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  • Democrat
    Julian, CA
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    "The Most Environmentally Destructive Project of the Year Award" goes to that insane oil pipeline from Canada to the Gulf.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    I sure agree Connie, I was adamantly against this project almost from its onset. There is no way this "expensive" oil, having to go through how many extra steps than regular ground-pumped oil--like extraction from the shale, separation from the shale itself, and probably even a "cleaning" cycle to eliminate shale-contamination--can even come close to competing price-wise with all the U.S. locally-produced, and even most imported raw crude oil the U.S. receives for the refineries. Sure these imported oils have the so-called transportation fee attached, but the Canadian crude will have the pipeline transporting attached, in addition to cost of the steps I have mentioned above. Just ask yourself "What U.S. oil company would be willing to pay this extra cost?" It would almost certainly make their delivery price to their customers higher than those of any competitors who are not using this same crude from Canada. As money-hungry as all oil companies seem to be, I just can't see this being a success, unless the other world markets would dry up.
  • Independent
    San Diego, CA
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    Climate pollution from the bitumen sands industry is already considerable and this pipeline only makes it worse. This not only affects the environment but also takes away a hell lot of jobs from the Canandian workers. The threat of global warming is beyond sane dispute,but for those whose wealth and power depends on this enterprises deny there is a problem.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Just for the info; they just discovered a new "field" in the North Atlantic and some company is putting 18 billion into it to develop; it seems to be a huge field, so that could solve this problem as well. However I know too little about it, but wonder under who's (country?) control it falls or is it in international waters? Also the question is when will it actually produce.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    the question is when will it actually produce. The answer is probably years but it will never produce unless they develop it and the sooner they get started, they sooner it will produce. Money is the driving force. If they think they can make money they will develop it and if they think it becomes economically unprofitable they will not develop it or stop developing it. Money is the answer.
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    Independent
    Central, FL
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    Dutch Wrote: Just for the info; they just discovered a new "field" in the North Atlantic and some company is putting 18 billion into it to develop; it seems to be a huge field, so that could solve this problem as well. However I know too little about it, but wonder under who's (country?) control it falls or is it in international waters? Also the question is when will it actually produce.
    It's Exxon and it's in the Atlantic off to the east of Canada. Near where the Titanic sank.
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/01/17/news/economy/exxon-offshore-drilling/index.html
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Thanks; appreciate that; never knew the Titanic had that much oil!! Just kidding!! So the question is who gets the royalties? Canada?
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    Depends on its location. If in International waters, it will belong to the discovering firm/country. But I don't know about one thing: let's say they discovered it in International waters, BUT the "field" extends into Canadian territory. The legalities would be way too deep (no pun intended) for me.