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    The past several decades since 1960, I recall many propaganda events that get us (U.S.) all up into the war mood. I was too young to see the events leading to Vietnam, but I studied it later and remembered the reading about evil communists taking over the world. Yes, they were exercising power in parts of the world, but it is the propaganda that was preached in many circles of the media that I find disgusting. China and Russia introduced us to the cold war. China had us experience a war marching in Korea and later in Vietnam. In Russia it was the famous shoe hammer on the desk that stunned us with they intent to bury us with nukes. We put the hammer down on Cuba during the missile crisis. We move on to the middle east stiring up Israel, Egypt and the US puppet Shaw of Iran. That appears to me as being the first rising of propaganda in that part of the Islam world. We had our engagement of southeastern Europe between the Serbs and Burbs. Than a fun little war developed in Granada, yea fun. That showed the media some interesting events starting in Latin America, the drug trade, Russia and missiles in our back yard and oh yes our military advisors being sent into Honduras, Columbia and other South American countries. We called them military advisors, but they were actually highly skilled specialists that were mercenaries. We again got anxious and became involved in Africa and especially South Africa. One thing that I can remember about many of these war events is several months prior to a war a media exchange pump up the American resolve to accept our involvement. This media exchange is a result of a little known US Government agency that is skilled in propaganda. Propaganda is extremely important getting the country into the mood. I try propaganda on my wife, but she's wiser now and it gets harder to achieve results. If only America could become wiser in order to recognize propaganda for what it is. It gets us ready to accept what THEY want you to approve and do what they want you to do.

    A classic point is currently being discussed in the media....the IRAQ war. Everybody needs to realize what the presidents office was doing to encourage us to accept getting involved. I am not a bleeding heart liberal and I am not a raging war hawk. I will fight for my country and for freedom, but I am very disturbed when I find out that people lied to me to accept something if I had known the reality. Many would not volunteer if they were wiser. Our country right or wrong, I don't subscribe to that philosophy. Please be thruthful than I can make an informed decision. This New War developing in the world, which one? Pick one! There are several starting. Get your playbook out because it looks like the NCAA playoffs to the final four. All these key points in starting a war for us to get involved has its roots into business investments (oil, precious metals, materials and products) and those who get us Americans into the battle use propaganda. Be ready to recognize it. It will help make wiser decisions. I don't believe we have a new war, just old ones with new directions to stir up a country. Yemen is just another Granada when you think about the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Canada getting involved.
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    AmcmurryFreedom Wrote: The past several decades since 1960, I recall many propaganda events that get us (U.S.) all up into the war mood. I was too young to see the events leading to Vietnam, but I studied it later and remembered the reading about evil communists taking over the world. Yes, they were exercising power in parts of the world, but it is the propaganda that was preached in many circles of the media that I find disgusting. China and Russia introduced us to the cold war. China had us experience a war marching in Korea and later in Vietnam. In Russia it was the famous shoe hammer on the desk that stunned us with they intent to bury us with nukes. We put the hammer down on Cuba during the missile crisis. We move on to the middle east stiring up Israel, Egypt and the US puppet Shaw of Iran. That appears to me as being the first rising of propaganda in that part of the Islam world. We had our engagement of southeastern Europe between the Serbs and Burbs. Than a fun little war developed in Granada, yea fun. That showed the media some interesting events starting in Latin America, the drug trade, Russia and missiles in our back yard and oh yes our military advisors being sent into Honduras, Columbia and other South American countries. We called them military advisors, but they were actually highly skilled specialists that were mercenaries. We again got anxious and became involved in Africa and especially South Africa. One thing that I can remember about many of these war events is several months prior to a war a media exchange pump up the American resolve to accept our involvement. This media exchange is a result of a little known US Government agency that is skilled in propaganda. Propaganda is extremely important getting the country into the mood. I try propaganda on my wife, but she's wiser now and it gets harder to achieve results. If only America could become wiser in order to recognize propaganda for what it is. It gets us ready to accept what THEY want you to approve and do what they want you to do.

    A classic point is currently being discussed in the media....the IRAQ war. Everybody needs to realize what the presidents office was doing to encourage us to accept getting involved. I am not a bleeding heart liberal and I am not a raging war hawk. I will fight for my country and for freedom, but I am very disturbed when I find out that people lied to me to accept something if I had known the reality. Many would not volunteer if they were wiser. Our country right or wrong, I don't subscribe to that philosophy. Please be thruthful than I can make an informed decision. This New War developing in the world, which one? Pick one! There are several starting. Get your playbook out because it looks like the NCAA playoffs to the final four. All these key points in starting a war for us to get involved has its roots into business investments (oil, precious metals, materials and products) and those who get us Americans into the battle use propaganda. Be ready to recognize it. It will help make wiser decisions. I don't believe we have a new war, just old ones with new directions to stir up a country. Yemen is just another Granada when you think about the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Canada getting involved.
