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  • Democrat
    Lawrence, MA
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    From the Office Of The Special Inspector General for the Troubled Assest Relief Program;
    Amounut of pay increases the U.S. Treasuryapproved last year for executives at firms that received federal bailouts : $6,162, 208.

    From Kevin Dutton pollster, University of Oxford:
    Rank of chief executive officer (CEO)among occupations most likely to attract psychopaths :No. One
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    What is the matter with these sickos? All could find was the name of the deputy, Harold W. Geisel, Deputy Inspector General, so I have no idea of who the big man/woman's boss is, or their political affiliation. But with the jobs and economic situation at present, how could any "sane" human show any more disregard for the general population that raising the salaries of executives like this? Millions of people are hurting, so instead of helping them, these Federal honchos give the thieving corporate bigwigs a massive raise. Business as usual I guess.
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    I sometimes wonder if we all aren't just too naiive? Many times I have tried to describe that what is causing all the trouble right now in the United States, is the political system. We have basically a TWO PARTY system, both of them fighting for ultimate Power. In the old days, we all had an idea of "shared power" between 2 parties, trying to compromise to bring a "fair balance." NOT ANY MORE.

    One half of the US govt is now using stealth & cunning, and outright treason to undermine & destroy the democracy we have all had for most of the last 235 years. I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but the John Birch Society was the original beginning of the Tea Party and the Extremist Wing of the GOP. Even in FBI reports, they began as a secret society, using methods borrowed from Hitler, Stalin, & Marx -- with the full intent of destroying democracy. The JBS founder, Robert Welch, specifically said, "Democracy is the worst form of government" & so he set out to destroy it.

    What is democracy? It is the fundamental right to choose your own leaders by VOTING. That is the very basics of it. THAT is what they are trying to take away from you. They will do it by outsourcing all your jobs, bankrupting your economy, & rigging your elections.

    They want you to be powerless beggars, who have nothing, so they can CONTROL you in every way. If you have a secure job & lots of money in the bank, you will be able to threaten a "strike" at your factory or job. If lots of jobs are available, you can always leave one job to go get another, so you can move to another town or change occupations at will. This gives you some power. The BIG MONEY people do NOT want YOU to have any power at all. Definitely they DO NOT WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO VOTE. If you vote Democratic, you will try to get CLEAN ENERGY, like wind power, or solar energy, and this would cut into their ETERNAL PROFITS from "Dirty Energy" like Coal, OIL, & radio-active NUCLEAR Energy.

    It is a war between Good & Evil, a war between Freedom & Slavery, a war between Democracy & Fascism.
    Exemplified by the war between Clean Energy and Dirty Energy. // Coal & Oil from "below" (like Hell) & solar & wind energy from above the earth, which is (from God's own clean Heaven). Anybody can easily see which side the Democrats are on, the side of TRUTH and of CLEAN ENERGY and also one of the most important --- Like the Prince of PEACE, named Jesus --- we are ANTI-WAR.

