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  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Gun License Law

    If you want to drive a car into public that could kill someone you need a driver's license. It is only common sense, if you want to carry a gun made to kill someone into public, you should have to have a gun license.

    “That is an infringement of my rights” of course the NRA would cry if common sense gun license are law. Of course the non-brainwashed would know they are nuts to say this. For one, the word infringement is not in our constitution. For two, you wouldn’t need a license if you keep your gun at home and not in public, just like with a driver’s license, you can drive all you want on private property without a driver’s license just not in public. So no, a license to carry a gun into public does not go against the constitution nor does it infringe any ones rights to bear arms, just keep them at home if you don’t have a gun license.

    A gun license would be all you would need to buy a gun without a back ground check too. In order to get the license you would have to pass a back ground check along with other important knowledge one needs to carry a gun into public. When someone wants to buy a gun at gun store or a gun show, the license would be scanned and a computer read out would tell you if the license is still valid, with no ones time being wasted doing paper work and back ground checks. You don’t get to drive a car in public without license and knowledge to drive; for sure you should not be able to carry a gun into public without a license and knowledge.

    The gun license will keep the guns in the good guys hands and when someone has a gun without a license in public they should be sent to jail for the rest of their born life, since that is why they carry illegal, to take other's life. Hmm, I wonder how many want a be gangsters there will want to be when faced with life in prison? Many lives could of been saved with a gun license law already, many more will be saved in the future when we have a gun license law, the only practical new gun law!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "united" personally I think the whole thing about guns is a huge "fringe" they all built around the issue. The same applies about your licence idea.
    It does nothing to deter any killing whatsoever; most killings are not related to "paperwork" or "background checks" anyway. The "tool" remains the tool to kill; if there were no guns then the same people would use something else to kill. Statistics wil prove that most killing come forth out of a dispute or robbery gone wrong, or someone snaps if threatened etc. So all the fuss about running checks and paperwork will in the end be only a huge burden and additional administration which may only help to find an owner who may be long gone; but the victim stays deader than dead anyway.
    With a drivers licence the same thing I drove for 50 years and was stopped only once; so I could have been driving that long without one.
    So the more things are "built" around this "tool" of murder the more I see this as creating only more revenue but does not reduce the crime rate.

    Criminals stay criminals, nuts stay nuts, drugs stay drugs, mentaly challenged people will stay that if there is no care etc. The only thing what will help is to get a mentally healthier society via helping the poor, education and mental health help (not via drugs only) Furthermore put the right help in place for returning soldiers who are depressed or have mental problems. Related to the police, start more employment from people out of civil life and not only the military; their attitude does not fit in a civil society.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    ...Criminals will stay criminals...isn't that the truth and that's why all the laws, all the lincense requirements, all the gun bans, all the background checks, no matterwhat is done there will always be...criminals stay criminals...and that means the unending violence will continue. I'm all for more gun control and it will help some but nothing will stop all the gun violence. Nothing.

    Criminals, by definition, are law breakers so no laws, bans, license requirements will deter them.
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    The only real way to decrease the number of military grade guns is to stop the production. I can't be the only one who knows how to use the underground economy and that is where the real problem is. The gun lobby knows the majority are smuggled into Mexico where huge profits are made. And thus all the talk about everything but supply is meaningless.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Stop the production and they'd still be bought and sold. Also new ones would be smuggled into the country and if anyone thinks we could stop them just look at the war on drugs and how well we stop drug smuggling. Yes stopping domestic production would help limit the supply but would also drive up the prices resulting in the smuggling of new ones being even more profitable. The supply argument doesn't work either.
  • Independent
    Ceres, CA
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    How about NOT blaming the guns or the guns owners on what has happen in America the big problem is no one can carry and fight back with these thugs and gang members. I can say if a gang member approaches me then I will defend myself I have a carry conceled permit and I beleave everyone should

    First they should have to go through a phsycological testing that law enforcement goes through
    Also they should have to prove any weapons they have are stored in a safe where no one but them can access them. This would keep them from being miss used. They also should have to attended training and shooting fire course by local law enforcemnt course of fire on a quarterly bases.

    START having local police staged at all schools maybe even training teachers to use a fire arms and place lock boxes through out the schools that the teachers can access the weapons incase of and emergency.

