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Paul Ryan is NOT Alone

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  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    I heard and saw Paul Ryan on the cable news this morning, ranting like a crazy man against Obama-Care. Everyone in their right mind knows what a fool this makes him appear to be. The health reform law has been passed, and is being instituted as we speak. By next year, the true benefits of this mandate will be even more pronounced. Even the Supreme court has validated this piece of legislation, so why can't he just accept it? Dammit Ryan, you lost the election and you lost your fight against the Healthcare Act, just admit it and hush your mouth.

    I feel the need to add to what I've said here, based on what I've read in this morning's local newspaper. Mississippi Governor Phil Bryant has always, and is now railing against the one facet of the law that is arguable, although I disagree fully with his argument. He has and is refusing even the will of his own state's physicians, hospitals, and poor people to accept the Medicaid expansion, giving essentially FREE coverage to an estimated 300,000 people, mostly low-wage workers with no health coverage. The governor says the state can't afford it, though the law specifies that from 2014 to 2017 the federal government would pay 100% of medical costs for people qualifying under the new standards. During the 3 years AFTER 2017, the federal share progressively drops to 90% of these medical costs, with the states having to pay the balance. This sure seems like a generous offer to me, BUT the governor's answer to this is "I don't trust the federal government to pay 100% of Medicaid for the next three years." I say, as the poorest state in the country, does he trust the federal government to supply his state with the coverage of Medicaid that it has been and is currently providing? How can he, who I am sure is enjoying the best insurance plan available in his state, tell these 300,000 citizens of his that they will not be receiving what the federal government has offered them, AND what their equals in other states ARE, IN FACT, receiving?
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    Good post michaels,
    I agree with you. 100% for 3 years then 90% for 3 years. Hopefully those covered will become more healthy by having proper medical coverage.
    Maybe he thinks the poor are not worthy of medical treatment.
    The reason I want the Affordable Care Act to start working is because in Columbus, the poor with no insurance use the emergency room at a hospital for all of their medical needs. Kids have the flu, take them to the emergency room. It's always open and you don't have to pay because they can't refuse to treat anyone. If they start going to a doctors office, maybe people who need the emergency room won't have to wait 4 hours to be seen.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    TJ Wrote: Good post michaels,
    I agree with you. 100% for 3 years then 90% for 3 years. Hopefully those covered will become more healthy by having proper medical coverage.
    Maybe he thinks the poor are not worthy of medical treatment.
    The reason I want the Affordable Care Act to start working is because in Columbus, the poor with no insurance use the emergency room at a hospital for all of their medical needs. Kids have the flu, take them to the emergency room. It's always open and you don't have to pay because they can't refuse to treat anyone. If they start going to a doctors office, maybe people who need the emergency room won't have to wait 4 hours to be seen.
    May be I'm a stupid old Dutchy but this looks a bit like medical service in Bangla Desh; are we indeed a third world country? If the poor are not healthy they will not be able to get a job either or go to school to better themselves.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    I sure see Tony's point. We are not a Bangla Desh or any other third world country, we are just in the throes of switching from our old and worn-out system to the new system offered by the Affordable Care Act. This new act, is just that, brand new, and only the first attempt to wean Americans from their stand-by "ER for everything" approach, to a more available and equitable system of HEALTHCARE, as opposed to sickness-care. It certainly will be a long-term process of change, but it is a grand idea to get started on it now, rather than later. I figure the sooner we bite the bullet, the sooner and easier it will be to get through is all.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Paul Ryan actually said this:

    "This is something we will not give up on because we are not going to give up on destroying the health care system for the American people."

