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Republician would rather crash the gov't and the economy than see Pres. Obama re-elected by a strong recovery!

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    The American public paid for an economy recovery! In spite of republician opposition, we passed a Stimulus Bill. In Erie County our Republicans County Executive said rather than hire people, create jobs, or do needed construction projects, he banked the money. Spent not one dime, and layoff people off, cut jobs. Talk about fueling a recession!
    This is the concerted actions that Repbulician governors took, not to accept or spend stimulus funds, so that the economic recovery would failed. Screw the American public, no recovery is worth a 2nd term for Obama. This is the #1 Republican agenda. Now they are mad because in spite of them holding the whole government hostage with the spending bills. In spite of the banks sitting on billions available loans for businesses. The recovery is not being held back by the Repbulican dam!
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    Because of the obstructionism in Congress, ad the Tea Party's stated objective--to have a one term president on Obama--it is clear that they were willing to sacrifice the middle class, and never mind about the poor. I have never seen such intransigence as the tea party demonstrated. The idea is to govern, and not to actively try and stop work being done to help the economy. Those people want to keep the moneygrab from the middle class, and they wan to have the same opportunities in the future.
    Yes, I believe that there is a "holdback" regarding emplyment by companies that are sitting on millions or billions. They are willing to outwait the election, and never mind that maybe a couple of generations,or more, are being affected by it. Shame! And shame on the tea party, and those Republicans who ought ot know better who ought to listen to their conscience!
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    Steal the election indeed. I have a question. How is it that the Fox News Channel is the only News Channel that has a "soundbite" or news clip of President Barak Obama in the Rose Garden of the White House WITHOUT I repeat, WITHOUT Hillary Clinton at his side when making his speech on September 12th? What sound bite or news clip are they showing the American Public? It certainly was not the September 12th news clip.

    So yes they will do anything to steal this election. The American Public should be made aware of this.
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    I was raised in a Republican house and even though my mom isn't the best person to be able to represent the Republican views I often have talks with her. I asked her a simple question. Knowing what you know today. If you could go back in time, knowing that the Bush Administration would crash the economy, start a war in Iraq, strip civil liberties and generally go down in history as almost the worst U.S. President (all stuff she generally concedes were terrible and the fault of the Bush Admin) would you change to vote to Gore or Kerry?

    Her reply was "I thank God that Gore was not President after 9/11, so no I wouldn't."

    Me:"9/11 was pretty much a no-brainer response. 99% of all lawmakers agreed to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan. It was the Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, that Gore would have likely handled differently. Would you change your vote in 2004?

    Her: "No, I do not agree with the Dem platform."

    Me:"Does it not feel weird to say that? That you would vote for a guy that you were 100% sure would create the worst U.S. economy since the 30's and cost millions of people their jobs just because you don't agree with the other guy?"

    I'm guessing she did feel a little weird saying that because she changed the subject to Libya.

    I know that debates, campaigns, and speeches are not aimed at audiences like my mom. And there are people who not vote for the "other guy" under any circumstances on both sides of the aisle. I just think it's terrible when people stop looking at facts and just go with their guy feeling no matter what.
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    Zach F Wrote: I was raised in a Republican house and even though my mom isn't the best person to be able to represent the Republican views I often have talks with her. I asked her a simple question. Knowing what you know today. If you could go back in time, knowing that the Bush Administration would crash the economy, start a war in Iraq, strip civil liberties and generally go down in history as almost the worst U.S. President (all stuff she generally concedes were terrible and the fault of the Bush Admin) would you change to vote to Gore or Kerry?

    Her reply was "I thank God that Gore was not President after 9/11, so no I wouldn't."

    Me:"9/11 was pretty much a no-brainer response. 99% of all lawmakers agreed to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan. It was the Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11, that Gore would have likely handled differently. Would you change your vote in 2004?

    Her: "No, I do not agree with the Dem platform."

    Me:"Does it not feel weird to say that? That you would vote for a guy that you were 100% sure would create the worst U.S. economy since the 30's and cost millions of people their jobs just because you don't agree with the other guy?"

    I'm guessing she did feel a little weird saying that because she changed the subject to Libya.

    I know that debates, campaigns, and speeches are not aimed at audiences like my mom. And there are people who not vote for the "other guy" under any circumstances on both sides of the aisle. I just think it's terrible when people stop looking at facts and just go with their guy feeling no matter what.


    Dear Zach, I feel for you growing up in a Republican household. But you seem to have arrived in a sanity zone all the same and that is admirable. I was born in 1933 of parents who were truly ground down and spit out by the system. They campaigned for Roosevelt in '32. In my early childhood I witness some of the horrors brought upon folks by uinbridled capitalism. In my lifetime I have moved far to the left of my prents, but I understand where they and folks like them were coming from. Unlike millions of voters today those people had a political philosophy. They understood exactly what Republicans stood for and you could hold their feet to the fire and not get them to vote Republican. A great many people today have no philosophy. They vote for the person who appeals to them on grounds other than political background. Republicans have always ....always.... championed the rich at the expense of workers and the poor.....That is the foundation of Republicanism. They unanimously voted against Social Security when it was enacted. Ditto Workman's Comp, Safety laws in the workplace.....anything that made life bearable for folks who had little or nothing. They also opposed Medicare and Medicaid and are determined to get rid of all these programs as soon as they have the power to do so. It is understandable that the rich would support the Vampire Party....and they do. But how do you get a working person who will be lost without this safety net to vote for a party that wants to cut his/her throat ? You make sure they don't develop a political philosophy....that's how. You make sure they remain ignorant of political history and support the candidate with the best wise cracks or the sharpest crease in his pants......So I would say a reasonable voter should not consider candidates " on both sides of the aisle " but support those who represent a solid political philosophy which shows clearly which side of the bread their butter is on. Mitt Romney is not about creating jobs or reducing the deficit. He wants to give the rich free access to the US Treasury. This has ALWAYS been the objective of Republicans. Look at the past Republican administrations. This is exactly what they did. The fact that so many working people are supporting Romney makes me wonder if democracy has a future in this country.