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Pew: Majority of Americans Favor Legalizing Marijuana

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pew Research released a poll today that showed a majority of Americans believe that Marijuana should be legalized, marking the first time in the polls history where over 50 percent of Americans believe so. Americans are for legalization by seven percentage points, 52-45 percent. Even more astounding is the 72 percent of Americans that say the price society pays to keep marijuana illegal is not worth the cost that the federal government spends on doing so.

    I'm of the belief that the number of American's that are for decriminalization and/or legalization will only increase, just the same that proponents of gay marriage have seen a sea change in public opinion in recent years. More and more Americans are starting to wake up to the unjust drug laws that are on the books. People are starting to ask if the price we pay as a society to keep a naturally growing plant illegal is worth the cost. The billions that we spend on enforcement. The billions that we spend on housing these non violent "criminals," who then walk out of prison with a masters degree in hard drugs. The billions that we spend year in and year out. My only question is: for what? Why do we continue to do this?

    An odd marriage of libertarians and progressives has formed on this issue. As much as I disagree with libertarians on nearly everything under the sun, I will agree with them here. Our drug laws are outdated and are costing our society billions of dollars because no one has enough guts to stand up and scream that they make absolutely zero sense. My only hope is that a change in public opinion will force our government to start re-thinking these unjust drug laws that we have.

    I'm not overly optimistic that things will change over night. I'm all too aware of the forces that want to keep the drug laws exactly as they are. Private prisons, DEA Agents, lawyers that are all too happy to get paid representing non-violent criminals, etc. The list is endless as to who BENEFITS from our current drug laws. All the while, the American people are the ones that are left with the short end of the stick.


