Schmidt Wrote: Guy -- Excellent article. I hope others read it.The rhetoric of Robertson and the late Falwell has been so crazy that I cannot understand how anyone would contribute money to those hate mongers. And it scares me that Pat Robertson's Regent University and Jerry Falwell's Liberty University are engaged in political indoctrination of the students that attend these universities. Remember Regent University law school graduate, Monica Goodling, who at the age of 33 was responsible for the firing of highly qualified and experienced US attorneys that did not fit the Republican ideology?On the other hand, Rick Santorum accuses regular universities of being indoctrination mills: "I understand why Barack Obama wants to send every kid to college, because of their indoctrination mills, absolutely," he said. "The indoctrination that is going on at the university level is a harm to our country.”Yet isn't this precisely what Regent and Liberty Universities are doing? Indoctrinating. In Santorum's Christian worldview all universities except perhaps Regent and Liberty and others like Oral Roberts University are harmful to our country. Really crazy talk from someone who aspires to be President of the United States. In his worldview, the Monica Goodling's of this world are doing God's work, properly trained and indoctrinated for that role, of course, at Regent University.A Republican goal is to stack the offices of US Attorneys and judges with graduates from Liberty and Regent University or the like. We should be wary.
Cracam Wrote: Not sure how you think the Republicans are "stacking anything since they are not the Gov't. My point was your sounding like Christian universities are the "elite 1%" that are getting all the legal nominations. Do you not think the reverse would be true if it was a Democrat in a position to appoint jobs/positions?
DaveRHancock Wrote: Every religious affiliation's goal is to indoctrinate the pupil. Knowledge, itself, is the indoctrination of the student. To know only one 'truth', or side of it, is to limit society's ability to progress for the benefit of all. We are all, what; how 'bout Americans. Second, we are what; how 'bout Indivduals? Each of US has a different outlook, prospectus, abilities, and a whole lot of other differences. Yet, we call ourselves, Americans. Why Americans, and not some other name? Maybe, cause we remember, deep inside, that the American is Tolerant. That's the 'Bill of Rights' allowing each of US, to be what we aspire to be; the Idividual. Where Religion is, is based on our Individual Fears. If one is afraid of Hell, then one may create there on; Right here on earth. The Church and The State, intertwined form the Left Communist, and the Right Totalitarian. Only in the Middle, as spoused by Martin Luther, can Church be Seperated from the State. Where Morality, spoused by St. Augustine, and more recently, Madison, is the cornerstone for life in the State. Religion, Right or Left, Christian or Muslim, is an extraordinary means to compel the Individual to conform to the wishes of the group, the 'single minded' society, or 'the will' of the State, or all three.
Where every student has the ability to educate themself, before, during, and after college indoctrination, is to allow the progress of thought, for the increase of knowledge.
Let's not be afraid of where we are going; let's be cognisant of the path we are on.
WovenGems Wrote: Since a mind taugh taught rational thought will question the beliefs of a religion it only makes sense that the religious leaders would feel threatened by the public unversities, and PBS and NPR and The Muppets.... and strike out at them.
Guy Dwyer Wrote: WovenGems Wrote: Since a mind taugh taught rational thought will question the beliefs of a religion it only makes sense that the religious leaders would feel threatened by the public unversities, and PBS and NPR and The Muppets.... and strike out at them.
I don't think all religious leaders feel threatened by higher education, or by science. In fact, I think most religious leaders are fine with it.
Fundamentalist religious leaders, however, are definitely threatened by higher education and science -- especially fundamentalist Christians. And I think the reason why they are threatened and why they slander, attack, accuse, demonize and label "godless secular humanists" is because of a fundamentally flawed theology based on a literal and false interpretation of scriptures.
Fundamentalist biblical literalists misunderstand the true purpose of religion, which is why they simply ignore the Golden Rule, or the Universal Divine Imperative: Treat all others as you would want to be treated if you were them.
Fundamentalist religious leaders simply do not understand why critics and most people are against them, because most people are against "religious" bigotry and hypocrisy, and theocratic imposition, NOT against religion.