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Why Have an Exclusive "Disabled Veterans Tax", Taxing ONLY Disabled Veterans?

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  • Independent
    Sierra Vista, AZ
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    As many Republican value "no less taxes", why do they insist in taxing disabled veterans with an exclusive "Disabled Veterans Tax." Because Democrats want to end this tax? ONLY service-connected disabled veterans pay this Disabled Veterans Tax, no other Americans pay a tax, directly linked to their level of disabilities. The greater the disability, the greater the tax paid by the disabled veteran's out of their medical retirement pay. As a 100% unemployable disabled veteran, I must pay 100% of my medical retirement to this tax. You may hide it under a name called "Concurrent Receipt" or something else, it is still nothing more than taxing ONLY disabled veterans forced into medical retirement because their disabilities were too great for the veterans to serve 20 years of active service. The military legally punishes disabled service-members with an early end of career because their service-connected disabilities were too great for continued service, forcing them into possible financial hardships, identifying them as Chapter 61 Medical Retirees is not punishment enough for Congress. Congress has to selectively identify these Chapter 61 Medical Retirees and punish them more by ONLY taxing them based upon the percentage of disability. The greater the disability, the greater the tax these service-connected disabled veterans must pay directly out of their medical retirements.

    As a 100% disabled veteran, my entire medical retirement pay is forfeited to the government because I became disabled before serving 20 years of service (19 and a half years served). If I had a half a year more active service, I would not have to pay this tax. Over the past 10 years of this lie called medical retirement, I paid over $200,000 to your Disabled Veterans Tax. I am one of over 120,000 disabled veterans whom lost part or all of their medical "so-called" retirement. Now with the new drawdown of forces, more service-members will be forced medically retired before their careers can end, only to lose part of all of their medical retirement. Congress, why tax your disabled veterans this way? Is the answer, because they became disabled serving their OUR country and therefore deserve the additional discrimination and punishment from Congress?
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Here is your answer again:

    Sorry you took this stupid job and must have known the consequences, so why complain?. If you take any job, read first the conditions before you sign. If you are a roofer and fall of the roof, bad luck or buy insurance beforehand. Also in your job then you know in advance that people hate your guts because you invaded their land and therefore may want to kill you. So who's fault is it ? Go complain at Bushes and Cheney's villa please !!

    Please read the fine print first before you take a job!!! You are still lucky you are alive, after you sold your soul!!
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    Independent
    Central, FL
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    Dale,
    It sounds like you're on a tough road. That's a little surprising as it's popular to say that you support veterans. Have you contacted your states politicians ? Have you contacted your local veterans groups ? What have they said ? There's a group called the DAV Disabled American Veterans. I am sure that you are aware of them. I think they would want to hear about your case and the situations that veterans are facing. Also the VFW, Veterans of Foreign Wars. They should have people that you can talk to.
    Good luck to you,
  • Independent
    Sierra Vista, AZ
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    I took this job, U. S. Soldier, to save lives, not to kill lives. I personally killed no one nor injured anyone. Soldiers first hate wars, but fight to protect our country and our families. As for insurance, I was promised free medical, Congress changed this promise by implementing their new Tricare program, breaking the promise given to me. They also promised me a medical retirement, started paying me for my medical retirement, and then made me pay this Disabled Veterans Tax for my medical service-connected disabilities. People may hate my guts, apparently you do. I hope you can lose your hate as this hate can lead invading people's land, killing people innocently, as Bin Laden did with his attacks on the twin towers. We did not ask for Bin Laden's war, it was forced upon us. Who's fault is it? Congress's fault for creating such a discriminating law targeting their Disabled Veterans. Bush and Cheney can do nothing about it, therefore, I complain to the people have can so something to fix this discriminating law, Congress. Reading the fine print does not help when Congress keeps changing the fine print, with broken promises.

    As for my selling my soul, I sold it to God. I pray you too can see God's goodness and learn to end your hate. God Bless you and thanks for responding.
  • Independent
    Sierra Vista, AZ
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    Yes it is a tough road. I have talked to my Congressmen asking them to take action. I had some article published, trying to protect our current disabled troops from loosing their retirements, like the 121,000 veterans already forced into medical retirement. I don't want to see these service-members face the hardships of an early end of their careers, with the added future lose of their forced-medical retirements as well. DAV, Military Times, and Army Times have also mentions articles about this discrimination by Congress. VFW, not so much because the CRSP covers veterans in wartime environments, but not service-members in the rear, not placed into the war environment. President Obama promised to end Concurrent Receipt during his first term, but Congress refuses to vote on any bills ending this discriminating law.

    I am trying multiple avenues to inform people of this discriminating law and to protect our troops from further discrimination against their service-connected disabilities.

    Thank you for your suggestions, your input, and God Bless.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Dale I think Mcclellan had a good suggestion. Various veterans organizations will probably get you some help either directly or can advise you where to look but you may have to join them.

    You and other military veterans are not the only persons that have been screwed by the US government. Broken promises are not uncommon. That's why Congress approval rating is at or close to 10% they take care of themselves and don't much care for the rest of us.

    I don't think Dutch hates you personally, maybe so, but I don't think so. I think he has strong negative feeling for the US military as a whole and you are here representing the military.
  • Independent
    Sierra Vista, AZ
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    Yes, I think Mcclellan had good suggestions as well. I currently belong to DAV and subscribe to the Army Times. I checked into VFW and I do not qualify as I have never been in a combat arena. These organizations and the Military Times try to inform both veterans and active service-members on the latest Congressional policies.

