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What is ALEC

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  • Center Left
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    Portland, OR
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    ALEC (American Legislative Exchange Council) is a front group that is supported by many major corporations and conservative special interest groups. It is used to influence state politicians, a vast majority Republicans. They provide "model" bills that are created by ALEC and then proposed by member politicians. It is often used to circumvent the lobbyist laws of many states. Politicians are given perks such as lavish affairs. Some member legislators even use state funds to attend ALEC meetings (Corruption, your tax dollars at work!). ALEC also dodged taxes by listing themselves as a nonprofit organization. 

    I learned about this organization this morning on Bill Moyers and Company. This link has detailed information on how ALEC works: http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/ALEC_Exposed
  • Independent
    Angola, IN
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    Quite disgusting, yes.  Many of our Politicians are so heavy into corruption and bribes that it is no wonder our country is in such a state.  I think they should employ our Senators, Congressmen/women, just like everyone else.  If they are NOT doing their jobs and NOT being honest and held up to the "OPEN DOOR POLICIES" then they should be FIRED.  Like Clint Eastwood said, "if they aren't doing the job, they should let them go".  Their wage would be according to their positions, and they would also adhere to the same laws they are passing for the general Public.  Social Security would not be separate from the "Public people" and neither would their healthcare be any different than ours. 
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    good statement redheadn34, I fully agree!
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    I think we all agree with the redheadn34 and just about all Americans would agree.  The reality is that it is not going to happen.  Who are the politicians going to take care of?  Themselves or us?  We vote out some of the bad ones and they are replaced with more bad ones.  Even the good people who are elected are swallowed up by the corrupt system.  Anyone have the asnwer to fixing it?  A start would be term limits.  If term limits are ok for the president, then they should be good for Congress too.  The longer they are in office the more corrupt they become by all the bribes and payoffs and the more they forget the people they are supposed to serve.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    good idea, term limits for Congress WOULD be one fantastic start.
  • Independent
    Plymouth, WI
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    jamesn Wrote: I think we all agree with the redheadn34 and just about all Americans would agree.  The reality is that it is not going to happen.  Who are the politicians going to take care of?  Themselves or us?  We vote out some of the bad ones and they are replaced with more bad ones.  Even the good people who are elected are swallowed up by the corrupt system.  Anyone have the asnwer to fixing it?  A start would be term limits.  If term limits are ok for the president, then they should be good for Congress too.  The longer they are in office the more corrupt they become by all the bribes and payoffs and the more they forget the people they are supposed to serve.

    Yes I have a great way to fix and stop the money system that controls all our politicians, but it is going to take more money than I have right now, I am working on that problem.  The problem is, if I tell all my plan before it is in place, the money system will be able to stop my plans, be patient and we will have a solution soon, Mark my words. 

     


  • Center Left Democrat
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    A new report provides more detail on the extent that ALEC has infiltrated the Arizona legislature. If you dug a little deeper, you'd likely find that the same situation exists in your state as well:


    http://www.prwatch.org/news/2013/04/12045/new-report-exposes-extreme-alec-agenda-arizona
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    unitedmajority Wrote:
    jamesn Wrote: I think we all agree with the redheadn34 and just about all Americans would agree. The reality is that it is not going to happen. Who are the politicians going to take care of? Themselves or us? We vote out some of the bad ones and they are replaced with more bad ones. Even the good people who are elected are swallowed up by the corrupt system. Anyone have the asnwer to fixing it? A start would be term limits. If term limits are ok for the president, then they should be good for Congress too. The longer they are in office the more corrupt they become by all the bribes and payoffs and the more they forget the people they are supposed to serve.

    Yes I have a great way to fix and stop the money system that controls all our politicians, but it is going to take more money than I have right now, I am working on that problem. The problem is, if I tell all my plan before it is in place, the money system will be able to stop my plans, be patient and we will have a solution soon, Mark my words.
    I do not want to be negative, but the embedded system is here to stay. Money talks and the damage has already been done; the debt will only increase because of the war industry lobby etc. just look at gun control; what they are doing is a total joke it gets watered down so much that it has no effect whatsoever; right now no legislation is done other than weak by both parties accepted "wording"; in the meantime the corruption wins on all sides.
    Sorry to say we are way too deep in this mess; only very drastic measures can change the tidal wave. (maybe it is already a tsunami)


  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Bill Moyers has been been a single voice that has exposed how ALEC has influenced much of the pro-corporate legislation that has been enacted by states including the Stand Your Ground Law. I wish more of the mainstream media would pick up on it, but hey, they're corporate too.. Here is an extract from Bill Moyer's latest revealing how the fossil energy companies are undermining renewable energy efforts.

    Bill Moyers Today, May 30, 2013: ALEC Update

    "ALEC’s anti-renewable rancor has had a powerful effect. This year, several states have considered corporate-friendly efforts to reduce or repeal renewable energy targets. And more often than not, the sponsors of these bills turn out to be verifiable members of ALEC. (Which isn’t to discount the unverifiable ones. ALEC’s legislators tend to keep their membership hush-hush, and ALEC discloses no membership lists.) But the keyword to keep in mind here isn’t “energy,” or “renewable,” or even “law” — it’s “profits,” the real driver behind ALEC’s legislative agendas. With corporations like Exxon Mobil, Chevron, the American Electric Power Company and Marathon Oil schmoozing lawmakers at ALEC conferences, it’s no wonder these anti-renewable energy bills have become a staple of the ALEC agenda."

