't get any more disappointing, think again. The Senate failed to overcome a Republican filibuster on background check legislation today and the legislation failed by a 54-46 margin. President Obama called it a "shameful day in Washington" and who can blame him for lamenting the inability of our Congress to work for the people instead of the National Rifle Association? What really riles me is that a majority of our Senators voted in favor of this legislation, but the filibuster rules in our Senate allow them to block any and all legislation.

    It seems as if our Senators have forgotten that terrible day back in December and countless others before and since. The fact that our Congress can't even agree on a check to see if you're legally eligible to own a gun is insane, in my humble opinion. The Republicans in our Congress have now unequivocally shown that they could care less about the 90 percent of individuals in this country that want a universal background check and more about their sterling rating from the NRA. How one organization with a few million members has completely taken over our Congress, and how the American people have allowed it, just astounds me.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Washington
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    We have a new feature on our website where you can browse members of Congress and view and sort them by all sorts of demographic information such as age, gender, race, religion, education, degrees, prior jobs, committees on, years in office, party, state and all their contact info including DC office number, social media websites (Facebook, Twitter, Youtube), main office website, personal website and links on voting record and positions on issues.

    You can use dropdown selector boxes to sort members of congress by various criteria as well including political party, state\region, gender, race\ethnicity & religious beliefs as well as select what information to display (demographic, education committees, contact info).


    Here is that feature in action as we created a custom list of all Senators who voted against the bill today with their contact info:
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  • Independent
    New Hampshire
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    Why is anyone suprised. The gun shops had trouble keeping ammo on their shelves. One shop said that if you wanted ammo get there before the delivery truck and wait in line. Many police departments are now low on practice ammo. For dealers and manufacrures the past few months have been great.
    The news had a story of a house in FL being broken in and 21 guns were stolem. They didn't take money or jewels only guns. If that had happened to one of several people I know they would have done it themselves so no record would exist of them owning guns. They would take the insurance money and spend 100% of it on ammo.

    Too little too late. The GOP and TP had been planning this from the beginning.
  • Independent
    el paso, TX
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    We already have backround checks , hello. This is just code for removing 1 more freedom. You politicians do what you want as long as you protect the constitution that you promise to. Why do you stay in america and complain all the time , just go to a country youll be happy with. And shut up unless your for freedom.
    Why does freedom scare you so much. Change your daiper and take a nap. America is here and not leaving.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I think that perhaps by constantly parading the victims and surviours of gun crime may have backfired because by appealing to our emotions might have taken away the practical reasons for background checks, throwing statistics around never really helped the cause either, numbers never lie,but you can lie with numbers,also there was never an honest debate about the issue because both extremes drowned out the conversation aided and abetted by the ratings driven media.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    To respond to the "we already have background checks", where are you from? You can purchase a gun off the streets, in stores, and especially at gun shows with no checks on who you the purchaser and the seller are. Just two weeks ago there was a national reporting by CNN showing reporters carrying hidden cameras at five gun shows in several states. One reporter ended up with three glocks and one AR-15. No names given, no identification asked, and no paperwork, just cash and bargaining for the best price. No wonder there's a problem with this. We already have background checks is a false statement. If it is a state law or Federal regulation, than several are ignoring it. We need gun control...period.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Even with extensive background checks,you will still be able to buy a weapon from the trunk of a car, just ask Joe Biden, he admitted that this legistration would have little effect on gun purchases,.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    But... Anything that slows down gun purchases or makes gun ownership difficult or expensive is preferable to what we have now! The majority of Americans don't want unrestricted guns anymore than the Second Amendment allows them. Gun nuts use the Second Amendment to support their narrow, selfish desires over everyone elses but they couldn't care a rats arse for other people's rights!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: To respond to the "we already have background checks", where are you from? You can purchase a gun off the streets, in stores, and especially at gun shows with no checks on who you the purchaser and the seller are. Just two weeks ago there was a national reporting by CNN showing reporters carrying hidden cameras at five gun shows in several states. One reporter ended up with three glocks and one AR-15. No names given, no identification asked, and no paperwork, just cash and bargaining for the best price. No wonder there's a problem with this. We already have background checks is a false statement. If it is a state law or Federal regulation, than several are ignoring it. We need gun control...period.
    Yes I saw the same report on CNN; as I said way before in other threads, whatever they do in Washington nothing will change except more bureaucratic paperwork may be. This whole background check thing is a huge farce anyway; question: how many of the 330 million guns are actually registered and with whom? Then we have also trillions of ammunition laying around which of course is never registered. As I'm shaking my old head again; I've never seen such a circus in my life; can you honestly with a straight face say you "trust" your government and of course the gun owners?
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    If you as a Legistrator can't find a way to do a background check without violating the Nations HIPPA law, then all this gun talk is moot, because the very people that this Bill/Amendment seeks to deny the purchase of a weapon is shielded by this Law.So, please Senators and Representives do us all a favor and take your dog and pony show to a venue where it will be appreciated,like the traveling circus with a side show, otherwise get back to work and fix the economy.
  • Independent
    New Hampshire
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    Jaredsxtn: The background check would do little prevent anything from happening. Today a person is reasonable and good. Tomorrow may be a completely different story. When involved in match shooting I had opened a small gun shop to help pay for the expense of buying a rifle, shotgun or handgun. I put match shooting on the same level as sports car racing, a challenge. My rifle was a bolt action and I found that even on rapid fire a semi-auto had no advantage. When my eyes got to the point that I could not compete I stopped shooting and closed the shop. An ATF inspector paid me a visit once. They said they wish large shops had as much concern for security as I had. The shop was closed not because of my eyes it was closed because I didn’t want to sell guns to some that could legally buy them.
    Most states have good laws, particularly on the purchase of hand guns, laws vary considerably from state to state and it would be nice if rules were the same nationwide but then there are many things that should be handled on a national level.
    A gun used in a gas station holdup can be legally owned or night have been stolen or bought on a street corner. A background check will have no effect on a good person but. In most cases where incidents such as CO or CT events occur the person was considered reasonable by friends and family. A background check may prevent a few people from a legal purchase but that is all. Why do we have so many nuts out there is a better question to answer.
    I’ve said it before, “Too little too late.”

