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Argentinan Cardinal Named Pope Francis I

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  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    We (or at least Catholics) have a new pope. His cardinal name is Jorge Mario Bergoglio. He was the Archbishop of Buenos Aires since 1998; so the new pope is Latino. He is supposedly also a champion of the poor. There you have it.. surprised? I personally thought the Italian guy would be named.
  • Center Left
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    Denton, TX
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    I should say his name was Jorge Bergoglio. He has chosen the name of Francis I. So, he is now Pope Francis I.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    I am sure happy to see a fellow Westerner, albeit a southern Westerner. I think it is a sign that the Catholic Church realizes the world has changed, and needs to expand its leadership history as well. The headquarters is still in Rome, but it seems the church's arms have opened enough to reach around the world. At least I hope so.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    It's interesting to note that the new Pope chose the name of St. Francis of Assasi, who was from a wealthy family and enjoyed the life of a party animal,it was sometime after one of the local wars ,when he was captured and because of his family's wealth was not killed but ransomed instead,that he become involved in a simpler life, he gave away his material things began a simple ministry based on a calling from God, instructing him to "fix my church". thinking that God meant for him to repair a local church that was in disrepair,which he did, the Bishop said the calling meant an altogether different thing , the Church was corrupt in its current way thinking and teachings, and that was what the message meant, Francis did not totaltly disagree but he knew he wasn't the man for the task, so later in his wonderings he met a leper, and feeling sorry for the man,got off his horse and gave the man a kiss, when he turned around the man was gone, he took this as a sign from God, and that the man was a messanger from God,and that he had passed the test and knew now what his mission was to be. Francis became a very humble man, believing in all of God's creatures as things of beauty, and by taking a vow of strict poverty,his followers also had to give away their material things if they wanted to follow him in his ministry,This new Pope by asking of the crowd in the square for their prayers for him before he prayed for them showed his humility, it was also by using the Lord's prayer,and the Hail Mary,and also the Gloris Santci or Dei I forget which, he allowed the most simplest of prayers to be his first prayers,again showing humility and I believe that this new Pope won't become enamored with the trappings of the Holy Church but instead with it's teachings of helping and loving one another as true Christians will be his mantra.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I may have jumped the pooch in deciding that the new Pope took his Papal name from St. Francis of Asassi, but rather as a Jesuit he probably took it from St. Francis Xaivar, a co-founder of the Society of Jesus,and was known for his missionary work in the far East.
  • Center Left
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    johnny,
    It was a great story. I liked it very much. Thank you..... even if it wasn't correct, it was interesting.
    I personally am glad to see a pope chosen from South America. With their huge numbers of Catholics,
    it only seems fitting.
  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: johnny,
    It was a great story. I liked it very much. Thank you..... even if it wasn't correct, it was interesting.
    I personally am glad to see a pope chosen from South America. With their huge numbers of Catholics,
    it only seems fitting.
    I see only one little problem;all the " German food" cooks are going to be fired; It will be "chorizo's and Argentinio real steaks, Hmmmmm. Delicious!! How do you say that in Latin? Also they give this guy gets a raise because all of this has to be flown in from a long way.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    After spending some time reading about Pope Francis, I couldn't help but feel extremely conflicting and contradictory emotions. On one hand, I'm firmly against his stance on contraception, abortion, gay marriage, and gay adoption. I fundamentally disagree with him on all of these issues and don't see any way of developing a bridge between my ideology and his on those issues. On the other hand, his work for the poor strikes a huge chord with me. His willingness to stand up to the capitalistic forces in Argentina that sent millions of Argentinians into poverty is something I can't help but admire and am ecstatic that the poor in our world will finally have a powerful voice admonishing their plight. I guess that time will tell which one he spends more of his time focusing on: social injustice or conservative social issues that will only continue to divide people.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    The Pope is the earthly leader of all Roman Catholic's and his leadership role is bound by Catholic Teachings and of course their Dogma, and by the Holy Books they read and learn it is not within the Christian Faith,at least on the devout Catholic side to accept abortion or homosexuality as correct and rightous, so the Pope cannot go against the very Doctrine that brought him to this position of Faith, you cannot cherry pick the Bible, several times in the Bible it refers to the practice of homosexuality as an abomination, Sodom and Gomorrea were referanced as to what happens to those that practice homosexaulity,abortion is another issue that purely on a Christian level it is a no-no, but when you start seeking exceptions and apply humanistic theories to the issue then the matter really gets provocative with debates over what should be followed, theology vs secular,with some humanistic values thrown in, its no wonder that so many people have stopped attending sunday services, they still believe in their Church and God but they are so confused about the differing opinions from fellow church goers and also even among the clergy, that they do not want to take sides so they don't attend to avoid being a part of the conversation, perhaps the new Pope can make clear and draw a line as to what the Catholic Church and it's membership can or cannot do or believe to remain a good practicing Catholic and able to accept and receive certain Sacraments, I think the Pope has authority to change the Liturgy of the Mass, but he cannot change the principals of Faith, on matters of Faith he is infallable in his decisions but he cannot change faith.
  • Independent
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: After spending some time reading about Pope Francis, I couldn't help but feel extremely conflicting and contradictory emotions. On one hand, I'm firmly against his stance on contraception, abortion, gay marriage, and gay adoption. I fundamentally disagree with him on all of these issues and don't see any way of developing a bridge between my ideology and his on those issues. On the other hand, his work for the poor strikes a huge chord with me. His willingness to stand up to the capitalistic forces in Argentina that sent millions of Argentinians into poverty is something I can't help but admire and am ecstatic that the poor in our world will finally have a powerful voice admonishing their plight. I guess that time will tell which one he spends more of his time focusing on: social injustice or conservative social issues that will only continue to divide people.
    No, he helped the Junta; read my other mail about his background as published by the Dutch news as mentioned in other topics. The media of course paints the guy as helping the poor etc. this always works.
  • Democrat
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    One of the Papal news releases stated that Pope Francis is not to be considered or spoken of as Pope Francis I, his preferance is Pope Francis only.
  • Democrat
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    Seems like kind of a nit-picky objection to me, why not just refer to him as Pope Francis zero, or nada, or zilch? After all, he IS the first Pope Francis, and I never heard of a rule whereby a Pope could ban forever anyone using his name again.
  • Democrat
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    I guess its the same way as your father not being called senior because there isn't a junior yet.
  • Democrat
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    My father only had the same middle name as I do.
  • Democrat
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    I'm sorry I missed your point about having a middle name, my father never had a middle name, you would think that being of Cuban descent and Catholic he would have had one. How sterotypical of me!