    The BIBLE says: "Blessed are the PEACE MAKERS for they shall be called the children of God."
  • Democrat
    Lawrence, MA
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    We have all been educated with lies. For most of us it is too difficultt to think ouside the perimeter of the lie that has been fed to us fro childhood. The awakening begins when we ask our selves the question- What good is political democracy when the force that determines our lives is economic dicttatorship? We speak of a "two party system ". But we actually live with a one party system formulated to make us think we can make choces that will vitally effect ouir lives. The fact is ( don't be afraid to look at iot. The truth will set you free ) ....the fact is -we have one party with two branches both of which represent the exact same economic system. We see the politicians. They are visible to us on the television. We read about them in the newspapers. The schools and media lead us to believe that these are the men and women who determine our fate. But they are merely agents - not leaders. The leaders are secreted in board rooms, in the offices of the CEO's of the major corporations, in offices on Wall St. , and Chase Manhattan Bank, and Morgan Gaurantee Trust, and about a hundred others. "WE" may be anti-war. But "we" do not determine whether or not war will be aged.
    So it NOT a war between democracy and fascism. It is a war between democracy and capitalism. And because this is not understood we lurch from one social, economic disaster and war to another. As it was so it is....and as it is so it will be until the day when this nation of sleep walkers awakens.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Leftofcenter Wrote: We have all been educated with lies. For most of us it is too difficultt to think ouside the perimeter of the lie that has been fed to us fro childhood. The awakening begins when we ask our selves the question- What good is political democracy when the force that determines our lives is economic dicttatorship? We speak of a "two party system ". But we actually live with a one party system formulated to make us think we can make choces that will vitally effect ouir lives. The fact is ( don't be afraid to look at iot. The truth will set you free ) ....the fact is -we have one party with two branches both of which represent the exact same economic system. We see the politicians. They are visible to us on the television. We read about them in the newspapers. The schools and media lead us to believe that these are the men and women who determine our fate. But they are merely agents - not leaders. The leaders are secreted in board rooms, in the offices of the CEO's of the major corporations, in offices on Wall St. , and Chase Manhattan Bank, and Morgan Gaurantee Trust, and about a hundred others. "WE" may be anti-war. But "we" do not determine whether or not war will be aged.
    So it NOT a war between democracy and fascism. It is a war between democracy and capitalism. And because this is not understood we lurch from one social, economic disaster and war to another. As it was so it is....and as it is so it will be until the day when this nation of sleep walkers awakens.
    "Left" as always right on the money; As I said in many of my "threads" who is running this country? Eternal Fl. said we have democracy because we can vote; sorry but is the voting system also screwed up by "lobby money" ? so what democracy? Anyway personally this will go on for a while; I do not see a solution in the short term at all.
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    The Treasury is staffed by former Goldman employees. Yep, the same Goldman that pulled the biggest con in history, the dirivative market. They invented it but didn't play in it. Why not? It was a great way to lose a billion or so. They're competition was KO'ed. But the game is still on. Only, what is Goldman Sachs up to know.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    As for voting,it seems it is only for show, in my City's primaries ,they ( Party Bosses) think that having 40% of the electorate come out to vote is a big deal, that means 60% of the electorate doesn't give a damn,then when the general election comes around ,they, the electorate complain that the choices for office are limited and that they don't like either candidate,so then the party drones get elected or re-elected, and then nothing changes as far as policy issues are concerned. There should be no allowences for Lobbyists to be able to bribe our no backbone politicians, I think pending Bills should stand on their own and have an up and down vote and all if any needed Amendments be posted for all to see, and stop the campaigning, your elected for 4,or two terms thats not with time off for campaigning or taking political junkets to other countries, if you want to go somewhere ,take your summer vaction and go. Your job is to protect and to take care of our nation for the people,not for the Lobbyists,not for the United Nations,or any other group, but here the good ole USof A.
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    Thanks to all you guys who explained this for all of us. I tend to forget, since I am heavily intent on trying to stop the forces of the JBS and its new incarnation from taking complete control over the govt. Trying to expose the Tea Party for what it is, a fake party that uses every form of treason to try to stop what remains of our democracy from functioning. But YOU have added the dimension that this scenario needs to fully understand how awesome the forces are that work against us. This is mind boggling. We live in a fascist state already, controlled by the Big Capitalists, with some remaining vestiges of democracy allowed to placate the masses, so they remain calm. It is Profound, that the Lobbyists actually control our Congress more than ANY votes of We the People. The whole system of Democracy has been almost obliterated. What WE want is no longer of much interest to our "chosen" leaders. If the industrialists want more WAR, to gain new markets for their products, or raise the prices for military hardware, then what we poor little worms want, (to protect the lives of our soldiers) is totally neglected. They force our Armies into battle, get them killed or wounded, or driven to suicide (perhaps by psycho-active drugs given to them steadily) & if they return alive, the pretense charade of a Govt, does not hurry to offer aid to disabled veterans, or their families. However, IF this is the actual Govt we have now, it is a pure MIRACLE we have a man like Obama in the driver's seat. He does not exactly conform to the Wall Street crowd, nor to Big Pharma, nor the Highest Ranking Officers in the Field of War, -- he has his thoughts and ideals on the "pulse of America" -- he knows our hearts and souls. He knows how we feel, and he often can express them even better than we can ourselves. He can represent us in the International Community (like in Israel today) with our thoughts and dreams, our hopes for the future, for our idealistic beliefs in a world at Peace. He in no way cow-tows to the Corrupt CEO's of Capitalism. He is the REAL DEAL, that we would expect from the most powerful (but intellectually & spiritually aware) nation on earth. If we are mostly controlled by the forces of Evil & Greed,
    then how did Obama, (a man of the people & for the people) GET THERE? (Maybe this confirms that there IS a God).
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    nice post flame, but I sure don't need another confirmation that there is a God. My life has seen so many proofs that it is undeniable, certainly to me. But your words spell it out perfectly, how our once-proud and undeniably empathetic nation has been subverted, almost to the point of no return. BUT, I have faith in God, and if it is His will, we can get past all this.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    michaels39301 Wrote: nice post flame, but I sure don't need another confirmation that there is a God. My life has seen so many proofs that it is undeniable, certainly to me. But your words spell it out perfectly, how our once-proud and undeniably empathetic nation has been subverted, almost to the point of no return. BUT, I have faith in God, and if it is His will, we can get past all this.
    See my post under the "Pope" topic.
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    Durham, NH
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    Oh, oh, "Here come da Pope again" ;(

