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kiss affirmative action goodbye?

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  • Democrat
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    Before SCOTA is a case which, if decided for the plaintiff, will end all affirmative action in the US. And with a conservative majority on SCOTA, affirmative action will likely end.

    http://www.alternet.org/education/156301/will_affirmative_action_disappear
  • Independent
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    And what's your opinion if "affirmative action will likely end."?

    You for it or against it?

    Is affirmative action a good thing or a bad thing in 2012?

    Some people say that affirmative action, like unions, have outlived their usefullness.

    What do YOU think?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    What affirmative action?

    Michael Kinsley,CNN, January 20, 2003: How affirmative action helped George W.

    If our President [Bush] had the slightest sense of irony, he might have paused to ask himself, "Wait a minute. How did I get into Yale?" It wasn't because of any academic achievement: his high school record was ordinary. It wasn't because of his life experience--prosperous family, fancy prep school--which was all too familiar at Yale. It wasn't his SAT scores: 566 verbal and 640 math.

    They may not have had an explicit point system at Yale in 1964, but Bush clearly got in because of affirmative action. Affirmative action for the son and grandson of alumni. Affirmative action for a member of a politically influential family. Affirmative action for a boy from a fancy prep school. These forms of affirmative action still go on.

    The Wall Street Journal reported last week that Harvard accepts 40% of applicants who are children of alumni but only 11% of applicants generally. And this kind of affirmative action makes the student body less diverse, not more so. George W. Bush, in fact, may be the most spectacular affirmative-action success story of all time.


    Then there's John McCain who graduated 894 out of 899 from the Naval Academy.  Not very stellar, but it helps if your daddy is an admiral in the Navy. His career post graduate was nothing to brag about either...except that he got shot down and was able to turn his captivity into a "hero status."

    BTW -- I support affirmative action for the disadvantaged...not the privileged like Bush. However, like other SCOTUS rulings that favor the rich upper class, I expect it might indeed go away...by a 5-4 vote.

  • Democrat
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    fenway Wrote: And what's your opinion if "affirmative action will likely end."?

    You for it or against it?

    Is affirmative action a good thing or a bad thing in 2012?

    Some people say that affirmative action, like unions, have outlived their usefullness.

    What do YOU think?


    I'd like to see it continue since the ills in our society it was meant to correct still persist. If we are a Christian society, why are so many of these "Christians" unwilling to follow the teachings of Jesus and put the poor and the wretched before us?

    It seems, however, as soon as helping the downtrodden means skin off our teeth, we balk
  • Independent
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    Why?  Greed.

    MONEY  MONEY  MONEY

    Money is a wonderful thing and a terrible thing.
  • Independent
    Ohio
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    Maybe we need affirmative action for old farts. Most large companies are searching high and low for qualified women and minorities. They want diversity. That search for diversity ends once you are over 50. If you are in that age range and searching for work YOU WILL BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. It's just a fact.Not every case but typically you will have no hope when the other choice is a 30 year old. If you are fat and/or ugly, same thing. Good luck finding work.
  • Democrat
    Meridian, MS
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    You sure speak the truth altair, after I lost my job in my 50s (58), I failed to get another, even for $8/hr. Thus I waited until I was 62 and started my S.S. It sure was a bummer, cuz I sent out hundreds of resumes and got zero responses.
  • Independent
    Ohio
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    With this whole social security debate. They fail to take into account that when they demand that older folks work longer, they cannot demand that people hire them. No job, no S.S. So what do they do? Starve?
  • Independent
    Dover, TN
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    I have felt the discrimination of Affirmative Action. I was turned down for a job that I had the highest placement scores for because of Affirmative Action. The employer was required to have a 17% minority work force, when at the time my county had less than a 2% minority population. Even Veterans Preferance Hiring was not able to negate the discrimination of Affirmative Action. If you are a young white male you are at a disadvantage before you ever open the door to a perspective employer.