    Crooks and Liars call it a Freudian slip.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    Someone needs to assassinate this stroke Ryan.
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    michaels39301 Wrote: Someone needs to assassinate this stroke Ryan.
    Nope. Sit back and watch him do a neat little character assasination of himself. And in the doing he will cast a pale yellow light on his party.
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    It is really amazing that this Affordable Care Act, a Bill, other then Paul Ryan apparently , that these legistrators,on both sides of the aisle including the respective leaders of both houses still have not read it in its entireity, the only time it comes up ,is when something negative is about to happen, such as employer's saying that now they will have to lay off some workers and make others part time to be able to be in complience or else they will go belly up, some unions are complaining that their plans ,while they were negoaited, in good faith,with the Companies that are represented by their Unions ,that these plans are now considered Cadillac Plans , which means that the employee's now have to pay an addittional tax on the portion that the Company pays, we won't even go into the fining of those who don't get health insurance because that is joke unto itself.. My point is that had the Democrats proposed a Bill that would have been properly introduced and debated,instead of ramming thru a Bill just for the sake of saying ;Hey ,Look at us and see what we have acomplished with out realizing any of the possible bad ramifications of the Bill we probaly would'nt be in this fix. We have to pass it before we read it should have been red light screaming danger.
  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    johnny,
    If all concerned haven't read it then they're just lazy. You say it should have been passed with more of a sense of cooperation and debate ? Well that sure would not have worked. The repub's don't want to give anything to the poor. Nothing, zero, zilch. The democrats tried to handle this differently about 15 years earlier during he Clinton administration but there was not an open mind to be found across the isle. It quickly died and the repub's were happy. Why in the hell would we try to help the poor ? How much can they contribute to our next campaign ? Nothing, so we'll give more breaks to big business. They'll return the favor with political contributions.
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    johnnycee Wrote: It is really amazing that this Affordable Care Act, a Bill, other then Paul Ryan apparently , that these legistrators,on both sides of the aisle including the respective leaders of both houses still have not read it in its entireity, the only time it comes up ,is when something negative is about to happen, such as employer's saying that now they will have to lay off some workers and make others part time to be able to be in complience or else they will go belly up, some unions are complaining that their plans ,while they were negoaited, in good faith,with the Companies that are represented by their Unions ,that these plans are now considered Cadillac Plans , which means that the employee's now have to pay an addittional tax on the portion that the Company pays, we won't even go into the fining of those who don't get health insurance because that is joke unto itself.. My point is that had the Democrats proposed a Bill that would have been properly introduced and debated,instead of ramming thru a Bill just for the sake of saying ;Hey ,Look at us and see what we have acomplished with out realizing any of the possible bad ramifications of the Bill we probaly would'nt be in this fix. We have to pass it before we read it should have been red light screaming danger.
    Fenway????
  • Democrat
    Philadelphia, PA
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    I have no trouble calling our Congressmen and women lazy, because if they wern't being lazy then there is something sinister afoot, why they didn't bother to read the Bill before passing it ,escapes my sense of logic. I am not saying the entire Bill is wrong but the manner in which it was proposed and passed was wrong, there should have been debate on the pros and cons, there was a certain atitude between the parties of I'll show you mentality and a damn the public ,I know what what is best for the country swagger, lost in all of this chest thumping was the cost of the Act and how was it to be funded, when that question came up, both sides started to flash figures and stats,each claiming theirs were the correct numbers, there were claims that certain members of congress were promised certain exemtions for their state for their vote, also certain subsidies were be included if they voted in a certain manner, the bottom line was that the Speaker of the House Sen Harry Reid, sensing a serious delay in the voting procedures elected to move the Bill foward on obscure procedure something called clouture, and the Bill passed,and the rest is History as they say.
  • Democrat
    Wadesboro, NC
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    Never in my life did I ever think I would be defending a pesident of the united states , less alone our first black one , but Paul Ryan should go back to wisconsin and beg mercy , what a dumb ass, get it him thinking the 416 billuion in savings were actal dollars he could tab to his new failed budget ,and i'm stupid cause i smoke weed , forgive me but i may have a few billion more brain cells than he .
  • Democrat
    Lawrence, MA
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    GemsWoven Wrote:
    michaels39301 Wrote: Someone needs to assassinate this stroke Ryan.
    Nope. Sit back and watch him do a neat little character assasination of himself. And in the doing he will cast a pale yellow light on his party.
    No No. Leave him alone. I saw a poll lat night that says one third of Americans are now anti capitalist. Every time he opens his mouth I envision that number growing.