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the Declaraton of Independance, Pursuit of Happiness and Roman Catholic Teaching on Economics

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    Both VP Joe Biden and Challenger Paul Ryan are Roman Catholics: how devout remains to be seen,

    Everyone who has grown up and gone to school in the USA has, at one time or another, memorized these words:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

    Pursuit of Happiness: According to the Supreme Court, the pursuit of happiness is defined as: "...one of the "unalienable rights" of people enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, along with "life" and "liberty." "The right to pursue any lawful business or vocation, in any manner not inconsistent with the equal rights of others, which may increase their prosperity or develop their faculties, so as to give them their highest enjoyment." Butchers' Co. v. Crescent City Co., 111 U.S. 746, 757, (1884.)"

    i.e.; to increase their prosperity by participating in the economy in a manner not inconsistent with the equal rights of others.

    The Roman Catholic Church teaches that the economy exists for the person, not the person for the economy.

    Thus, economic justice for all is intrinsically intertwined with our declaration of independence

    Pease read this Statement of the U.S. Catholic Bishops "A Catholic Framework for Economic Life" from November 1996. .

    http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/economic-justice-...
    Also read

    http://unionsandsocialjustice.wordpress.com/2012/10/07/a-partial-critique-of-th...

    Debate questions and strategires for Ryan should probably be based on these and he asked how his budget and policies jive with his Roman Catholic beliefs
    The Book of Sirach, Chapter 34, verses 25-27, “The bread of charity is life itself for the needy; whoever withholds it is a murderer. To take away a neighbor’s living is to commit murder; to deny a laborer wages is to shed blood.”
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    We hold these truths to self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the persuit of Happiness. Let us not mis-quote these sacred texts.
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    Kevin, Within the limits of thinkable thought your exposition is reasonable. But relying on the Roman church for stability is suspect. Because the Vatican only publishes these labor or economic encyclicals from time to time to justify its existence as a supposedly moral force in the world. It never has lived according to the teaching in these encyclicals, As soon as they are published they are filed away and forgotten. People who are actually opposed to everything the encyclicals espose are welcomed into the church with open arms. This is an historical fact. ......If I could play the devi;l's advocate here for a moment I'd like to present a view of "law" that is outside the limits of thinkable thought. When most people think of the law they think of the policemen who come to their homes after they've been burglarized....traffic signs that must be obeyed.....speed limits on the highway. These are the secondary aspects of law. The primary reason laws have been instituted in societies is to allow the rich to exploit the workers and the keep the workers from killing them. In a capitalist society order is necessary because exploitation is made easier in an orderly society and would be difficult in chaos. This argument is anathema in a "liberal" so called democracy. ....I am not a full blown anarchist.
    Considering the violence that exists in our capitalist society I am grateful that a police force exists to keep the crackpots from invading my home. But I am not myopic. Once the outlook I have outlined is understood the perplexing political problems we face are brought into clearer focus. Goverments exist to serve the economic ruling classes. A society rulled by the exploited majority has never existed.The government can make adjustments in its policies as when it enacts measures like Social Security and Workman's Comp. This might be called throwing a bone to the people when they become restless. But as soon as the restless masses go back to sleep the real owners of government begin their campaign to cripple or destroy the modest gains that have been made. This is what is currently happening with thje Romney/Ryuan ticket. These agents of inequity would destroy Medicare and turn the Social Security system over to Wall St. if they could. They don't want to see the US Treasury used for anything other than things like subsidies for big oil and corporations like GE. This, I admit, is a lot to swallow if you aren't familiar with the concepts. Is it worth thinking about ?
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    How about learn more facts on Roman Catholics and not just throw your opinion up in the air. Romney is a Mormin .
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    Whathappenedtohonesty Wrote: How about learn more facts on Roman Catholics and not just throw your opinion up in the air. Romney is a Mormin .


    Yes. Opinions arte like a..holes .Everyone has one. But some opinions are informed. Others are not. I don't know which poster you were referring to, but I was about as informed and active a layman as you could hope to find, and I would not rejoin that two faced organization if my life depended on it. I'll lay some "facts" on you if you like, but let me warn you.....you probably won't like them.
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    Whathappenedtohonesty Wrote: How about learn more facts on Roman Catholics and not just throw your opinion up in the air. Romney is a Mormin .


    The only facts anyone needs to know is the fact the Roman Catholics murdered and slaughter thousands in the name of Jesus. Ya think this is good? If so, I guess this is why the Catholic Church gets away with hording trillions of donated and stolen dollars, instead of using it to help the needy.