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    He doesn't want people to find out who and what he really is - that's why!
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    This really explains that legally he pays what he owes but morally he is a  bankrupt crook.

    Romney: “I pay all the taxes that are legally required, not a dollar more.”

    by on September 12, 2012 · 4 comments

    in Government, Politics
    What Mitt fails to say is that most of the money he makes is funneled through offshore shell corporations in no tax jurisdictions so that no taxes are legally required at all. We have written before about how easy it is to set up an offshore shell corporaration linked to a bank account in the Cayman Islands, the Seychelles, Bermuda or a whole slew of other no tax jurisdictions. When money is made by a shell corporation in these places no taxes are legally required

    So Mitt Romney is in the position of deciding where he wants to make his money. Hmmm, should I make it in a no tax jurisdiction or should I make it in the US where I will have to pay taxes on it albeit at the minimal 15% “carried interest” loophole rate?

    Mitt Romney has probably chosen to divert some of his profit making to the US for the tax year 2010 anyway, the tax year for which he has released his tax returns. That way he can say, well, look, I paid my taxes; here’s my return for all to see. But even in his 2010 return some items are redacted – those items having to do with foreign investments.

    Private equity, which is the business Romney was in with Bain Capital, specializes in avoiding US taxes. But since Romney was planning on running for President, he had to show that he had paid some taxes at least in the one year that he was planning to release his tax returns.
    Although Romney left Bain Capital in 1999, he has continued to make large amounts of money from it. In June 2012 he revealed more than $2 million in new Bain income. The firm today has at least 138 funds organized in the Cayman Islands, and Romney himself has personal interests in at least 12, worth as much as $30 million.

    And as I pointed out in the previous article, there is absolute confidentiality about these dealings. Not even the US government can find out the workings of firms in these no tax jurisdictions. In fact there is a law in the Cayman Islands that a person can be jailed for up to four years just for inquiring about such accounts!

    Another technique Romney used to avoid taxes was to invest in so-called “blocker corporations” in theCayman Islands. These are used by pension funds and foundations to avoid the Unrelated Business Income Tax. By investing in the blocker they are investing in a shell corporation in a no tax jurisdiction. The blocker can then go ahead and invest in a US corporation and the profits from that corporation are not taxable whereas, if they had invested directly in the US business, the profits would be taxable.

    Romney has used this device for his and Ann Romney’s IRAs and trust funds as well. Again Romney the successful businessman has done everything that was “legally required” in paying his taxes which turns out to be nothing.

    But let’s not forget how Romney and Bain Capital made their money in the first place. Bain was a leveraged buyout firm which had been renamed “private equity” in order to make it sound more palatable. Bain bought companies with borrowed money (the leverage). The subsequent debt was not a debt of Bain Capital’s; it was a debt of the company they just bought.

    It’s as if you borrowed money to buy a house, but then obligated your uncle to pay off that debt or had a co-signer who was solely responsible for the debt. Yet you, not he, owned the house. Than as soon as Bain owned the company, they had the company borrow even more money so they could pay Romney a multi-million dollar dividend.

    That’s like, if you borrowed more money based on the house you just bought, you walked away with the money and your uncle was responsible for even more debt! With the companies Bain bought bogged down by debt, many of them had trouble making the monthly payments and went bankrupt.

    Romney makes a big deal about Staples, a company Bain invested in but never fully owned, being a successful company. It was successful primarily because Bain wasn’t in the position of loading it up with debt. They invested as a venture capitalist not as a leveraged buyout firm which means they put money in and later sold their shares when Staples became successful. They never were in a position to do a leveraged buyout because they never owned the company, and that’s probably why Staples was successful.

    Typical of Romney’s and Bain’s exploits was the American Pad and Paper (Ampad) fiasco. Bain bought Ampad in 1992 from Mead Corp. for $56 million. In 1994 Ampad acquired Smith Corona’s Marion, Indiana operation. They then dissolved the union that represented the Marion employees and laid off 320 workers. They hired some back at lower wages and reduced benefits.

    In 1995 Bain closed the Marion plant. However, Ampad continued to lose money, but it did take out a $75 million loan to pay Bain a dividend. Bain had put down $5 million in cash to buy Ampad, and made roughly twenty times that in return. Ampad went bankrupt in 2000.

    Why would a bank loan all this money to a company that was a sinking ship in order for that company to pay Bain huge dividends? For the same reason that banks loaned money to sub-prime mortgage borrowers. They made huge transaction fees, and then they sold off the loans to other investors. That means they took very little risk. The questionable loan was sloughed off to somebody else. There was not a lot of downside. Everything went well until the game of musical chairs stopped and someone else was left holding the bag.

    After Bain bankrupted numerous companies including Stage Stores (2000), GS Technologies (2001), Dade Behring (2002), Details (2003) and KB Toys (2004), they were in a position to play with their profits, funnel them through offshore corporations in no tax jurisdictions, use blocker corporations and play games to avoid taxes, which is what Romney is still doing today. He is no longer in the business of bankrupting companies and causing workers to lose their jobs. He is still in the business of profiting from Bain deals and avoiding tax consequences.

    The “absolute confidentiality” of the Cayman Islands along with transfering money to Ann Romney’s trust and using “blind trusts – all these techniques represent subterfuges with which they can play the game of making even more money. Is it any wonder that the Romneys don’t want to release any more of their tax returns?

    Sure, Mitt Romney has paid all the taxes that were “legally required.” The problem is that in the Cayman Islands where most of his money is, no taxes are or ever were legally required.

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    Someone needs to send this thread to the Mormons, but then again, maybe all the rich mormons are this corrupt!

    Romney knows what he does is not good for the majority, only good for a few.  I would say for a fact, Romney prays there is no God, for he knows he isn't going up at the end, he is going down, just like America will when the college makes him our leader to the bottom.
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    Mona Wrote: who cares its his money.  Quit worrying about his money, and start worrying about your money that Obozo is spending......enough said.

    No, you know who's getting a free ride off my, and everyone else...Mitt Rmoney and others like him that don't pay their fair share.
    Mitt Rmoney and others like him who love to tout about how this country gave them all the opportunity to become filthy rich and successful
    but cry like babies when there is any talk about letting their huge tax breaks expire. Rmoney and others like him like to use the opportunities
    this country provides and then turns around and sucks the country dry with their shady Wall Street dealings and their tax free off shore accounts.
    Rmoney and others like him are the true 'welfare queens' and blood suckers of our society.  They destroyed our economy and you think that is
    something we shouldn't worry about? You are a fool!
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    Cracam Wrote: If you think that Romney, a smart business guy would not cover all his bases before even throwing his name into the presidental fray, then you underestimate not only his business savvy, but also his intelligence and moral convictions.