    Here's a link to the Pew Research Poll: http://www.people-press.org/2013/04/04/majority-now-supports-legalizing-marijuana/
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    Legalization is kinda like gravity.
  • Center Left
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    I too think that it's just a matter of time. The 90 year olds who never tried it but read all of the hype are still affraid of it but are dwindling in numbers. It's not just about the wasted money and wasted lives in prison.... It's making an accurate evaluation of the situation. I think Washington state and Colorado brought down a very old wall. It will be interesting to see how they proceed over the next few years. Public sentiment is a very important factor.
  • Independent
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    First we as a society are going to have to come to terms, that some people are going to use drugs. It's a fact that the so called war on drugs has proven. Usage rates have changed very little since Mr Nixon and his bright idea came into effect.
    Second we are going to have to be more fact based in our teaching. The media hype that started with reefer madness and continues today, is not based on truth, rather it's based upon LE appeals to gain more funding.
    It irritates me to hear some LE make comments like "XXXX the most highly addictive drug known". Addiction is a medical condition that XXXX LE has no business trying to treat/cure. Addiction has not and will never be treatable by jurisprudence.
    We have a new generation of young adults, that have learned to distrust the Gov to a degree and ask more questions. Before the internet one was only to believe what the nightly news had to offer. Now there is a wealth of information, not all fact, at the finger tips. The questions are being raised now and the light at the end of the tunnel is coming for marijuana. As with the Volstead Act, these laws will be changed when the state governments stop enforcing Federal Laws.
    The largest obstacle is the one that clouds so many politicians eyes $$$$. There is a gigantic private industry that has grown up camo-ed by the War on Drugs. This is a multi-billion dollar industry from the LE and prisons all the way down to the drug test kit sold at the local pharmacy. Well the largest may be getting the Government to admit they were wrong all these years and purposely mislead us.
    Harm reduction is the word I hear a lot now. It is stated to take into account the harm upon the person, family, public health and many more and come to some consensus on the best approach. I'm unaware if this is the right path to chose, but I'm fully aware that are approach as it is now is a colossal failure.
    By definition tobacco is a schedule 1 controlled drug, high affinity for abuse and no known medical use. But yet it's legal today. Highly taxed and regulated but legal. I wish I could say that this is because for once our law makers could that a prohibition of tobacco would be as great a folly as it was with alcohol. But that's not the case, the almighty $$$$ is why tobacco is legal.
    Make marijuana legal tomorrow and you'll never have to worry about me smoking it. Yes I've tried it, even inhaled, it's just not for me. Nope I did not become a bat and fly around my office, such as one of the men that testified before Congress in 1937. I just become very unmotivated unless it's to the fridge or local convenience store for more snacks. But I do know daily smokers who function quite well in society. Basically those that are going to smoke pot already do and the ones that don't, don't. So why should we send those tax paying family supporting Americans to jail?
  • Independent
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    Boone Wrote: First we as a society are going to have to come to terms, that some people are going to use drugs. It's a fact that the so called war on drugs has proven. Usage rates have changed very little since Mr Nixon and his bright idea came into effect.
    Second we are going to have to be more fact based in our teaching. The media hype that started with reefer madness and continues today, is not based on truth, rather it's based upon LE appeals to gain more funding.
    It irritates me to hear some LE make comments like "XXXX the most highly addictive drug known". Addiction is a medical condition that XXXX LE has no business trying to treat/cure. Addiction has not and will never be treatable by jurisprudence.
    We have a new generation of young adults, that have learned to distrust the Gov to a degree and ask more questions. Before the internet one was only to believe what the nightly news had to offer. Now there is a wealth of information, not all fact, at the finger tips. The questions are being raised now and the light at the end of the tunnel is coming for marijuana. As with the Volstead Act, these laws will be changed when the state governments stop enforcing Federal Laws.
    The largest obstacle is the one that clouds so many politicians eyes $$$$. There is a gigantic private industry that has grown up camo-ed by the War on Drugs. This is a multi-billion dollar industry from the LE and prisons all the way down to the drug test kit sold at the local pharmacy. Well the largest may be getting the Government to admit they were wrong all these years and purposely mislead us.
    Harm reduction is the word I hear a lot now. It is stated to take into account the harm upon the person, family, public health and many more and come to some consensus on the best approach. I'm unaware if this is the right path to chose, but I'm fully aware that are approach as it is now is a colossal failure.
    By definition tobacco is a schedule 1 controlled drug, high affinity for abuse and no known medical use. But yet it's legal today. Highly taxed and regulated but legal. I wish I could say that this is because for once our law makers could that a prohibition of tobacco would be as great a folly as it was with alcohol. But that's not the case, the almighty $$$$ is why tobacco is legal.
    Make marijuana legal tomorrow and you'll never have to worry about me smoking it. Yes I've tried it, even inhaled, it's just not for me. Nope I did not become a bat and fly around my office, such as one of the men that testified before Congress in 1937. I just become very unmotivated unless it's to the fridge or local convenience store for more snacks. But I do know daily smokers who function quite well in society. Basically those that are going to smoke pot already do and the ones that don't, don't. So why should we send those tax paying family supporting Americans to jail?
    As you know it is legal in the Netherlands; the real effect is that hardly any local people use the stuff; why? Because the same as with prohabition; if you are not allowed to have it then everyone wants it. Once it is legal no one wants it. (Only nutty American tourists!) Anyway it did boost the Amsterdam city coffers, so thank you guys!!!
  • Other Party
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    ..."Only nutty American tourists!"... That's not what I saw. I saw LOTS of different people using it. Americans yes and also nutty Dutch people, nutty Germans, nutty French...LOTS of nutty people!
  • Center Left
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    jamesn Wrote: ..."Only nutty American tourists!"... That's not what I saw. I saw LOTS of different people using it. Americans yes and also nutty Dutch people, nutty Germans, nutty French...LOTS of nutty people!
    It's all about money. I think the evil force causing such wide based usage by all is the pastry industry. That and the cheese lobby.
  • Other Party
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    and Doritoes and pizza and Cheetoes! You are right, the junk food industry would lose a BIG portion of their business if weed were to be wiped out. and ding dongs, and twinkies, and ho ho's, and...
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    The ironic thing that doesn't even get mentioned in the media is this. The Coors family is the big money givers to the prohibition cause and their state was the first to end prohibition. CO polls ended before WA polls did.
  • Independent
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    jamesn Wrote: ..."Only nutty American tourists!"... That's not what I saw. I saw LOTS of different people using it. Americans yes and also nutty Dutch people, nutty Germans, nutty French...LOTS of nutty people!
    Please realize I said it as to "tickle" you; sure it boils down to making some money, why not?
  • Independent
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    I believe better studies will come from Portugal and soon to be Columbia. Many drugs are still illegal in the Netherlands they just chose not to heed strict adherence to those laws. Within the next few years most of the Latin American Countries will be decriminalizing possession of small amounts. Our war on drugs has reeked havoc on their societies. They have began to call for change in America's War on Drugs.
  • Center Left
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    If you look at the Pew numbers in the link above, it was surprising that the strongest demographic was young people. I would have thought it would have been the 45 - 65 group who was immersed in it during the 70's. These days, people work hard and want to come home and relax. Not everybody drinks beer. I think that marijuana is the beer of drugs.
  • Other Party
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    Dutch Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: ..."Only nutty American tourists!"... That's not what I saw. I saw LOTS of different people using it. Americans yes and also nutty Dutch people, nutty Germans, nutty French...LOTS of nutty people!
    Please realize I said it as to "tickle" you; sure it boils down to making some money, why not?
    Dutch you can "tickle" or "needle" me and unlike some others I won't take it too seriously. I'll just respond in kind. I can take it and I can dish it out, no harm no foul.

    But...some people may not have been to the Netherlands and may actually think that ..."only nutty American tourists"... partake of the weed in your fine country. YOU know better and I know better, but some may not.

    Yes always always always follow the money...
  • Independent
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    jamesn Wrote:
    Dutch Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: ..."Only nutty American tourists!"... That's not what I saw. I saw LOTS of different people using it. Americans yes and also nutty Dutch people, nutty Germans, nutty French...LOTS of nutty people!
    Please realize I said it as to "tickle" you; sure it boils down to making some money, why not?
    Dutch you can "tickle" or "needle" me and unlike some others I won't take it too seriously. I'll just respond in kind. I can take it and I can dish it out, no harm no foul.

    But...some people may not have been to the Netherlands and may actually think that ..."only nutty American tourists"... partake of the weed in your fine country. YOU know better and I know better, but some may not.

    Yes always always always follow the money...
    Jamesn; As always you are a great guy and you do appreciate some sarcastic humor, so hang in there; do not take me always too serious; this is just to get discussions going. Enjoy; you've got a great mind set!!!
  • Center Left
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    Seattle budding economy, Pot tourism CNN story

    (crazy story)


    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/06/travel/marijuana-tourism-seattle/index.html?eref=mrss_igoogle_cnn