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The Tea Party and Defense Cuts

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    I can't believe what I'm about to say, but here it goes: I agree with the Tea Party. It seems that more and more Republicans in the House are considering letting sequestration take effect and allowing the across the board spending cuts to go into place. I whole heartily agree with them. It is long past time to get our "defense" spending under control. I use the words defense in quotes because what are we really defending anymore? We spend so much of our treasure on weapons of war that it has nearly bankrupted our country.

    What is so tragic about our current state of affairs in the world is that we fell exactly into the trap that was set for us after 9/11. Bin Laden did not think that he could defeat us militarily. That was never his intention. He stated as much in multiple interviews and video's. In 2004 he told Al_Jazeera: "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah." He was smart enough to know what our reaction to 9/11 would be and we took the bait. America has been engaged in multiple wars costing taxpayers 1,420,500,000,000 and counting and can anyone out there say we are truly safer? Is there such a thing as to be safe from terrorism? It's an idea, an ideology. We have put 1.5 trillion on our credit card to fight an ideology.

    It is well past time for Americans to have a conversation about our desire for a constant war. It's as if we can't function if there isn't a boogy man out there. While we spend trillions on machines that kill and maim, we divest from education, health care, social programs, etc. Spending so much on "defense" while we watch millions of our citizens go without food, without a proper education, without a chance at the "American Dream."

    So I'll say it again, and most likely the last time: I agree with the Tea Party. It's time to tell the Pentagon that they need to tighten up their belt.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "jared" tea party or no teaparty; yes you have the right thought and you wrote a great piece; the only thing I wonder about is it "smoke and mirrors" or real? What will happen to signed and sealed contracts like the F35? and the ships they are building in Norfolk? So, where are these cuts made? Maybe they get there way in via the backdoor again. Just ask "schmidt"; I just read a piece he sent about the "cyber" investment; a secret project costing billions, so I wonder and wonder?
  • Democrat
    Lawrence, MA
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: I can't believe what I'm about to say, but here it goes: I agree with the Tea Party. It seems that more and more Republicans in the House are considering letting sequestration take effect and allowing the across the board spending cuts to go into place. I whole heartily agree with them. It is long past time to get our "defense" spending under control. I use the words defense in quotes because what are we really defending anymore? We spend so much of our treasure on weapons of war that it has nearly bankrupted our country.

    What is so tragic about our current state of affairs in the world is that we fell exactly into the trap that was set for us after 9/11. Bin Laden did not think that he could defeat us militarily. That was never his intention. He stated as much in multiple interviews and video's. In 2004 he told Al_Jazeera: "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah." He was smart enough to know what our reaction to 9/11 would be and we took the bait. America has been engaged in multiple wars costing taxpayers 1,420,500,000,000 and counting and can anyone out there say we are truly safer? Is there such a thing as to be safe from terrorism? It's an idea, an ideology. We have put 1.5 trillion on our credit card to fight an ideology.

    It is well past time for Americans to have a conversation about our desire for a constant war. It's as if we can't function if there isn't a boogy man out there. While we spend trillions on machines that kill and maim, we divest from education, health care, social programs, etc. Spending so much on "defense" while we watch millions of our citizens go without food, without a proper education, without a chance at the "American Dream."

    So I'll say it again, and most likely the last time: I agree with the Tea Party. It's time to tell the Pentagon that they need to tighten up their belt.
    Jared, Can I offer a stly different spin on our recent and soon to be military adventures? They are not something we recently " fell" into. Bil Laden gave the hawks, super capitalists and imperialists a great gift. the chance to use up their stock pile of weaponry so as to require replacement. Companies like Haliburton ( there are many others ) got the chance to rake in tax money to pretend they were repairing all the infra structure the military destroyed, and the US has been able to establish a permanent military presence in several areas. American capitaists should actually puit up a statue to Bin Laden....perhaps on Wall Street......But what I really want to say is something abou yur statement that " it is past time for Americans to have a conversation about our desire for a constant war." Which Americans are you talking about ? The profiteers ? The ones
    who work in the munitions industry ? The hypnotized who wrap themselves in the flag at every jingoist opportunity ? Or maybe that small group who see clearly through the smoke screens that Washington puts up? If it's the later.....what do they do when their finished having " a conversation " since there is not a god da....ed thing tey can do about it. BOTH major political parties support the exact same capitalist war machine. You might get a little tinkering out of Washington if the uproar was loud enough. But only thing that would turn this monster around at this point is a revolution which is not going to happen, or a total societal collapse which very well might.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "left" I fully understand your piece and agree totally. The thing I like to repeat is as long as we the voters do not demand term limit change, then the same greedy warmongers will stay in Washington together with their lobby buddies, so it will continue forever till the money totally runs out; but money printing presses are patient, so do not bet on that. Certain figures in Washington are experts in "fear mongering" in order to keep the US safe they claim. My point is as always has been, like your bible says: If you do good then you get "good" back; so in other words help the poor so they do not get yealous or mad at us; leave them have their own culture and religion and do not steal their resources. Right now we only look at the "issue " can they do us harm"? and put all our resources onto that only, including how much can we rip them of related to oil etc. Then we have some fanatics who try to force them to change to our religion; which in turn creates even more friction inside such a country; no wonder these overzealous people gets kidnapped or killed once in a while; No the US should refrain from being a "policeman" or force others in this world to become like us, but become more like a well educated "mother" instead, who cares for her "kids".
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    I couldn't agree with you more, Leftofcenter. There are many, many misinformed people in this country that are more than willing to accept whatever Fox News and the Drudge Report tell them. The profiteers, munitions industry workers, and the hypnotized who wrap themselves in the flag at every jingoist opportunity are all at fault. People like us are also at fault. What ever happened to real protest? We have become so lazy as a society that we look at mass protests as a bothersome burden that gets in the way of our commutes to and from work.

    The problem with what we've gotten ourselves into as a country is plain and simple: what do we do moving forward? Everyone can disagree with how and why we got into this mess, but it still doesn't address that simple question. The same people that beat the War drums while demanding tax breaks are beginning to realize that nothing in life is free. The point of my post was to show that as crazy and out of touch as the Tea-Party is, at least some of them care so much about cutting spending that they are willing to explore genuine defense cuts. I am the type of individual that will always try to find things to agree with people that I typically disagree with. If we can get the Tea-Party and the liberals to join to together in getting defense cuts, then why wouldn't we do whatever we can to make that a reality?