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Acceptance of Atrocities

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  • Democrat
    Missouri
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    There was some good responses to the previous topic on Steve King R-IOWA. But there appeared to be thought process going on that placed fault to those that serve our Armed Forces. It was strange that to discuss the atrocities of war, but not in our neighborhoods, schools, churchs workplaces and with our poor, ill/sick, handicapped and with each other. Our humanity is evolving to have a dull sense of being. The social environment is sick.

    The Democratic/Republican/Tea Party/other is ill with agendas that plague our existence. I'm typically a liberal democrat and most always vote in that direction. However, I am seeing recently some media events where the Democrats are giving up too much ground to other parties that threaten our social well being. Because we have a debt, we challenge each other over cuts in our society. No one wants to talk about how we got into debt, but rather recall thousands of excuses and blames on the other person. We would rather forgo aid and assistance to our poor, children, veterans, old/aged, police, firemen, the list goes on. We may have discussed much about atrocities in the Vietnam, Korea, Europe, Syria, Iraq and Afganistan Wars, but our history is teeming with war events that have had there own inhumane treatment. So, why does it make war any different than selling children & women into slavely and prostitution, not giving medical treatment to the aged in retirement homes, driveby shooting/killings, and dealing drugs knowing the outcomes to community health. Does it make sense to allow purchasing a gun without background checks? We have enough killings as atrocities in this country than all the wars that have been fought by this nation.

    My tours in the military took me to places all over the world. I grew up very fortunate, just like the song. I would say that 90% or more of the world is not fortunate. We are dependent for jobs, education, medical, aid and assistance. We all die the same way so why can't we live the same way caring for one another. A more caring society instead of the expectation of a fee for service. If we can't pay or render a service to a person "in power', we suffer and sometimes very badly. To watch children dive into sewer water in a ditch for coins thrown to them is an awakening to humanity. To visit aged locked away in their residences not managed by caring persons and see open bed sores and skin turning black from decay is an awakening to humanity

    Steve King R-IOWA is just an example of all of us having a social trait that allows acceptance to some atrocities, but not all. He painted a cruel picture of all Vietnam veterans calling them loosers, but he didn't continue to talk against the IRAQ war or the anyother war. I saw this as very inconsiderate, cruel and extremely narrow minded view of the world we live in as a society. So, Mr. King, you are a looser for not recognizing the poor, children, our aged, women and our country.
  • Democrat
    Lawrence, MA
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    If we allowed ourselves to get upset over every little atrocicty we'd be banging our heads on the wall all day long. Our Public Serpents have created a world where atrocities are the norm.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Leftofcenter Wrote: If we allowed ourselves to get upset over every little atrocicty we'd be banging our heads on the wall all day long. Our Public Serpents have created a world where atrocities are the norm.
    Amen!!!
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    Most times when the media or other social/political groups discuss the various atrocities it usually begins with the Nazis and their persecutation of the Jews and other disidents,both political and ethnic, but if they would get pass the sheer numbers of Hitler's Killing machine and see what man can to do ,without the assistence of devices and just by hand held weapons to other humans, and not by large numbers at a time but individualy , just read the book The Rape of Nanking, although the number of deaths falls far below the level set by Stalin and Hitler,but the level of horror inflicted on the Chinese citizens by the Japanese soldiers in so short a time could possibily rivil or even surpass those of the other two monsters
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    Portland, OR
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    Leftofcenter Wrote: If we allowed ourselves to get upset over every little atrocicty we'd be banging our heads on the wall all day long. Our Public Serpents have created a world where atrocities are the norm.
    Unfortunately, these public serpents are the ones that the "we the people" continue to elect into national office. I think it's an absolute tragedy that we as a society have come to recognize this as business as usual. I do somewhat understand American's lack of interest in world affairs before the age of the internet, but we have zero excuse now. We can see with our own eyes what is going on all throughout the world and yet still have blinders on.

    I haven't given up on all hope just yet though. Democracy is messy, but I'm confident that we can change the status quo if we just commit to it. Why is it so impossible to ponder spending the trillions of dollars in American treasure on weapons of peace instead of weapons of war? Why can't we spend trillions of dollars in building new roads, bridges, canals, dams, etc. not just here in America, but throughout the world? I have a feeling that we would be looked at far differently if we used the extreme wealth that we have as a society for the greater good.

    It isn't going to happen until our society forces it, but it can still happen. I trust in human kind to eventually right the wayward tilt of the ship and to set us on the right path. However, it can never happen if we continue to think that we can't fix things and accept that what we have now is the best it'll get.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Leftofcenter Wrote: If we allowed ourselves to get upset over every little atrocicty we'd be banging our heads on the wall all day long. Our Public Serpents have created a world where atrocities are the norm.
    Unfortunately, these public serpents are the ones that the "we the people" continue to elect into national office. I think it's an absolute tragedy that we as a society have come to recognize this as business as usual. I do somewhat understand American's lack of interest in world affairs before the age of the internet, but we have zero excuse now. We can see with our own eyes what is going on all throughout the world and yet still have blinders on.

    I haven't given up on all hope just yet though. Democracy is messy, but I'm confident that we can change the status quo if we just commit to it. Why is it so impossible to ponder spending the trillions of dollars in American treasure on weapons of peace instead of weapons of war? Why can't we spend trillions of dollars in building new roads, bridges, canals, dams, etc. not just here in America, but throughout the world? I have a feeling that we would be looked at far differently if we used the extreme wealth that we have as a society for the greater good.

    It isn't going to happen until our society forces it, but it can still happen. I trust in human kind to eventually right the wayward tilt of the ship and to set us on the right path. However, it can never happen if we continue to think that we can't fix things and accept that what we have now is the best it'll get.
    Jared, I totally agree; you and I know the reasons why and where the money went; what did we get back for it? The only words I remember is "This keeps America safe" May be we should invade Iceland: This will keep America safe!!! We do not need high speed rail, bridges etc. why? We need more cars on the road so the oil companies can sell more gas!!! The more detours and gridlock the better.!!