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Is the Republican Party beyond redemption?

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  • jamesn
    2014-01-19 01:13:27 PM
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    This is the problem:

    The people who would have to change the system are the same people who are in charge of the system, and since they use the system to take care of themselves first and foremost, they aren't about to change the system.

    Term limits are the most logical step but that would mean changing the system.

    We are screwed. I have heard that now more than half the members of Congress are millionaires.

    Q What do they have in common with the Average American citizen?

    A Nothing!
  • Mike Eproht
    2014-10-29 01:44:49 AM
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    I see racism is alive and well. I've never been mugged even though I've traveled in the "wrong" part of town a lot. I thought you" racists "were tough. Sounds like you're cowering like little children. Why can't we drop the stereotypes and do, and think, what is right? We won't suddenly become mindless because we're not racist or bigots. On the contrary, we will actually do more thinking, to evaluate each individual regardless of race or age or sex. I have actually had friends who were Black, Hispanic, or Asian that were better people and friends than some Whites I've known. Yes' evil exists in all races, but to change the world, we must start, one person at a time. I've found it's easier to start with me.
  • Say NO to Jeb
    2015-02-13 03:25:31 PM
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    Yes, it is. Next question, please. :D
  • hollysmom
    2015-02-16 10:32:54 PM
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    ha ha - I was thinking of posting that myself - Say NO

    I am against term limits - some people are very good at their job and having a constant strain of people in learning mode does not seem a good idea - how to keep congress people from all being millionaires = do not exempt them from insider trading laws - a good law suit can make the happen. I am not a lawyer, so have no idea, but I do believe it can happen. But far more importantly is get money out of politics - regular people can not afford to run. it cost a million for a congressional seat now, so you have to be rich, or have rich friends or become beholden to the rich to run

    oour goal should be to get money out of politics = so maybe we can figure out ways to do it.
  • Schmidt
    2015-02-17 12:00:40 AM
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    hollysmom -- Welcome to the Democratic Hub.

    You make a good point about term limits. I have often advocated for term limits as a solution to force out politicians that become corrupt by their tenure in office. But the the better way would be to tackle the source of the corruption...the systems and campaign finance laws that require our elected officials to be beholden to their donors. Getting money out of politics as you say. Figuring out how to do that when all our politicians benefit from it may be a bigger challenge than term limits.
  • hollysmom
    2015-02-17 12:10:21 AM
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    every one here seems so nice, I feel like I need to stop being so blunt. Thank you for the welcome.
  • pr
    2015-02-17 05:36:46 AM
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    There is nothing wrong with being blunt. Sometimes it's very necessary to say it like it is. Unfortunately, that is a big problem we Progressives tend to have - be nice and they will follow our lead. Unfortunately, it's not true!
  • Dutch
    2015-02-17 09:00:48 AM
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    pgr Wrote: There is nothing wrong with being blunt. Sometimes it's very necessary to say it like it is. Unfortunately, that is a big problem we Progressives tend to have - be nice and they will follow our lead. Unfortunately, it's not true!
    Holly, this is a discussion site; there are certain rules, but don't be scared to voice your opinion; I just say what I think. The reason for this site is to make America aware that a "herd" mentality can get us into trouble; ask Hitler.Therefore in my opinion we should strive to make this a "liveable" place for everyone; not just for the "rich" with good infrastructure, culture, education, freedom of speech and world knowledge (which is totally lacking here) The US is an "island"
  • Michael39301
    2015-02-17 02:09:04 PM
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    I thought this thread was about the Republican Party in general, but it seems to have deviated somewhat to a term-limits discussion. I certainly agree that term limits are a good thing, especially since the highest office has term limits. Since the majority of candidates for President come from Congress, why shouldn't these preceding offices be subject to term limits as well? Another source of candidates for President is from the position of state governor. In fact, 36 states have term limits for their governorships as well, but this is certainly not 100% of the states. In itself, this seems like it really needs to be corrected. What would/could be considered wrong in having the same term-limit rules for governor apply to each and every state in our country? What if one of these NON-term-limited governors was elected President, and then proceeded to have the term limits for President changed because he came from a state that had no term limits, and felt that was enough of a reason to make that stipulation apply to anyone elected President from one of those term-exempt governorship positions? I say Congress should be smart enough to anticipate this type of thing happening, and take the step (having ALL governorships term limited) necessary to avoid such a fiasco. If Congress would do their job, instead of ONLY trying to block anything and everything the Democratic Party might support, this would be a good thing for America.
  • Schmidt
    2015-02-17 04:13:23 PM
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    Michael -- Yes this thread started out as a discussion of the radicalization of the Republican Party...i.e. the Tea Party. One of the reasons that the Tea Party candidates are elected in the first place is that they come from "safe districts"...often gerrymandered. More moderate candidates in those districts are slowly pushed out because of the money that big money special interests pour into primaries to oppose them. This happens at the federal, state and local levels.

    Normally when we think of term limits, we think of so many of our elected officials that have occupied their offices for multiple terms and seem to be obstacles to progress. Mitch McConnell for example has held his office for 30 years, but there are also Democrats with long tenure as well. With regard to governorships, this is a state right issue. I don't think the federal government can mandate uniformity in governorship tenures. And as far as the President's two term limit is concerned, this is cast in stone by the 22nd Amendment. It will likely never change even if a majority in Congress wanted to change it.
  • Michael39301
    2015-02-17 05:25:08 PM
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    Schmidt---thanks for the information, I didn't realize or remember the President's term was set by an Amendment. I also don't believe that individual states should have the right to say OUR governor can stay in office perpetually, when maybe their next door neighbor state's governor has a 2 term limit. This is the UNITED States, so politically that suggests to me that anything political should be the same within the nation's boundaries. Elected officials are in the poltical arena by definition.
  • Michael39301
    2015-02-21 02:26:16 PM
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    And to top off all these Republican theatrics, ex-mayor Giuliani is now calling President Obama an anti-American. He says his life and politics were influenced by some rogue communist from his early childhood right up through today, and that the President definitely doesn’t love America. How does this EX-politician get on his high horse and expect Americans to even consider his poor choice of words, as well as his definite lack of respect for a fairly elected leader of our country?
  • Schmidt
    2015-02-21 04:33:19 PM
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    Oh yeah...Rudi 9/11 Guiliani, America's mayor, who's been capitalizing on his 9/11 "heroism"ever since. And now Mr 9/11 is on an anti-Obama tirade pandering to the Fox News worshippers. What next...another run at the Republican presidency?
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