    As soon as these "Holier than thou's" come down off their high horses the better off the whole world will be. If God or Jesus ever existed they would be disgusted by what we all call "Religion"!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    pr Wrote: Oh, oh, "Here come da Pope again" ;(

    As soon as these "Holier than thou's" come down off their high horses the better off the whole world will be. If God or Jesus ever existed they would be disgusted by what we all call "Religion"!
    Kind of weird that this country swears by its religion and then kill innocent people in countries they did not even know existed; commit 10 years or longer wars; feed the millionairs instead of the poor; built "golden" churches" instead of dwellings for the homeless etc. etc.
    Indeed if there would be an actual "god" or a real (not human) jesus figure; they would not be with us anymore because they would have died laughing about us silly people.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Dutch I would disagree with you. I do not agree that..."this country swears by its religion"... what I would say is that some people swear by their religion and some people do not. If fact this country allows people to believe in religion if they choose and not to believe in religion if they choose.

    No, this country does NOT swear by it's religion, but many of its people do. You and pgr and plenty of others are legally allowed to not believe in any religion and in fact to ridicule all religions. Live and let live, to each his own, different strokes for different folks...etc
  • Independent
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    jamesn Wrote: Dutch I would disagree with you. I do not agree that..."this country swears by its religion"... what I would say is that some people swear by their religion and some people do not. If fact this country allows people to believe in religion if they choose and not to believe in religion if they choose.

    No, this country does NOT swear by it's religion, but many of its people do. You and pgr and plenty of others are legally allowed to not believe in any religion and in fact to ridicule all religions. Live and let live, to each his own, different strokes for different folks...etc
    I guess you forgot what the Constitution says: "In God we thrust" so? How is the President sworn in? This time with multiple preachers!!
    Why they have "preachers" in the army? No "muslim" ones I presume. So think again.
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    Yes, there are muslim "preachers" in the Army. And not all of them decide to murder thier fellow soldiers like the one did in Fort Hood Texas a few years ago. And no one is required to adhere to what any of the muslim or other preachers say or do. And even after the Fort Hood murders, there are STILL muslim "preachers" in the army.

    No our country does not swear by its religion. You are putting too much stock in slogans and customs. We are protected by law to practice religion and also protected from religion. To say..."the country swears by its religion"... is incorrect because everyone is free to have as much or as little religion in their life as they choose. You think again.