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Hubris on MSNBC

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  • Democrat
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    Hubris told us a lot about how politically afraid our talking faces are.
    Nobody mentioned that all of the main Bushies were Feith, Senor, Pearl, Wolfowitz: all have extreme contacts with Israel and who were pushing to kill Saddam long before 2001.
    After 31 years in the Navy and many days in Palestine, I love those people, but the above named don't care about America, they want all Arabs dead, and they want us to do the killing.
    In Iraq, they won. They and Bush are murderers.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Pigmy Wrote: Hubris told us a lot about how politically afraid our talking faces are.
    Nobody mentioned that all of the main Bushies were Feith, Senor, Pearl, Wolfowitz: all have extreme contacts with Israel and who were pushing to kill Saddam long before 2001.
    After 31 years in the Navy and many days in Palestine, I love those people, but the above named don't care about America, they want all Arabs dead, and they want us to do the killing.
    In Iraq, they won. They and Bush are murderers.
    The thing is most Americans live on this big "island" and have very little notion of the rest of the world and what moves it; they listen to their politicians and churches and then think they know it all. The media plays in on that in a big way; play a Nintendo game the culprit is mostly a bearded Arab or a dark type with hollow eyes. Then we have the churches who portray their hero's as white men; ever seen a "black" jesus picture or painting? Then we have the Koran burners and movie makers who help a lot. Suggest you look at Democracy Now; they are releasing a documentary about US torture in Iraq with input from Wiki leaks etc. You'll be shocked. If you see this then you wonder if the whole Bush clan should be in jail for the rest of their life's.
  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    Great documentary!

    Another to watch I recently saw on Link TV, "Ethos: A Time for Change". Hope you can all locate it for another viewing. There may be a book on this.

    Keep your eye out for Evil Flying Monkeys!
  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    I just watched 'Hubris'. Gotta say, I had hoped for a more in depth, scathing report on the misguiding efforts of the Bush Administration to dupe us into the Iraq War. Most everything covered, I had heard before. Nonetheless, I have been hearing a narrative over the last several years that the media is bought and paid for, and that they don't cover stuff like this because it could make our country leaders look weak, or worse corrupt. And, that could be terrible for a country that is already so divided by left/right wing talking points, agendas, and prejudices.

    I have to give it to MSNBC. I believe this was a bipartisan effort to further illuminate the American people on just how wrong it was for us to enter into that war, who was responsible, and just how they got away with it. But, I can't help but know that MSNBC tends to be a cheer leader for the left. And, everyone indicted on this documentary was Republican. Coincidence, perhaps. But, it does make me wonder if the same documentary would have been released if history were switched and Obama and his administration did these deeds 10 years ago and Bush and his croonies were in office today. Or, would it have been instead aired on Fox News, and with much more incendiary language and rhetoric.

    The message even feels Democratic, vs Republican. The language is softer. The accusations are less damning. Where in this film, the quote airs to the effect of, "at best, it was incompetence. At worse, they were lying." If this had been aired on Fox, the rhetoric and language would have been undeniably loud, mean and forthright, saying, "They were lying! They deserve to be imprisoned!" And, probably worse. And, in my opinion, this documentary could have used a little more of that kind of message.

    We have a system in place that puts so little emphasis and effort on righting the wrongs of the past crimes perpetrated by our government for war time affairs. And, that it is appalling. I'm not saying this wasn't a good documentary; I think it was. At least it aired for free on basic cable, for millions to see. That's something. Hopefully something comes from this. I know that several states are in the process as I write this to sue the federal government over us wrongly going after Iraq. I am anxious and hopeful that some justice comes from their effort. And, just maybe MSNBC has added some needed fuel to their fire with this.