    Military.com also has a link helping service-members/veterans write to their Congressmen and our President. This site makes it simple, you type your message, enter your zip-code, and they provide you with you local Congressmen, e-mail links and an anti-spam screening, preventing people from spamming our law makers. Once the message is typed up, we can preview it and then the website forwards them. You have to be a member of military.com to access this website.

    Every time I see a different military doctor, as I do for my many health problems, I personally inform them of the repercussions of the medical separation board requirements, hoping the take serious consideration for disabled service-members sudden end of career, possibly causing financial hardships, and the possible forfeiture of part or all of the disabled service-member's medical retirement pay. Most military doctors are unaware of the possible hardships and laws regarding this Congressional discrimination.

    My goal is not to restore just my retirement and restore dignity, but to protect the disabled service-members, or at least inform them of what is to come with the downsizing of our military, separating the disabled first from the military. 121,000 veterans is too much and more on the way to this Congressional punishment for becoming disabled.

    As for Dutch, you are probably right. I read some of is other postings where he states he is an "Atheist" and Atheists don't believe in living souls. I think he is just venting issues.



    Thank you for your post. God Bless.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    As "jamesn" said of course I do not have anything against you, however what I noticed that Veterans in general are very good treated here.
    Everywhere discounts or services; discounted bus fares etc. Also I see that there is a continuous ad on TV for Army Veterans services etc.
    So I'm totally surprised about your problem. The point I'm making is that if anyone takes a job, whatever it may be, then you should do research, before you take this job. That is one of the reason I never went into the military. Point one; you sell your body and soul to someone you can not trust ( like you found out now) who is only interested to fill the pockets of the war industry, not yours!! Politics decide your future; you did not save this country; there is a new threat every day. So the next sucker gets killed. You can claim you did not kill anyone, but helped in doing it anyway. For your info, did it make this country any safer after more than 6000 soldiers were killed for only 2300 9/11 victims? Let alone the cost and the 100,000's of civilians killed who you never met. No you can complain about yourself, but you've got it a hell of a lot better than the poor farmers families in Iraq and Afghanistan etc. who's family got murdered, than you. So be thankfull !!!
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    As for the atheist issue; I certainly do not hate people; everyone can believe what they want. I certainly do not attack you because of any religion. The only thing I hope that you because of your dilema, see and warn young kids before they want to play Rambo in the army. It is like if a shark bites of your arm; the shark is not giving it back nor fixes it. That is how a government works and the money hungry industry who keeps wars alive.
    I lost parents thanks to Hitler so I know how it feels; sorry this helped my aversion for wars; you are now a victim of it. So my excuses, I only wanted to wake you up to reality in this corrupt world.
  • Independent
    Sierra Vista, AZ
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    This country is based on fairness, though it is still unfair. That is the purpose of my issue. Congress passes the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), however, leave a clause within the ADA to apply to non-government agencies (civilians). I don't like saying this, but it is a hypocritical law to say everyone must obey their laws, except themselves. Many Congressmen do believe their laws do not apply to themselves and they believe they are often above the laws they make. As you stated, politics do decides my future.

    I did not sell my body and soul to the United States, my soul belongs to God. The atrocities you mentioned about the number of U. S. Service-members, the 9/11 victims and the many people in Afgan and Iraq are pretty accurate. However, I blame the instigators Bin Laden, Saddam Hussian and their forces for these wars. Has our forces saved lives in America? To a certain extent, yes. Where live lost innocently by our forces, yes. But how do you explain the Bath Party and the Taliban giving weapons to men and to boys, with the threat of "Kill Americans Or We (the Bath Party and the Taliban) Kill Your Families". My condolences and prayers go to these lost and broken families, to include yours.

    But that is not my point. Veterans are not being treated as well as you imply with the lost health, their jobs, having a higher unemployment rate than the rest of our country. I did not serve in these wars, my war was the Cold War. I can say that I saved lives by my service, and not killed them. I was forcibly removed from the military for my service-connected disabilities prior to 9/11. I am non longer employable with organ losses and damages. My health degrades a little more each day. You say I should be thankful. I thank God each day I continue on this Earth. In any other country, my health is a death sentence.

    Now my fight is to keep my family going. To live each day to be able to save up for their futures. Is that wrong in your books? I believe you would do the same for your family as well. So, I fight by using my voice and my access to forums, like this one, to protect my family and to help other disabled service-members, veterans and their families by warning them of the legal Congressional discriminations they may face. Is that wrong?

    Take care and God Bless.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    Dale you say that this country is based on fairness though it is still unfair. If we are making a list of the unfairness in this country it will be a very long list. Life is not fair. If you have been unfairly treated by the US government, join the crowd. Thanks for your service and good luck with your situation just remember that Congress always takes very good care of themselves, but don't expect them to care about the rest of us.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Yes "jamesn" said it right; indeed you are treated unfairly so I apologize again and thank you for your full explanation. I had the impression before that you came out of Iraq or Afghanistan. The only thing I can recommend and you must have experience with it; keep fighting the bureaucratie; I see daily an ad about a military organisation (forgot the name) who takes care of veterans, can they do nothing for you? Or contact your local TV station and try to get an interview etc. Or have booth at a fair with pamflets etc. combine that with other veterans in the same situation. God bless (that from an atheist!!)