    Keep two things in mind
    The reason no country has ever tried attacking are borders is because civilian gun ownership
    the other thing is don't take the the regular citizens guns take the criminals gun and if a criminal breaks the law using a gun give the death sentenance and follow through
  • Independent
    Ohio
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    So what's next? A license for free speech? For freedom of religion. The bill if rights should not require a license.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Altair13 Wrote: So what's next? A license for free speech? For freedom of religion. The bill if rights should not require a license.
    The bill of rights, what does that have to do with a common sense gun license? No the bill of rights does not give you any gun rights to carry a gun into public, it gives you the right to have guns at home PERIOD, if you want to take one into public, get a license for it or leave it at home, is what you might find the next gun law to be and the NRA or bill of rights can't help you, NO words in our constitution prevents a common sense license for a gun.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    unitedmajority Wrote:
    Altair13 Wrote: So what's next? A license for free speech? For freedom of religion. The bill if rights should not require a license.
    The bill of rights, what does that have to do with a common sense gun license? No the bill of rights does not give you any gun rights to carry a gun into public, it gives you the right to have guns at home PERIOD, if you want to take one into public, get a license for it or leave it at home, is what you might find the next gun law to be and the NRA or bill of rights can't help you, NO words in our constitution prevents a common sense license for a gun.
    As I said before "licences" are only a "fringe" around the real issue; it does not deter people being killed at any time; it is a total waste, most nutheads and criminals will certainly shoot also with a licence. It only creates a nice "bureaucratic paper mill" which will only enrich someone and the funds will disappear in some NRA pocket anyway. And do you really think the NRA would support such a plan and will not boycot such?
    Please read my above "thread" again; only a few things will work; either get laws like other civil countries (forget the 2nd Amendmend) or get rid of all guns in the hands of civilians. Since neither solution ever will be accepted here; just by creating "paperwork" will not stop any killing; just realize lately the gun sales have exploded so ad that to the 300 million plus guns; writing out a "licence" for an old guy in the "bush" somewhere who has had a gun since 1940 does not make sense.
  • Independent
    Forney, TX
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    A gun license will not stop another shooter from going into our schools and killing our children.
    Nor having a security guard at our schools will keep an intruder out.

    Our goverment advised strict gun control and they do this everytime some catastrophe happens.
    I do not take these catactrophes lightly, I hurt for these families.

    I believe First and foremost put God back in our schools our country was founded in God We Trust.

    Help our young men and women who come home from Military Service With Medical issues such as depression and mental issues due to war etc.

    Help our families who have childern who suffer with mental issues.
    Our medical in America is so costly that the average working people here in America who have health insurance don't always go to the doctor because their deductible's are so high and cannot afford the additional cost.
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    Central, FL
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    Joy,
    You think the solution is to put God back into schools ? Which God ? Yours ? I thought so. Many religions, many gods, of course yours is the good one - right ?
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "mcClellan" correct, schools are for education and should be run by also very good educated teachers. "god's do not teach as far as I know. I've never seen one in front of the class!!
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Joy,
    You hurt along time for the ones killed with guns like in Sandy Hook, what about the hundreds that are killed everyday in this country by gun, do you hurt for them too? No, just the ones that make the national News? At least that is what it sounds like. And for the record, the founding fathers were not Christians like your Christian Gang leader has convinced you and yes the founding fathers said in OUR CONSTITUTION, that government and religion ARE separate!
    Not sure what's up with Gang Christian lately, but they seem to be making a lot of money off of giving their members a reason to fight, saying the founding fathers wanted religion and government connected, and the crazy part about this, the members are buying it, instead of reading the constitution them selves to see the facts for themselves. Most of the founding fathers were not Christian and they did not want the Christians or any other religious gang influencing our government in any way shape or form, your gang leader is a "liar" when they spit these lies at you, read the constitution and research the founding fathers if you want to see the "real" truth instead of the for profit Christian lies.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Dutch Wrote: "united" personally I think the whole thing about guns is a huge "fringe" they all built around the issue. The same applies about your licence idea.
    It does nothing to deter any killing whatsoever; most killings are not related to "paperwork" or "background checks" anyway. The "tool" remains the tool to kill; if there were no guns then the same people would use something else to kill. Statistics wil prove that most killing come forth out of a dispute or robbery gone wrong, or someone snaps if threatened etc. So all the fuss about running checks and paperwork will in the end be only a huge burden and additional administration which may only help to find an owner who may be long gone; but the victim stays deader than dead anyway.
    With a drivers licence the same thing I drove for 50 years and was stopped only once; so I could have been driving that long without one.
    So the more things are "built" around this "tool" of murder the more I see this as creating only more revenue but does not reduce the crime rate.

    Criminals stay criminals, nuts stay nuts, drugs stay drugs, mentaly challenged people will stay that if there is no care etc. The only thing what will help is to get a mentally healthier society via helping the poor, education and mental health help (not via drugs only) Furthermore put the right help in place for returning soldiers who are depressed or have mental problems. Related to the police, start more employment from people out of civil life and not only the military; their attitude does not fit in a civil society.
    Of course a gun license and real penalties for breaking the gun license law will save "many lives" for sure, why, because the criminals, that do the most killings by gun, have been packing illegally before they use their gun to kill. Take the gun law violators off the street and you have taken future killers off the street and in turn have saved lives. Sure your ideas would work, but are not going to happen in this country, I'm being real to America with my solution not other countries. America's gun problem is unique to America, it will take a unique solution, a gun license law and stronger penalties is our only hope. Plus, make the license expensive, I'm sick of seeing my tax dollars used to arrest and jail NRA members, gun license money can pay for that. And too bad if the NRA has a problem with a gun license, what can they do, kill you with a gun if they don't like it? Trust me, I'm not worried about a NRA member coming into my house with their NRA approved gun, my best friend will take them out before they know what bit them in the throat.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    " united" we have plenty of drug runners here and grow houses; these people are stopped daily on Aligator Alley; my neighbor is a State Police man and patrols that stretch. Most of these guys have fake indentifications or are here illegally; so how do they get a licence? Forget it! I guarantee even if your idea is ever accepted that still most killings are still done by people who could care less about having a licence. Let alone the NRA who certainly will object, unless they can be on the take of the fees and as long as it won't slow the gun sales. So forget it.!!