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    I am writing to you from Canada. I am following this election very carefully. You might wonder why a Canadian would care about a US election!! The outcome of this election affects everyone in the world!!! Mitt Romney is the WORST Republican candidate ever!! He is incapable of telling the truth, in fact he doesn't even think he is lying. President Obama WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT....... MITT ROMNEY FEELS HE HAS TO BE PRESIDENT TO FULFILL A MORMON PROPHECY!! He will DO ANYTHING to accomplish this goal. My husband and I are not Mormon haters, when we first moved into a small village in southern Alberta we gave them every chance. We were lied to continually. The village council (which were all Mormon) lied, cheated, stole, embezzled and it was all covered up.....until some non-Mormon residents did some digging!! We got a copy of a newspaper that was circulating in the area called Millennial North Star, which has in its content their belief that only white Mormons will enter the heavenly kingdom and a comment that any woman who held a position in government was part of whoredom!! I am not making this up, I have a copy of the paper in my possession!! When we first moved to the village (85%) Mormon were advised by several people we met "Beware of the Mormon Lie" and we see this in candidate Mitt Romney. Please, please good people of America, wake up, this man will tell more lies than you think a person is capable. President Obama is one of the best presidents the US has had and you and the world needs another 4 years of his presidency. Hopefully Mitt Romney will then just fade away, NEVER to be heard from again.
    Sincerely, Nervous In Canada
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    Wow, I never imagined that something like that could happen, and even if I could imagine it, it would NOT be in Canada. I have been to Canada with my dad fishing as a boy, and to me it (Manitoba) was as remote as anything I had ever even read about. I guess that opinion has never left me, as I had no other experience to refute it, but I probably should have realized that civilizations have a way of advancing. Anyway, I always thought Mormons were concentrated in the Western U.S., I just don't understand why a group would choose another country, but I guess they would if they were already natives of Canada.

    My question would be "What holds you and your husband there?" Maybe you are natives as well, of Canada, but not of Alberta? Or maybe the employment there is what you were after? Nonetheless, I sure can see where it would be almost impossible to live in that situation. I mean who in their right mind could concoct such a set of religious beliefs?

    If all Mormons are like this in their beliefs, then the U.S. had better wake up and stop this Romney/Ryan ticket in its tracks.
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    Denice Wrote: President Obama is one of the best presidents the US has had and you and the world needs another 4 years of his presidency. Hopefully Mitt Romney will then just fade away, NEVER to be heard from again.
    Sincerely, Nervous In Canada


