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NRA School Safety Report: More Guns in Schools!

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    The NRA released its long awaited National School Shield recommendations today and surprise, surprise--we don't have enough guns in our schools and the law is just too burdensome already, so let's relax some gun restriction standards that are already on the books. That's what Former Rep. Asa Hutchison and his twelve person task force recommended when he rolled out their plan at a news conference today. This proposal, if enacted, will virtually eliminate gun-free school zones in their entirety.

    My entire issue with this proposal is that it does not address the fact that there has already been multiple school shootings where an armed guard was already stationed at the school. Columbine had multiple armed security staff: 17 Killed, 21 Injured. Virginia Tech had an entire police force on campus: 32 killed, 17 wounded. The list goes on and on.

    What these recommendations also leave out is the possibility that the teachers are mentally unstable and might use their new power to take it out on their students or other faculty. When you have 50 individuals walking around a school with a concealed weapon, in every school around the country, it is only a matter of time before SOMEONE snaps. Some teachers hold grudges against other teachers. Some teachers think their principal is mean to them. I'm not here to claim that I have all the answers as to how to keep our children safe, but I am just not sold that arming every teacher and principal in our country is the right way to go.
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    Given the street value I'd worry more about weapon theft in the schools. But then, that would increase guns sales to replace the loses. A win/win. A student with a bit more spending money and better profits for Glock.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    GemsWoven Wrote: Given the street value I'd worry more about weapon theft in the schools. But then, that would increase guns sales to replace the loses. A win/win. A student with a bit more spending money and better profits for Glock.
    Yes I expected something like that; we will see the effects for sure; anyway keeps the media happy.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    jared...so the NRA wants more guns in school. Whats next in breaking news? Water is wet! The sun rises in the East! NRA wants more guns EVERYWHERE is the least surprising news of the day.

    The unfortunate thing is that they are correct when they say the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun.

    All schools should be gun-free, but we know that's not going to happen.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    I thought they wouldn't press the issue, but they did with an announcement from ex-DEA Official of the Republican base paid and bought by the "No Real Authority" (NRA) group with a new 225 page report on arming our schools. Yes, place an assault weapon with a trained teacher in the school. Yes, give the teacher the "Make my Day" approval to kill all those children that disrupt the classroom with finger-guns, and pictures that show a person posing with a gun. Those kids are a threat to all the other kids that behave like zombies. Ever listen to the music, "The Wall", see the video, of course it is about world politics, but they used the kids in the class room idea. The music fits.

    Has the NRA or anybody with a brain determined what would happen when a so called "trained teacher" or an NRA rent-a-cop shoots a child without provocation or threat and is identifed as, "I'm sorry", I thoght the child had a uzzi, Glock or M9. Turns out the child had a Chocolote Easter Bunny and bringing it to class to share with his friends. No wonder Obama signed a $100M program to map the brain. There's no brains around and our politics and organizations like the NRA sure needs some.

    I can see the rent-a-cop having a mistake with a job protecting our young students. The ones I see in the grocey stores have the shakes like they're on drugs or have an alcohol problem. They are carrying guns. Scary! The education system doesn't have the funds to spend on quality security, so you get what you pay for, the "Rent-A-Cop". So, is the NRA going to pay for the law suits that are inevitable. I don't think the NRA will stick around and will blame it on the Democrats for not supporting quality security. The Republicans will be absent that day to discuss the school guard shooting and the Tea Party, well, just drinking their tea.

    All this will happen while we continue to hash out the issue of gun control and still argue what the hell is an "Assault" weapon. Time is running out, because the NRA is going to make a decision without us. Like I mentioned earlier the NRA has No Real Authority, so lets tell them that and keep them out of our schools.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Amcmurray you keep saying No Real Authority and you are right about that but the NRA does have REAL POWER. They own enough of our politicians to have real influence at the highest level. They have a very strong voting block, they have been effective in supporting and opposing certain candidates.

    Did Sandy Hook help or hurt the NRA? I've heard arguments both ways. They may not have "Authority" but they do have POWER.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jamesn Wrote: Amcmurray you keep saying No Real Authority and you are right about that but the NRA does have REAL POWER. They own enough of our politicians to have real influence at the highest level. They have a very strong voting block, they have been effective in supporting and opposing certain candidates.

