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    Flame,
    Pot is a plant. In the religious world, who made the pot plant? EH? Who made the Poppy, the dumpling cactus, the mold that grows on rye? God must like a good buzz to have made those plants and mold. As for materialism. You posted on a computer so you are one of us. And good folks way back when were clever in not stating who God was. And it was the K of C that added the refernces to god but they too failed to say what God.
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    The Pot plants and the Poppy Seeds have been around forever. But when growing wild, used only occasionally for tribal ceremonies, they were harmless. ONLY IN the MODERN ERA where pot and Poppy seeds are grown as a Commercial Crop, to be ILLEGALLY SOLD, at huge profit to dope dealers, do they become a problem. The side effects from these drugs are
    sometimes enhanced with other substances, (some of them are toxic), & can make users seem psychotic. Old "pot" by itself just makes a person "mellow."
    Since they are still "illegal" the industry survives by bribery, payola, & enforced secrecy. If they were simply made LEGAL, all the crooks would be instantly out of business. They could clean out all the jails, & release those only convicted of use or possession of a small amount of "harmless" drugs. Less cost for running the prison system, and less time of the cops spent chasing guys who have not really committed a major "crime" --- but only bought a few ounces of weed, would leave the cops free to investigate REAL CRIMES.
    It seems there is a Good Case for LEGALIZATION of marijuana --- I never thought I would be saying that, but maybe the TIME HAS COME.
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    WovenGems Wrote: The universe has no need for any Gods but mankind does. Even this lone planet has no need for one. Life was here before we were and life will be here after we are gone. It seems the need for God is based on a desire to be above all life on this planet. We created God to satisfy our egos. We are slowly moving out of the age of religions.



     What the universe needs and doesn’t need really is impossible for any man to say, since no man has a clue to what the universe is really all about.  You cannot say the universe does not need God, no man can say this and tell the truth, don’t pretend you can.  Of course religion needs God, but man does not need religion to believe in God. 

    Hey I understand now a days, it is cool to be bad, not good to be good.  Even the G.I. Joe commercial will tell you it’s not cool to be good. I guess if life really was as simple as good and bad, bad would be kicking some butt, if you believed in God that is, if you don’t believe in God, then bad is the in thing to be now a days.  It says good and bad will do battle in the end, I sometimes wonder if that battle hasn’t already started. 

    Without religion telling me, it is clear what is good and why it is good.  When you roll a snow ball of evil, chances are, it will roll you over one day.   


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    unitedmajority Wrote:
    WovenGems Wrote: The universe has no need for any Gods but mankind does. Even this lone planet has no need for one. Life was here before we were and life will be here after we are gone. It seems the need for God is based on a desire to be above all life on this planet. We created God to satisfy our egos. We are slowly moving out of the age of religions.



     What the universe needs and doesn’t need really is impossible for any man to say, since no man has a clue to what the universe is really all about.  You cannot say the universe does not need God, no man can say this and tell the truth, don’t pretend you can.  Of course religion needs God, but man does not need religion to believe in God. 

    Hey I understand now a days, it is cool to be bad, not good to be good.  Even the G.I. Joe commercial will tell you it’s not cool to be good. I guess if life really was as simple as good and bad, bad would be kicking some butt, if you believed in God that is, if you don’t believe in God, then bad is the in thing to be now a days.  It says good and bad will do battle in the end, I sometimes wonder if that battle hasn’t already started. 

    Without religion telling me, it is clear what is good and why it is good.  When you roll a snow ball of evil, chances are, it will roll you over one day.   




    Spoken like a preacher, not a scientist. 
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    I believe God existed prior to the "big bang."

    I believe God is the primordial vibration, the eternal, omnipresent, unspeakable "Word" that was in the beginning that was with God and was God, the Supreme Consciousness, the Divine Light Energy-Source of our existence, the Essence of all life and form, and our Great Spirit-Parent.

    As Moses wrote, God is not a man, nor a son of man. And as Isaiah wrote, servants of God do God's will, and besides God there is no Savior. (That's something most Christians misunderstand or ignore.)

    Long before Moses the authors of the Sanskrit Hindu scriptures wrote of God, and called it Brahman. And so it has gone, as religions came into existence.