    Thank you Denice.....for sharing our concern as well. Mitt Romney is a Psychopath.....a person who lies so much and have no remorse or shame doing it. I myself is so sick and tired listening to his LIES but to some or to many it does not bother them. When he's on TV I don't sit and listen, I turn channels. I think it is a waste to listen really.
    You are not the only one concern.....the whole Country of UK is VERY CONCERN. The whole country of AUSTRALIA is VERY CONCERN. Both Countries hated Mitt Romney and also his LIES along with his VP pick Paul Ryan. Please Keep praying along with us that our President will be bless to govern once again this Nation USA.
    Your quote " Hopefully Mitt Romney will then just fade away, NEVER to be heard from again" will be heaven to me. I am just so sick and tired of him LYING without abandon. When will the people wake up? I hope they will pretty soon.
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    Dear Michaels, nothing holds us there, we put our house up for sale 18 mos. after we moved there but it took 3 yrs to sell it, I think a lot of people were aware!! Just to give you a little history, the area we lived in was in the most southern part of the province of Alberta. The first Mormon temple in Canada was built in Cardston, just across the border from Montana. They settled in the area in the late 1800's We were so stunned and shocked when very nasty things starting happening. Of course they lie to you while they are smiling, that is what makes us so nervous about Mitt Romney, he sure is slick!! We try to accept all people of different religions and races so we were quite amazed by their behaviour. I made it my mission to try and understand them so I read every book I could get my hands on the Mormon faith, both pro and con. I even attempted to read the Book Of Mormon and could only stomach 3/4 of it, I just could not go on with reading such nonsense. I probably know more about their faith then they do because I looked at both sides not just the books promoting the Mormon faith. They do not believe it is a lie if they think they are lying for heavenly father, so Mitt Romney does not think he is lying at all when he flip flops and tell the most outrageous lies!! This man is dangerous.......trust us!!
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    Dear Sabrina, I also switch the channel whenever Mitt Romney comes on spewing is lies. It just gets me so upset. We know who the real Mitt Romney is and it is not good!!
    He will ruin the USA if he gets elected, of that I am sure!!
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    Thanks for the response and the insight Denice, and yes it would be traumatic for most Americans (non-wealthy) if he wins. I am praying constantly that our Heavenly Father won't allow this to happen. And good luck with your home sale.
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    Dear Denice, I have a little book published in the 40's by a psychiatrist named C.S. Blumel. He had numerous politicians as patients in the 30's and 40's. His conclusion was that pursuit of political power is a psychotic endeavor. When you think about it... what is person actually doing when they seek a national office ? In effect, aren't they saying.....I am capable of making life and death decisions for 300 million people ? Looked at from this perspective these politicians would seem to be more thsn a little cracked to begin with. A truly sane person ( if any of them still abide in the USA ) if told he or she had to take over the Presidency would fall on their knees and beg to be excused. Of course, as with all things human, some of us are more cracked than others, but to me The Mittster has whackiness dripping off him from every pore. His lust for the Presidency is so evident only the blind could miss it. I have been voting since the Eisenhower/Stevenson campaign and this Romney/ Ryan ticket is the most frightening I have ever seen and I'm including Barry Goldwater in that assessment. As for Romney ruining the US if elected ....I was born during the so called Great Depression so I've lived in the USA for a lot of decades. My experience is of a nation that is far less vital than it used to be. Truth be told- it seems to me that we are on the downhill side of histrory. Romney/Ryan could be the ones who put the last nails in the coffin......So as not to seem that the ideas I have expressed are whacky in themselves let me make this one point......The government is currently spending 2.2 million dollars per MINUTE on the military.....that's per minute. 24 hours a day year round. We have over 160 military bases and establishments in countries outside the US, and Romney says he wants to increase the military budget by a trillion dollars if I heard him right....... Do you ever get the feeling you landed on the wrong planet ?
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    So true, so true! I wish I could move to Canada, personally, but my Medicare ( or what will be left of it when the R&R team is done with it) wouldn't follow me, unfortunately.
    On a side note - I actually ran into a right-wing survivalist a few months ago (NH is full of these nuts) who wanted to do the same thing because he was afraid of the Socialist left-wing agenda!!! I guess he has never been to Canada ;)
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    I'm not sure that all Mormons believe all this. I suspect that there are sub-groups in Mormonism just as there are in every religion. You might just have one of the more extreme groups in your area, though as with so many "religious" factions, to an outsider it looks more like their chief concern is earthly power and wealth not eternal bliss or whatever.

    I will say that I do believe that Mitt Romney sold his political soul to the Tea Party to get the nomination. Prior to the debate he basically disavowed everything he did as governor but then he back-pedaled to more moderate positions during the debate. Now he's back to the right again. I have a sneaking feeling that he really doesn't like his running mate either. Mitt just wants to be president so badly that he's willing to become a different person to do it. That kind of ambition is very, very frightening.
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    The Mormons you ran across are not from the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-Day Saints. They must be some group that broke off from the mainstream. I'm a Mormon and have never heard of a publication called the Millennial North Star nor does the mainstream church believe any of those crazy things you wrote about. Mitt Romney would not hold any of those beliefs of those you knew in Canada. I just wanted to clarify. Nevertheless, I'm not voting for Romney. I will be voting for Obama as I did in 2008. I have not been impressed by Gov. Romney but feel he is probably a basically good man but a politician he is not.
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    cartel Wrote: The Mormons you ran across are not from the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-Day Saints. They must be some group that broke off from the mainstream. I'm a Mormon and have never heard of a publication called the Millennial North Star nor does the mainstream church believe any of those crazy things you wrote about. Mitt Romney would not hold any of those beliefs of those you knew in Canada. I just wanted to clarify. Nevertheless, I'm not voting for Romney. I will be voting for Obama as I did in 2008. I have not been impressed by Gov. Romney but feel he is probably a basically good man but a politician he is not.



    So Denice, what about this post from cartel? Are you originally a Mormon from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or some other sect if there actually is another sect? Can there be such different schisms within one religion's name? Curiosity has gotten the best of me, so sorry if I am asking too much.
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    cartel Wrote: The Mormons you ran across are not from the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-Day Saints. They must be some group that broke off from the mainstream. I'm a Mormon and have never heard of a publication called the Millennial North Star nor does the mainstream church believe any of those crazy things you wrote about. Mitt Romney would not hold any of those beliefs of those you knew in Canada. I just wanted to clarify. Nevertheless, I'm not voting for Romney. I will be voting for Obama as I did in 2008. I have not been impressed by Gov. Romney but feel he is probably a basically good man but a politician he is not.



