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The new gun hobby

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  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Yesterday someone in this area broke into a house and stole 21 guns which were in that house, they did not touch any of the jewelry or money.
    In other words a new commodity has entered the market. It seems to have become a disease, like collecting baseball cards. I guess no laws will turn this tide. Lately I have the strong impression that many households have many more guns than food on the table.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    I have heard some people say that President Obama is the best thing to happen for gun and ammo sales. It seems to be all too true.

    Lots of Americans are clinging to their guns and religion.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    I live in a small town. Crime ? Yea we have some crime but not too much. I have one small shot gun but no obsession with getting more and no fear of life without guns. The people who are intent on stock piling guns and ammo are living a sad life in my opinion. Get a fence, lock the doors, get a dog, move out of the big city, get a home security system...... if you're worried about the president making decisions that threaten your guns, you are a little too dependant on guns in your life.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Some people are buying them for one reason and one reason only: they think they may be outlawed in the future. I talked to a guy right after Sandy Hook and he was unhappy that our local sporting good store was sold out of AR-15's. He wanted one because he thought new AR-15's may be outlawed in the future. He fully admitted that he did not need it.

    Supply and demand. If there was talk of 4 wheel drive pick ups being banned in the future then sales would go up. Dealers would run out of them and the companies would not be able to make them fast enough. Same with guns or any other product. Talk of banning a product will increase the demand for the product.
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    TJ Wrote: I live in a small town. Crime ? Yea we have some crime but not too much. I have one small shot gun but no obsession with getting more and no fear of life without guns. The people who are intent on stock piling guns and ammo are living a sad life in my opinion. Get a fence, lock the doors, get a dog, move out of the big city, get a home security system...... if you're worried about the president making decisions that threaten your guns, you are a little too dependant on guns in your life.
    A ladies shotgun is the perfect home defense.
  • Independent
    Dover, TN
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    Not all that have a large quantity of firearms are fanatics. Sometimes the quantity comes with no intent. I've never sold a firearm, may have trade a firearm for another, and only purchased new from a store maybe 20 firearms. Many of those purchases were to replace firearms that I have lost due to 3 break ins over the last 20 years. My quantity has come from family or friends needing a loan and using a firearm as collateral. Or just selling it out right for money to pay urgent bills. I see this as no intent to gain a mass quantity such as what a fanatic would. But many would be quick to label me as one just because I own greater than 50 firearms. I'm not willing to say an exact number, because I feel that's private info not suitable for the internet.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Boone Wrote: Not all that have a large quantity of firearms are fanatics. Sometimes the quantity comes with no intent. I've never sold a firearm, may have trade a firearm for another, and only purchased new from a store maybe 20 firearms. Many of those purchases were to replace firearms that I have lost due to 3 break ins over the last 20 years. My quantity has come from family or friends needing a loan and using a firearm as collateral. Or just selling it out right for money to pay urgent bills. I see this as no intent to gain a mass quantity such as what a fanatic would. But many would be quick to label me as one just because I own greater than 50 firearms. I'm not willing to say an exact number, because I feel that's private info not suitable for the internet.
    Sorry Boone; may be I'm a stupid Dutchman but I am at a loss why you need more than 50 guns to be happy. I would love to have 50 Ferrari's but would not know where to drive them every day. Guns are not toys; they are made to kill. Especially in the wrong hands; So I absolutely do not see why you need those. It is not something you wear or use every day. Unless you are a dealer then I can imagine you need some stock.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    More than 50 guns and you don't think you have a problem!?
  • Independent
    Dover, TN
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    Like I stated in my post. I never intended to purchase most. They were collateral for loans and such. Yes sometimes a friend will come to me with a sad story and want to sell the firearm for a few more dollars than the pawn shop will pay. I have never sold a firearm in my life, so they have just accumulated over time. I have 4 guns that I hunt with. They were all purchased for that intent, all the others are locked away. They don't eat or drink, so they cost me nothing and their value continues to rise. Better investment than most. The only military rifles I have are from WW2 or before and only own two handguns. The only time that I'm armed is if hunting. I do not carry just to be in possession. So NO I do not feel that I have a problem. And YOU should be great full for people like me. They could have been sold to pawn shops where many end up on the streets in criminal hands. They ones I possess are locked away and over 90% of them have not been fired since they came into my possess.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    Boone,
    You have every right to have 50, 70, or 100 fire arms. Myself, I wouldn't have anywhere to store them all. I would suggest that you consider selling 10 or 30 or 40. Keep your favorite 20 or 30.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Why should anyone care how many guns a person owns if they are a responsible owner who keeps them locked away? People collect and invest in ALL kinds of things.

    If it is legal, and if they are increasing in value, maybe it's safer to invest in guns than the stock market!
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    What happens when you are robbed or you're physically incapable of guarding your guns? Perhaps a better choice might be destroying them?
    How can you be sure that just because you are a responsible gun owner your guns will all be handled responsibly by others?
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Good points pgr but if we are in the hypothetical, there are lots of possibilities. Like boone said, they could go to a pawn shop and end up in other, less responsible hands. Maybe he could take them to a gun show, or have a garage sale and just sell them to whoever walks up with the cash. Destroying them would not really accomplish much, not compared to the 300 million in existence. Just like the police "buy back" programs...the action makes some people feel good but doesn't really do anything to solve the problem.


    There are no guarantees in life. As long as he's able to keep them secured, then that's probably the best place for them.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Boone Wrote: Like I stated in my post. I never intended to purchase most. They were collateral for loans and such. Yes sometimes a friend will come to me with a sad story and want to sell the firearm for a few more dollars than the pawn shop will pay. I have never sold a firearm in my life, so they have just accumulated over time. I have 4 guns that I hunt with. They were all purchased for that intent, all the others are locked away. They don't eat or drink, so they cost me nothing and their value continues to rise. Better investment than most. The only military rifles I have are from WW2 or before and only own two handguns. The only time that I'm armed is if hunting. I do not carry just to be in possession. So NO I do not feel that I have a problem. And YOU should be great full for people like me. They could have been sold to pawn shops where many end up on the streets in criminal hands. They ones I possess are locked away and over 90% of them have not been fired since they came into my possess.
    Boone the point I'm trying to make is; if you can do it everyone can do it; may be you are sound of mind; may be the others you deal with are not.
    I do understand what you are saying, but I guess you have to agree with me if every household would be loaded with guns, what kind of society are we living in? No one would dare to honk his horn because he will be shot on the spot; all tolerance is already just about disappeared in this country. So, I smile to every one I see, so that they do not shoot me, just in case!!!
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    As long as this Nation does not make mental illness a priority we will always have a small minority(the mentally ill) dictating the policy for the majority, unfortunitly in todays paper,local that is, it was found out that quite a few children were diagnosed as ADHD who wern't ADHD, but were merely bored in class, so right away drugs were prescribed and taken by these children,now did the Doctors just try to cover their ass's because they didn't know why Johnny couldn't pay attention in class,or was it to satisfy some drug corporation. It seems that our mental health issues are like our own crazy old uncle, we just humor and ignore him because he is harmless until he does something really weird, then of course ,all hell breaks loose,with finger pointing, and ignored telltale signs,etc,etc. Is it any wonder why supposedly sane people take extra precautions to prevent becoming a statisic from one of these rampages. If this Nation ever does make mental Illness a priority and less than a stigma, maybe, perhaps we could prevent another mass killing.