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    I'll start believin' when Mittens and Ryan give their concession speeches 😏
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    eternal flame Wrote: WHAT IF on the Judgment Day, the Person that will JUDGE US, is the ONE WHO KNOWS YOU THE VERY BEST?  You walk into the Judge's Chamber to FACE THE MUSIC --- and after stating your case -- SEE that you are looking into a MIRROR. On Judgment Day ---  Your Soul will be JUDGED ----- BY the one person you cannot Deceive --- YOURSELF.



    I think you are approaching a profound truth. However, we apparently have a different idea of "Judgment Day."

    In one sense, as scriptures say, the world's leaders will face the prophesied, promised Judgment, and that day is coming.

    That, however, does not speak of the individual, personal judgment we all must face when we come face to face with our self.

    I think that when one transcends the bounds of Ego (whether after our body dies or while we are still alive but go through a process of spiritual "rebirth"), we realize who we are, and we face who and what we have been. We cannot pretend, or deceive our selves. There is no Ego to defend or justify itself. There is just our Consciousness realizing the totality of itself.

    So in that sense, perhaps, we do serve as our own judge. But not unless and not until the Ego "dies" or is transcended.

    Just my two cents worth.
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    Thanks

    So many great comments here in the defense of creation, something science relentlessly tries to disprove with facts of evolution like the big bang.  Yet with all their so called facts, scientist can’t say God wasn’t also created in the big bang nor can they prove God himself didn’t set the bang off. 

    I am truly amazed at how long mankind has been searching for answers they will never find, undisputable proof of either evolution or creation.  Even the reality shows some watch are about just that, proving God, ghost, UFO’s, big bang, etc.  None of these will ever have 100 percent proof, for that very good reason; “If we could see heaven we’d all want to go, leaving God nothing to judge our soul.” 

    I think the harder we search for proof of our being on earth, is in its self a great judge of soul.  A meme for sure would want proof. So would someone who knows they will be better off when they die if there is no God, but you never know, maybe they will find "personal" 100 percent proof of God, and change their ways?  Sure wish the ones leading us would want to do good, God's work.   
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    unitedmajority Wrote: Thanks

    So many great comments here in the defense of creation, something science relentlessly tries to disprove with facts of evolution like the big bang.  Yet with all their so called facts, scientist can’t say God wasn’t also created in the big bang nor can they prove God himself didn’t set the bang off. 

    I am truly amazed at how long mankind has been searching for answers they will never find, undisputable proof of either evolution or creation.  Even the reality shows some watch are about just that, proving God, ghost, UFO’s, big bang, etc.  None of these will ever have 100 percent proof, for that very good reason; “If we could see heaven we’d all want to go, leaving God nothing to judge our soul.” 

    I think the harder we search for proof of our being on earth, is in its self a great judge of soul.  A meme for sure would want proof. So would someone who knows they will be better off when they die if there is no God, but you never know, maybe they will find "personal" 100 percent proof of God, and change their ways?  Sure wish the ones leading us would want to do good, God's work.   


    God didn't put us on Earth. We are as much a product of the Earth as are the rest of our family, the mammals. 
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    WovenGems Wrote:
    unitedmajority Wrote: Thanks

    So many great comments here in the defense of creation, something science relentlessly tries to disprove with facts of evolution like the big bang.  Yet with all their so called facts, scientist can’t say God wasn’t also created in the big bang nor can they prove God himself didn’t set the bang off. 

    I am truly amazed at how long mankind has been searching for answers they will never find, undisputable proof of either evolution or creation.  Even the reality shows some watch are about just that, proving God, ghost, UFO’s, big bang, etc.  None of these will ever have 100 percent proof, for that very good reason; “If we could see heaven we’d all want to go, leaving God nothing to judge our soul.” 

    I think the harder we search for proof of our being on earth, is in its self a great judge of soul.  A meme for sure would want proof. So would someone who knows they will be better off when they die if there is no God, but you never know, maybe they will find "personal" 100 percent proof of God, and change their ways?  Sure wish the ones leading us would want to do good, God's work.   


    God didn't put us on Earth. We are as much a product of the Earth as are the rest of our family, the mammals. 
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    You have as much proof to your statement as does science have proof of the big bang, and you know this I know.  So please don't insult mine or your intelligence with such a statement.  Sure you have science theories to back up your words, but they are just that a theory, not undisputable evidence, as your statement implies. 