    He also covers education and how ALEC is behind Tennessee's ALEC-inspired bill allowing taxpayer money to be spent on for-profit education. Read more about that in Bill Moyers article above.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Portland, OR
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    jamesn Wrote: I think we all agree with the redheadn34 and just about all Americans would agree. The reality is that it is not going to happen. Who are the politicians going to take care of? Themselves or us? We vote out some of the bad ones and they are replaced with more bad ones. Even the good people who are elected are swallowed up by the corrupt system. Anyone have the asnwer to fixing it? A start would be term limits. If term limits are ok for the president, then they should be good for Congress too. The longer they are in office the more corrupt they become by all the bribes and payoffs and the more they forget the people they are supposed to serve.
    I'm a firm believer in term limits, but my worry is that it would just exacerbate the problem we already have. Unless we have a federal law that forbids forbids all former senators and congressmen from taking positions at the banking firms, health care firms, etc. that they had jurisdiction over while in congress, then term limits would be a moot point. Until money gets out of politics (wishful thinking, I know), then term limits are just a band aid to a much bigger problem that we're seeing.
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    Not really. PAC's here said term limits would make the corruption process more burdensome. Well, they said "effective lobbying" but you get the drift.
  • Other Party
    Nebraska
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    jared I think we agree that pigs will fly before money is out of US politics. It will never happen.

    And Gems, PACS, lobbyists, politicians, are all swimming in a sea of dirty money. That's politics American style.

    America has the best politicians money can buy.
  • Independent
    New Hampshire
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    jamesn Wrote: jared I think we agree that pigs will fly before money is out of US politics. It will never happen.

    And Gems, PACS, lobbyists, politicians, are all swimming in a sea of dirty money. That's politics American style.

    America has the best politicians money can buy.
    We have the best politicians money can buy? Not even close. When you have countries that the political leaders consider AID to be their own income. A great percentage of the world is so bad that they would come here live with 10 workers per room planning to send money home to their families only to find out that the rates for that service in the underground is extremely high.
    Consider living down stream from DuPont or one of the other companies that like to open in 3rd world nations, in a small village that relies on the stream for water and fish. Pick most African or Asian nations. The bottom few percent are considered wealth by a lot of the world.
  • Other Party
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    jperry our politicians are definitely the best money can buy, the skill set requirement here is just different here from most countries. Our politicians pretend to be one of us, and tell us how much they care about us, and how they share our values, and how they feel our pain, and in other countries they do not even pretend...they just dictate. Not in all countries, of course, but many do. Our politicians are the smoothest, the slickest, the most deceptive, the best liars. In some countries they do not even PRETEND to lie about their policies and positions as they do here. They just dictate, sometimes for life. Our politicans do have to be reelected, you know.

    Many people in other countries do not even know what AID is, much less know where it goes. They are too busy worrying about where their next meal is coming from. Our population, as misinformed as it is, and uninformed as it is, is much more informed than in many other countries.

    Yes we have the best politicians that money can buy and it's not even close.
  • Democrat
    Portsmouth, VA
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    Yes, we have the best gov't in the world but is that a reason to not try to stem the tide of corruption? Now that it takes MIILIONS to launch a campaign it is obvious that those with the most money can make sure their canidate wins. Anyone remember that Lincoln came from absolute povety ( he also didn't have a Harvard degree). With the corporate greed, bank fraud, stock market tricks, we are facing an uphill battle. However I think if we can really start speaking out in a MEANINGFUL maner we can at least start to change what is happening.

    Term limits is a good example. THe longer politicians hold office the better protection they have. They talked a lot about "ENTITLEMENTS" in this last election but refuse to cut any of THEIR ENTITLEMENTS!!! They have the best health care, the best retirement, and the biggest "spending allowance" above their salary than any citizen including those who risk their lives for THEM.

    When CEOs earn hundreds of millions of dollars while employees earn poverty wages we have become a completly corrupt society. Many have become discouraged and have given up trying to fight but we need to fight even harder now. We need somone with the ability to arrange a MARCH ON CONGRESS AND THE SENATE. They are ignoring the thousands of emails, phone calls etc. that have been sent. We also need to get the media to be bold enough to state the REALITY of the situation. We must keep informed and make sure that we look at several different sources for our information because even the media can be bought and sometimes be fanatical. We can not blindly believe the first thing we read or watch on TV.

    For the sake of our country's future we have to keep fighting the greed and corruption or we have no right to complain. We must also expose greed and corruption whenever we can. Mitt Romney is attempting to fool everyone with a big, EXPENSIVE gathering this week. He is trying to pretend he didn't really say what he said in his campaign. Remember he thinks that 97% of our citizens are just slakers. When employess of big corporations make povery wages it cost us more money for the entitlements he so viciously attacked. How would he feel if he could not provide food, clothing and a home for HIS family? They want to keep the poor poor so that his kind can bathe in money, and power.