    Did Sandy Hook help or hurt the NRA? I've heard arguments both ways. They may not have "Authority" but they do have POWER.
    Sorry as an old Dutchy, again I'm shaking my old head. Only in America these things happen. I always learned schools are places where you learn to use your brains; not here!! Here you learn to shoot instead or play volleyball or baseball; the other things do not matter.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    When I went to school,yes it had more than 1 room, but school was meant for learning,nowadays there seems to be more emphasis placed on social interaction than on the 3 r's, the dumbing down of our children is pervasive,outside of specilized schooling, our childrens brains are being turned into mush,research means Goggling it,conversation on the most part is reduced to texting with its own grammer source, even our game playing is merely left to an automatic response to a eletronic gadget, no thinking ,no planning ,just a visceral response is needed. Should teachers be armed,hell no ,should our children be protected,hell yes, should we leave the manner of protecting our children to some politician who has re-election on his mind as his agenda hell no,instead how about these school systems along with the community that they serve be the decider of these vital issues, school districts in this country are as many as they are varied,there is no one plan that fixes all. Let the community decide.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    johnnycee Wrote: When I went to school,yes it had more than 1 room, but school was meant for learning,nowadays there seems to be more emphasis placed on social interaction than on the 3 r's, the dumbing down of our children is pervasive,outside of specilized schooling, our childrens brains are being turned into mush,research means Goggling it,conversation on the most part is reduced to texting with its own grammer source, even our game playing is merely left to an automatic response to a eletronic gadget, no thinking ,no planning ,just a visceral response is needed. Should teachers be armed,hell no ,should our children be protected,hell yes, should we leave the manner of protecting our children to some politician who has re-election on his mind as his agenda hell no,instead how about these school systems along with the community that they serve be the decider of these vital issues, school districts in this country are as many as they are varied,there is no one plan that fixes all. Let the community decide.
    Here in Lee county they have already armed guards at schools; cost is of course for the taxpayer. So in other words we are paying for the fun of others having guns. Ridiculous. Also the chance that a simular thing like Newtown happens again is a million to one; so as usual these guys will be
    sound asleep and playing cards forever. Crazy country; no where on earth are the schools in this situation as here. Get rich fast? Start a gun shop!!!
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Dutch;
    The U.N. has passed a treaty ,not yet ratified, but a treaty with the United States as well as other member Nations signing on to suppress and even ban the movement of arms on a global scale, sounds good right, well in order to impliment this treaty, 3/4 of the member countries must ratifiy it, but what it also does is to have a total gun registration of all fire arms owned by all citizens, lets see where are legistrators stand on this treaty.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Treaty or no treaty whether ratified or not, the criminals and outlaws, and smugglers and gang members do not care. This will not stop them, it may slow them down, it may drive their prices and their profitability up.

    As if a treaty will solve the problem...
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I can understand the UN. mindset on weapons, especially in those countries with a great deal of civil unrest, less guns means less innocent blood spilled, the UN must feel that guns are the sole cause of these deaths, in Africa,whole villages have been known to have been murdered by machetes,we won't even go into the number of deaths caused in the forced starvation camps (aka) refugee camps for those that are displaced by the warring factions in their own country, yeah, guns are the proble.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    jamesn Wrote: Amcmurray you keep saying No Real Authority and you are right about that but the NRA does have REAL POWER. They own enough of our politicians to have real influence at the highest level. They have a very strong voting block, they have been effective in supporting and opposing certain candidates.

    Did Sandy Hook help or hurt the NRA? I've heard arguments both ways. They may not have "Authority" but they do have POWER.
    jamesn,
    There was a recent election in Chicago and the candidates with the A+ NRA ratings lost. It was against conventional logic. Hopefully the attitudes of the voters will superseed the old NRA ways.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    That's good news...but, one recent election in Chicago is hardly an indicator of how national elections will go in the future. The NRA still wields considerable influence, and I would think they have more power with rural voters more than urban voters.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jamesn Wrote: That's good news...but, one recent election in Chicago is hardly an indicator of how national elections will go in the future. The NRA still wields considerable influence, and I would think they have more power with rural voters more than urban voters.
    The whole thing in this country is getting to be ridiculous indeed; if you look from the outside to the whole thing, then I'm coming to the conclusion that we do not need an army anymore; ownership of private guns surpassed what the army has. Thus if anyone wants to invade us we can without federal help defend this country; in order then to have leadership we can appoint La Pierre to General to lead us in combat.