    Yes you got the right vision; but as you said do we ever learn and get sucked into something again for the "x" time? The thing what worries me is indeed the "media" nowadays they can portray things in just about 3D and can make a womanof 300 pounds look like a 130 pound one; so manupulation of news can indeed be done such way that we all believe it. If they can make "jesus" movies; then anything is possible.
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    Dutch
    You are looking at "media" as it exists today. I am looking at media over recorded history. We are talking about 5500 years unless you include things like pictures inside caves.
    The presentation has ranged from stone tablets 5500 years ago to the high tech of today. The message hasn't really changed only the presentation and, if you like, the percentage of those exposed to it. As a nation we have switched from being "a defender" to being an "aggressor". The role we play did not happen overnight it happened over decades.
    In Iran, Mossadegh believed that the country be both Independent and democratic. A part of his plan was to nationalize the oil industry. His threat to nationalize the reserves did not sit well with the corporate elite governing the US at that time (and still are today). Our alliance with the Shah did in fact reap us geostrategic and economic benefits for decades, he amassed a great wealth and the people of the nation suffered. We most likely would not have set the stage for the hostage situation or for that matter 911 if we had left Mossadegh alone. I haven’t found much good information on the involvement of the CIA; but I am sure they played an important role.
    Manuel Noriega was put into power by the CIA and there is no doubt that that they, the CIA, had knowledge of his involvement in drug trafficking and money laundering right from the beginning. Only when his involvement became general knowledge was something done about it. The US invasion of 1989 removed Noriega from office.
    We can ask ourselves if it was the media setting the attitudes of the people or were special interests using the media to set the attitudes. There is a major difference between the media making a mild news event into a spectacular event and providing false information to the media. I see media as being used by the government and special interests.
    Most media is concerned with ratings, market share etc, if they could improve their position by giving the public 24 hours a day of Popeye cartoons they would do it. Technology gave us mobile devices and it was the users that spend their waking hours being connected. It is the movie goers that want the action movies which drives the markets. Special Interests are now controlling a higher percentage of the media with televangelism controlling an extremely large market. Political extremists are another influence that is taking control. Those most of us see these as a danger to free thought but they exist because we allow free speech.
    Did the Tea Party obtain power because of their Fundamentalist Christian views or did they do it with their cry “It’s my money and I want to keep it.”
    I’ll say it again, I worry more about people like Lee Bellinger and Pat Buchannan, and Jimmy Swaggatt (though of less importance now) than I do about a Rambo movie. These are the people that can push the buttons.
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    jperry Wrote: Dutch
    You are looking at "media" as it exists today. I am looking at media over recorded history. We are talking about 5500 years unless you include things like pictures inside caves.
    The presentation has ranged from stone tablets 5500 years ago to the high tech of today. The message hasn't really changed only the presentation and, if you like, the percentage of those exposed to it. As a nation we have switched from being "a defender" to being an "aggressor". The role we play did not happen overnight it happened over decades.
    In Iran, Mossadegh believed that the country be both Independent and democratic. A part of his plan was to nationalize the oil industry. His threat to nationalize the reserves did not sit well with the corporate elite governing the US at that time (and still are today). Our alliance with the Shah did in fact reap us geostrategic and economic benefits for decades, he amassed a great wealth and the people of the nation suffered. We most likely would not have set the stage for the hostage situation or for that matter 911 if we had left Mossadegh alone. I haven’t found much good information on the involvement of the CIA; but I am sure they played an important role.
    Manuel Noriega was put into power by the CIA and there is no doubt that that they, the CIA, had knowledge of his involvement in drug trafficking and money laundering right from the beginning. Only when his involvement became general knowledge was something done about it. The US invasion of 1989 removed Noriega from office.
    We can ask ourselves if it was the media setting the attitudes of the people or were special interests using the media to set the attitudes. There is a major difference between the media making a mild news event into a spectacular event and providing false information to the media. I see media as being used by the government and special interests.
    Most media is concerned with ratings, market share etc, if they could improve their position by giving the public 24 hours a day of Popeye cartoons they would do it. Technology gave us mobile devices and it was the users that spend their waking hours being connected. It is the movie goers that want the action movies which drives the markets. Special Interests are now controlling a higher percentage of the media with televangelism controlling an extremely large market. Political extremists are another influence that is taking control. Those most of us see these as a danger to free thought but they exist because we allow free speech.
    Did the Tea Party obtain power because of their Fundamentalist Christian views or did they do it with their cry “It’s my money and I want to keep it.”
    I’ll say it again, I worry more about people like Lee Bellinger and Pat Buchannan, and Jimmy Swaggatt (though of less importance now) than I do about a Rambo movie. These are the people that can push the buttons.
    I guess you missed my point of the "technology" in reporting; nowadays you can make the "picture" itself different than it really is. As an example if a woman has pimples, you can "erase" those; if a missile hit a house somewhere you can change the logo on it etc. So news can be much easier manipulated than ever before; Reworking it has become a new art form.