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Infringed Freedom by: Carry Concealed

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  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Not only does concealed carry infringe my rights to choose, given to me in both the bible and our constitution, but concealed carry is an infringement of American freedom, something all Americans live by and are entitled too, but here we are, in a day when anyone can have a device used for killing feet away from you and you have no clue they have this death device a hiding, thanks to concealed carry. Concealed carry is not freedom; it is control by gun, the great equalized of the west, is now the great freedom taker of today.

    Hey concealed carry freaks;

    “Concealed carry is not American like, keep your gun at home locked up, I don’t need to be around someone who feels they need a gun to be safe now a days, for sure I am not safe nor is anyone else around people like you with a hidden gun. If you really feel the need to carry a gun, strap it to your side like they use to, so I can avoid you like the plague.”
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "united" hi,again. I wrote about that in one of my "threads" in which I mentioned that a guy who I knew showed me his gun at a meeting, which he had concealed in his pocket. This was used as an "tool" to intimidate; if you do not vote or say as I want than you know etc...
    The police use this also to intimidate; I hate societies like that; it is really pushing your weight around, like I see in a lot of gun supporters writings; you can not take my gunaway or else. I also guess it is an phycological tool to cover up an inferiority/insecurity feeling of persons.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    Dutch Wrote: "united" hi,again. I wrote about that in one of my "threads" in which I mentioned that a guy who I knew showed me his gun at a meeting, which he had concealed in his pocket. This was used as an "tool" to intimidate; if you do not vote or say as I want than you know etc...
    The police use this also to intimidate; I hate societies like that; it is really pushing your weight around, like I see in a lot of gun supporters writings; you can not take my gunaway or else. I also guess it is an phycological tool to cover up an inferiority/insecurity feeling of persons.
    Pretty crazy what you said about the control freak with a gun, showing it to you to intimidate you, basically saying "if you piss me off I kill you", this is something only God should be able to do, strike you down, but many here on earth think they are God, and think they have the right to carry a hidden gun to kill anyone they want to at any time, pretty sick for sure.

    I use to think money made it easy for God to judge ones soul, but it appears concealed carry is also a great way for God to judge someone. What do you think God thought of the control freak showing you his gun? Bet God was done judging that soul at that moment, bet they are not going to see God in the end if in fact God is real and uses earth to judge us.

    Concealed carry is yet another example of money passing a law that is against what the majority would say, for sure it is time for the majority to start controlling our out of control corrupt leaders.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    I think "God" has a lot more on her plate than "judging" mortals!

    To invoke the name of God so often is a waste of time, IMHO, no one knows if
    God even exists, much less gives a damn about us, if she does exist ;) !
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "united" Yes it is a "phycological tool" as well and is used more and more just to intimidate. Sorry to say no "god" or Mohammed controls that, it is the "human" and its "non-existing brain" who uses this "human" made tool to force others to follow their "wishes". It really is like being occupied, like the Nazi's did, gun in your back, do as I say. I'm absolutely convinced that your "god" has no say at all in this. As you state, then why did your "god" not interfere when 6 million Jew were klled by Hitler? Sorry to say actions by people can only be punished by people
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    United--GREAT post! I couldn't agree with you more with regards to the whole concealed carry debate. I have never heard a solid and rational defense of concealed carry. If someone wants to carry a gun, I agree that they should have it in clear sight so I could also avoid them like the plague. The true irony is what Bill Maher brought up on his show a few nights ago. He discussed how people are so focused on the 2nd Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms that the military industrial complex has functioned pretty much under the radar as it gathers information and spies on American's, all in name of being "safe for democracy." American's love their guns, but I guess they don't care too much about their privacy anymore.