    How many people plan something like the CO theater shooting for months before doing it. A backdround check will cover previous crimes and may take a week. Several years ago a person went on a stabing spree, my wife would take a bus from the area of the stabbings and may have seen the person that committed them.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    Go to JustFActs.com at www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

    You have little/no control gun control at gun shows.
    A gun show is an exhibition or gathering where guns, gun parts, ammunition, gun accessories, and literature are displayed, bought, sold, traded, and discussed."[90]



    * Roughly 2,000-5,200 gun shows take place in the United States each year.[91]



    * Gun shows "provide a venue for the sale and exchange of firearms by federal firearms licensees (FFLs).... Such shows also are a venue for private sellers who buy and sell firearms for their personal collections or as a hobby. In these situations, the sellers are not required to have a federal firearms license. Although federal firearms laws apply to both FFLs and private sellers at gun shows, private sellers, unlike FFLs, are under no legal obligation to ask purchasers whether they are legally eligible to buy guns or to verify purchasers' legal status through background checks...."[92]



    * In the three-year period from October 2003 through September 2006, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) conducted 202 operations at 195 gun shows, leading to 121 arrests and 83 convictions (with some cases still pending as of June 2007).[93]



    * A 1997 U.S. Justice Department survey of 14,285 state prison inmates found that among those inmates who carried a firearm during the offense for which they were sent to jail, 0.7% obtained the firearm at a gun show, 1% at a flea market, 3.8% from a pawn shop, 8.3% from a retail store, 39.2% through an illegal/street source, and 39.6% through family or friends.[94]
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Just curious, was this study done during the last Assault weapon ban and before the expieration date of the ban?
  • Center Left
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    Kosko,
    Thanks for the above links. I just called Sen. Portman from Ohio to complain about his vote yesterday. I gave my name and admitted that I was a gun owner from the state of Ohio who votes. I said that I was for gun ownership but I was also for background checks and that I thought it was sad that he's afraid of the NRA. I said I hope that he's not too over confident in the next election. I worry that when checking my name he'll see that I'm a registered Democrat and thus will ignore my message. Oh well. I did what I could.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    Responding to Johnnycee, justfacts.com indicates at top of their report it was revised 2/11/13, so it appears as non-ending type report.

    Another example is shown as how much money is coming from interest groups, such as NRA, for Gun Rights countering Gun Control efforts.
    From the 1990 election cycle through August 22, 2010, the following political contributions were made by gun rights and gun control interest groups to federal candidates:


    Total Donations Donations Percent to Percent to
    Contributions To Democrats to Republicans Democrats Repubs

    Gun Rights $22,467,579 $3,231,405 $19,195,400 14% 85%
    Gun Control $1,888,886 $1,776,310 $112,326 94% 6%

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    * In the 2008, 2006, 2004, 2002, and 2000 election cycles, neither gun rights nor gun control interest groups were among the top 50 interest groups donating to incumbent members of Congress.[137]



    * In the 2008 election cycle, gun rights groups donated $2,397,743 to federal candidates,[138] equating to about 1% of the money donated by lawyers/law firms.[139]



    * In the 2008, election cycle, gun control groups donated $57,919 to federal candidates, equating to about 2% of the money donated by gun rights groups.[140]


    This makes clear what we many of us believe what's going on. Just follow the money!