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Wolves, animal cruelty at its worst

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  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    All of mankind is afraid to be bit by a dog still today, why, because it is primal instinct to fear being eaten alive by a wolf, starting back when wolves were on top of the food chain, back when man lived in caves.

    When man became the top of the food chain, they killed every wolf in site, for a very good reason. Not because they had to fear being eaten alive anymore like the deer still do, but because they knew what the wolves were going to do, eat the same food that man wants to eat. One wolf doesn't just kill for food and sport seventy deer a year, the same deer man wanted to eat, but that same wolf that killed seventy deer a year was also going to kill man’s livestock, the farm animals’ man depended on also to survive.

    I just saw on TV, a wolf at the Humane Society that was up for adoption. The news announcer said, “Aw, he is so cute, it looks like wolves get a bad rap for no reason.” Talk about a statement so far from the truth! Not only did we get rid of wolves because they killed our animals for sport and food, but to this day, a wolf will have no problem dragging your small child a way to be eaten alive. Think about this, would you want to be the deer that died fast from my arrow, or one of seventy deer that will be ran down then eaten alive by a wolf? You can call the wolf kill natural; I call it animal cruelty at its worst. Humane man got rid of the wolf, inhumane auto insurance companies brought them back to kill deer more efficiently but by far crueler than a hunter's maybe one kill.
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    Ft.myers, FL
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    "united" I wonder a bit about your phylosophy; when humans had no influence on "nature" then "nature" was in perfect balance; all animals were healthy, because of the balance. At that time the wolves out of instinct killed only the "weaker/sick" ones which was sufficient food for them, so they did not have to kill the healthy ones. Due to human influence the "food" chain for these animals has been altered due to; human land development, taking other animals to extinction, polution, noise, roads, importing snakes from Africa and letting these loose in the FL swamps etc. Thus a total imbalance!! So in other words you can blame the wolves, but the worst "wolves" are "humans". We ruin nature, not the wolves.
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    Plymouth, WI
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    Dutch Wrote: "united" I wonder a bit about your phylosophy; when humans had no influence on "nature" then "nature" was in perfect balance; all animals were healthy, because of the balance. At that time the wolves out of instinct killed only the "weaker/sick" ones which was sufficient food for them, so they did not have to kill the healthy ones. Due to human influence the "food" chain for these animals has been altered due to; human land development, taking other animals to extinction, polution, noise, roads, importing snakes from Africa and letting these loose in the FL swamps etc. Thus a total imbalance!! So in other words you can blame the wolves, but the worst "wolves" are "humans". We ruin nature, not the wolves.
    You are right, the only problem with wolves, is the fact man and wolf do not get along, nor can live together, this is why man got rid of the wolves after populating our counties. Sure, bring the wolves back, but then we better leave. Of course we need national parks, do we need the wolves there too, not if we are going to be there for sure we don't. The wolves are not only a problem for the deer, but they of course are killing live stock and family dogs in the counties the wolves were returned to. It is clear, either we go or the wolf has to go, this is clear to some, profit for insurance companies at the expense of deer having to run for their life all year, and other animals and pets, and that's not the worse that can happen to us with the return of man's primal enemy.
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    Ft.myers, FL
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    "united" I lived in Canada for 10 years; been up in the North West Territories way up to the border with Alska (Injuvik, Aklavik); wolves are part of live there as well as around Edmonton and Yellowknife. At night you hear them howl. As I said I went hunting; no problem at all with these wolves, only after you have a "kill" then you have to watch out. As I said if nature like up there stays in balance then also the wolves stay in balance.
    I get the impression that in the area you live or hunt, humans intruded into the natural landscape by farming, roads, introducing domesticated cattle, as well as restricting their habitat etc. causing an imbalance of which you are now being confronted.
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    Plymouth, WI
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    Dutch Wrote: "united" I lived in Canada for 10 years; been up in the North West Territories way up to the border with Alska (Injuvik, Aklavik); wolves are part of live there as well as around Edmonton and Yellowknife. At night you hear them howl. As I said I went hunting; no problem at all with these wolves, only after you have a "kill" then you have to watch out. As I said if nature like up there stays in balance then also the wolves stay in balance.
    I get the impression that in the area you live or hunt, humans intruded into the natural landscape by farming, roads, introducing domesticated cattle, as well as restricting their habitat etc. causing an imbalance of which you are now being confronted.
    I live in WI, and the whole state is facing the return of the wolf. Like you pointed out, where there is not a lot of man, wolves are fine, but also like you said, where man has populated the wolves once land, there is a problem, a huge problem for the state of WI and many other states, where insurance lobby money has gotten the once man killed off for a good reason wolf back in the wild. Sure we need wolves where we don't have man, but where man is, we can't have wolves, for a very good reason.