    So Denice, what about this post from cartel? Are you originally a Mormon from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or some other sect if there actually is another sect? Can there be such different schisms within one religion's name? Curiosity has gotten the best of me, so sorry if I am asking too much.
    Its true from what I Know I am a Christian and they knocked on my door one day they were there 2 hours and did not mention Gods Love or Forgiveness they were just talking about Joeseph Smith and the book of Mormons when I couldnt take it anymore I told them I was a Christian. Then I asked them was it true that they believed that that Black peoples souls go where dogs go when they died they said yes but they changed that 12 years ago. Mitt Romney was a Mormon Pastor for 19 years so he believed that about black people. The President should be for all people. He lies and does not have a drop of passion in his body! I will vote for President Obama again because he does and has no personal gain to obtain.
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    Dear Cartel, Michaels and Mals, I am sorry for taking so long to respond to you questions. Yesterday was our Canadian Thanksgiving so we were busy.

    First of all I want to make clear that I did not come on the forum to Mormon bash.......I just wanted to show the similarity between what we experienced living in a Mormon community with all their continual lies and the continual lies of Mitt Romney. When my husband and I sit and watch TV and Mitt comes on with his outrageous lies we look at one another and say "look familiar?"

    No, we did not live in a community where this was a break away group like the FLDS in Bountiful, B.C. this was mainstream LDS!! Now to be fair my husband golfed with some Mormon gentleman OUTSIDE of the area and they said that they had heard the village we lived in was known for being a little odd and off base at times.

    We are not former members of the Mormon church so this is not "sour grapes" because we were excommunicated or whatever. This is just an honest report of what happened to us and other non Mormon residents of this particular village. We had never experienced such lying until Mitt Romney reared his ugly head.

    Our concern is that Mitt Romney will lie his way right into the White House and in the not too distant future the USA will be at war AGAIN with a middle east country. Surely the American people must be war weary by now. Mr. Romney says he wants to lower the deficit but then wants to pour an enormous amount of money into the defense program, adding I believe 15 more naval carriers in the region along with 2 more subs, do I have this correct?

    This mornings polls depressed me, but then I remembered that we had an election in our Province a year ago and the opposition was ahead in the polls right up to election night, and then on election night the party we were cheering for WON with a majority!! So you never know, I must say that 1-2 weeks prior to the election the opposition had made some very damaging remarks about gays and other groups, so they showed their true colours and the people of Alberta replied accordingly.

    The big thing I see is THAT YOU MUST ALL GET OUT AND VOTE AND NOT ALLOW ANY HANKY PANKY AT THE POLLING STATIONS, NOW OR ON NOVEMBER 6TH!!
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    Denice Wrote: Dear Cartel, Michaels and Mals, I am sorry for taking so long to respond to you questions. Yesterday was our Canadian Thanksgiving so we were busy.

    First of all I want to make clear that I did not come on the forum to Mormon bash.......I just wanted to show the similarity between what we experienced living in a Mormon community with all their continual lies and the continual lies of Mitt Romney. When my husband and I sit and watch TV and Mitt comes on with his outrageous lies we look at one another and say "look familiar?"

    No, we did not live in a community where this was a break away group like the FLDS in Bountiful, B.C. this was mainstream LDS!! Now to be fair my husband golfed with some Mormon gentleman OUTSIDE of the area and they said that they had heard the village we lived in was known for being a little odd and off base at times.

    We are not former members of the Mormon church so this is not "sour grapes" because we were excommunicated or whatever. This is just an honest report of what happened to us and other non Mormon residents of this particular village. We had never experienced such lying until Mitt Romney reared his ugly head.

    Our concern is that Mitt Romney will lie his way right into the White House and in the not too distant future the USA will be at war AGAIN with a middle east country. Surely the American people must be war weary by now. Mr. Romney says he wants to lower the deficit but then wants to pour an enormous amount of money into the defense program, adding I believe 15 more naval carriers in the region along with 2 more subs, do I have this correct?

    This mornings polls depressed me, but then I remembered that we had an election in our Province a year ago and the opposition was ahead in the polls right up to election night, and then on election night the party we were cheering for WON with a majority!! So you never know, I must say that 1-2 weeks prior to the election the opposition had made some very damaging remarks about gays and other groups, so they showed their true colours and the people of Alberta replied accordingly.