    What worries me the most is that we have 300 million guns in this country, but does ANYONE actually think that if an armed insurrection in America took place that it would actually succeed in overthrowing the government? (See 1861-1865) The only thing these guns will do is allow every day Americans to kill other every day Americans if social order breaks down in our country. We have a way of changing our government and it's in elections.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    jaredsxtn Wrote: United--GREAT post! I couldn't agree with you more with regards to the whole concealed carry debate. I have never heard a solid and rational defense of concealed carry. If someone wants to carry a gun, I agree that they should have it in clear sight so I could also avoid them like the plague. The true irony is what Bill Maher brought up on his show a few nights ago. He discussed how people are so focused on the 2nd Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms that the military industrial complex has functioned pretty much under the radar as it gathers information and spies on American's, all in name of being "safe for democracy." American's love their guns, but I guess they don't care too much about their privacy anymore.

    What worries me the most is that we have 300 million guns in this country, but does ANYONE actually think that if an armed insurrection in America took place that it would actually succeed in overthrowing the government? (See 1861-1865) The only thing these guns will do is allow every day Americans to kill other every day Americans if social order breaks down in our country. We have a way of changing our government and it's in elections.
    I am glad you see my point, it is very clear once people take the time to think about it, that concealed carry is a violation of every majority member who comes in contact with another with a hidden death device. We know this, so why don't our politicians know this? They do, but we don't control our politicians a present, the money system does, for sure it is time to change the system that controls our politicians after we elect them.
  • Republican
    Oregon
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    There is a word for people who dont like guns... targets. I have carried a concealed weapon for many years. I live near Clackamas mall in Oregon and go there a lot with my family. When some idiot goes off his meds around me and my family, we wont be the victims. If you want to see what happens to crime rates when gun bans are put into effect watch this youtube video http://youtu.be/GFGtl3R5KDU
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    2nd Amend


    You are talking of two subjects, concealed carry and gun bans. What, there should be no rules what so ever when it comes to guns? Why, because of the second amendment, not. The second amendment has nothing to do with rules concerning your gun, lucky, because if there were no rules, you would be packing a full automatic concealed sub machine gun, wonder how many innocent by standers will die then when you go protect your family in a crowed mall? Did you even consider the ones you will kill now protecting your family? Didn't think so, let me spell it out, gun owners are not the only ones with rights.
  • Republican
    Oregon
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    I do agree with you. When you pull the trigger on a gun you have no control where that shot will go. There is a thin line between the hero in a pack movie theater vs. being the guy that wounded someone else trying to stop some crazy. I dont know anyone with a concealed carry permit that believes in the "spray and pray" method of shooting. It is a heavy responsibility to pull a gun and have to shoot someone. I hope I never have to, BUT I carry so I have the choice.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    "2ndamend" I absolutely do not understand your code name; therefore read the following.
    (this was related as reply to an statement of a Repub. senator):

    I absolutely do not understand why people like that live on an "island" and refuse to look beyond the borders of this country how things can be done much better related to gun safety. Just holding onto a 1776 document and trying to interprete it to this time and age is pure childish; the US has become the laughing stock of the world. Normal countries adapt their laws to the modern times without any problem. It is part of Democracy in modern times. People who wrote Constitutions always were aware of changes in societies, that is why you have "amendments" the same as the "2nd one", which according to the gun fanatics is cut in stone and applies to 2013, added with their own invented interpretations. One word: NUTS.
  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    Once again Dutch you make a clear, objective and reasonable response to those that believe THEIR rights are more important than OUR rights!
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    pr Wrote: Once again Dutch you make a clear, objective and reasonable response to those that believe THEIR rights are more important than OUR rights!
    There are far more rights being violated by concealed carry than are being honored by it, in fact, concealed carry is not a right given to us in the constitution, it is a right given to us thanks to the money system, a system that is an infringement of all American rights and values. The system is the reason pot is considered the worse drug in the world by our Federal Government still today, the system is the reason we have morons walking around with hidden death devices legally, I would say it is far past time to change the system, wouldn't you, before we start rewriting the constitution to help the system get away with violating more of our rights as Americans?
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    In 2012 the gun sales inthe US totalled 11,7 billion; the expected growfh of sales for 2013 is estimated at 3.5%. So NRA congratulations, you won the superbowl of gun sales, where should I sent this medal? I guess whole of Newtown will be invited at the ceremony!!!
    I can only say I pity this country; how many more death by guns in 2013?
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    Yes for sure Dutch, very sad but what can be done about it?