     

    If you would like, I could tell you a few true stories that gave me personal 100 percent proof that God is real, but can you give me 100 percent personal proof that your belief is the truth and nothing but the truth?  I didn't think so.  No, my personal proof is something that is not proof for anyone else but me, sadly for the rest who never have such knowledge.  I feel extremely privileged to have personal 100 percent proof of God; I just wish the ones who control our future did too.  If our leaders did good God’s work instead of being owned by big money, our world would be a far different and cleaner place, using solar from the heavens instead of oil hells septic.  

     

     

     

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    In science a theory is a folder for holding evidense. In literature a theory is an unsupported idea. And I do agree that the evolution theory folder and physics theory folder are so fat they each get their own file cabinet, that you got right.

    Now you know what a theory is, so please use the word correctly.
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    WovenGems Wrote: In science a theory is a folder for holding evidense. In literature a theory is an unsupported idea. And I do agree that the evolution theory folder and physics theory folder are so fat they each get their own file cabinet, that you got right.

    Now you know what a theory is, so please use the word correctly.


    I agree that all the proof of God by man is only a theory, and not 100 percent proof of God.  Of course this is the truth, God never wanted man to have 100 percent undisputed proof.  If we did, well, you know my "theory" on that:   "If we could see heaven we'd all want to go, leaving God nothing to judge our soul." 

    Hey, I cannot tell anyone what is for sure the truth and what man has made up about God, I can only tell you what I learned from my life, which is in fact proof for me, and the only theory I could ever truly believe. 
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    I feel so priveledged that God has shown himself in my life.   Wow,  I do feel for those of you who want to believe but have no real proff.   Millions believe by faith.   Millions believe because they have personal proof..    I laughed in the 9th grade when they said we came from the neanderthal.  I remember saying, in time they will change science to prove this too is a lie.   So 40 years later they now say, impossible.   No DNA.   Give God and man time and proof will be exposed.   It is just sad that millions have died and will die not understanding his existence while in time Science will prove his power.  

    P.S.   Governor Jennifer Granholm said something to the fact of God and the Issac in Tampa.    I agree.
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    Bryant-Phillips Wrote: I feel so priveledged that God has shown himself in my life.   Wow,  I do feel for those of you who want to believe but have no real proff.   Millions believe by faith.   Millions believe because they have personal proof..    I laughed in the 9th grade when they said we came from the neanderthal.  I remember saying, in time they will change science to prove this too is a lie.   So 40 years later they now say, impossible.   No DNA.   Give God and man time and proof will be exposed.   It is just sad that millions have died and will die not understanding his existence while in time Science will prove his power.  

    P.S.   Governor Jennifer Granholm said something to the fact of God and the Issac in Tampa.    I agree.


    There ain't no such thing as magic. So science can't prove what you want. 
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    Bryant-Phillips Wrote: I feel so priveledged that God has shown himself in my life.   Wow,  I do feel for those of you who want to believe but have no real proff.   Millions believe by faith.   Millions believe because they have personal proof..    I laughed in the 9th grade when they said we came from the neanderthal.  I remember saying, in time they will change science to prove this too is a lie.   So 40 years later they now say, impossible.   No DNA.   Give God and man time and proof will be exposed.   It is just sad that millions have died and will die not understanding his existence while in time Science will prove his power.  

    P.S.   Governor Jennifer Granholm said something to the fact of God and the Issac in Tampa.    I agree.


    For sure anyone who knows God, is by far luckier than the ones who thinks God is as fake as magic.  As far as what you say about faith, you are correct, it is true, millions do find God through faith.  For many, what a certain religion claims about God is all they know about God. I feel sad for these people too, religion has given me many droughts about God, thanks to their preaching s to take money to prove your faith.  But if someone can be part of a religion and find God, I guess this is better than not believing in God, even though in most cases, it will cost you for your church given God education.  

    When schools teach evolution, for sure they should make it clear, what they are teaching is only a scientific explanation of who and what we are or where we came from.  Science is desperate to prove God is not real, yet with all the advancements in science, they come up short in every attempt to prove who we really are. I believe when the time comes that science proves God is in fact real, the test for man on earth will be over.  In a way I feel sorry for the ones who seek to prove or disprove God, it is a task that will never be full filled here on earth.  I my self know God is real and still with us on earth, the proof is still out there, acts of good all come from God.  .On the other hand, evil is an opposite force, maybe Bush had personal proof of the devil, and this is why he led us to war and oil destruction of earth?  As a matter of fact, maybe the entire Republican party has proof of the devil, it is clear, the republicans are all about evil, when it comes to good for the majority.