    The big thing I see is THAT YOU MUST ALL GET OUT AND VOTE AND NOT ALLOW ANY HANKY PANKY AT THE POLLING STATIONS, NOW OR ON NOVEMBER 6TH!!
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    Sorry about reposting your message. I don't know how that happened. Anyway, here's what we need to do or have done. The President needs to get with the crew from MSNBC so that they can "Prep" him for the next debates:

    Here is a note I faxed to the White House:

    Mr. President,



    YOU MUST BE INTELLECTUALLY PREPARED INSIDE OUT AND WELL BEYOND ROMNEYS' CAPACITY
    AND ALSO VERY RELENTLESSLY AGGRESSIVE AND HIGHLY FOCUSED

    MAKE SURE YOU CONSUME A MULTI-VITAMIN, SEVERAL GINKO BILOBA, FISH OIL, CO-Q10 WEEKS BEFORE THE NEXT DEBATE AND DRINK SOME REGULAR COFFEE THE MORNING PRIOR
    TO THE DEBATE EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO BE THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IN A DEBATE TO HAVE A FULL BLADDER DURING THE DEBATE!!!!!

    USE ALL THE WEAPONS YOU CAN:

    THIS WILL INCLUDE:

    * The 47% comments
    * Bain Capital
    * The Republican War on Women
    * The Republican War on
    Science
    * The Republican War on Education now extending into the realm of educational TV for children
    *Mitt Romneys' Hypocrisy on China
    *Mitt Romneys' pretense of knowing anything about foreign policy and then making bumbling errors abroad and insulting several cultures in one day.
    *Mitt Romneys' lies about you and the economy especially his hypocrisy about the Auto Industry.
    and many more>

    Mr President, There are some people that you need to get with immediately and arrange to have them help you prepare for the remaining debates.

    These are the crew of MSNBC.

    You need to have face to face conversations with

    Chris Matthews
    Ed Schultz
    Rachel Maddow
    Lawrence O' Donnell
    Rev. Al Sharpton
    Ezra Klein
    Chris Hayes
    Alex Wagner
    EJ Dionne
    Joy Reid
    Bob Shrum

    You should go one at a time with each of these individuals, spend a day with each of them and let them be like drill sergeants training you.

    Mr. President,
    Your campaign advisors have done you a dis-service in the first debate> try it my way.

    You don't have to hold back, maintain a "dignified" stance etc., Your Likeability rating is stable and high. You don't have to worry about avoiding playing the "angry black man". If you have to, be that! Be the scholarly super-intellectual President Obama we expect you to be who in a court-room could slice someone apart and you need to (in a figurative sense of course,) slice Mitt Romney apart. Eviscerate him.

    I cannot afford for you to lose. If Romney somehow squeaks by and wins. It will be a disaster for the economy, the middle class and the Earths' ecosystems. It will also be a disaster for peace between Israel and The Palestinians. Romney seeks to start wars with Iran, Syria, and #1 Russia!
    It would be such a terrible mess that the world might not make it to 2016.

    Under a strong recovering bustling Obama economy, accelerated by a massive infusion of capital into green technology and clean energy, I can get a job, start my businesses (I have several ideas for both for-profits and non-profits) and go back to school (do my remedial preveterinary preparation and then get into a school of veterinary medicine). I would also be able to help my Mother avoid foreclosure and have medicare, medicaid and SSI not be messed with so that my sister can still receive her disability. I am currently caretaking for these 2 household members who each have a pile of medical issues.

    BARACK OBAMA YOU MUST GET IN TOUCH WITH MSNBC IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!

    Another reason for this, is that Rachel Maddow (who is an excellent political scientist) has catalogued and done whole shows or at least one show devoted to identifying the lies told by Mitt Romney although since then the amount of lies has increased, of course. She has compiled a list of several of them.


    You must also instruct Joe Biden to attack not only the poor mathematics behind Ryans” plan, the fact that Ryan would gut Medicare, and the fact that it is mathematically impossible to do everything Romney and Ryan want to do and still balance the budget. What about Romney and Ryans’ refusal to tell the electorate what they need to know and to tell the media what the media asks them on behalf of the electorate. (Refusal to discuss details and specifics of anything they are asked about) Have Joe Biden also get real familiar with Ayn Rand and make the points that while Ayn Rands’ ideas do not make sense to any scholar worth their salt on closer inspection, Ryan is also no Ayn Rand.

    BARACK OBAMA! MSNBC HAS ALL THE INTELLECTUAL AMMUNITION YOU NEED FOR YOU AND JOE TO WIN THESE DEBATES.

    It annoys me and plagues me that the media keeps telling people that you lost the debate. How can you lose a debate when the opposition is lying and when the beliefs espoused by the opposition make no logical sense?





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